Right Wing War Against LGBT's

[Vmarco]

Edited April 3, 2012 by Vmarco

[Protector]

[konchog uma]

I think the right wing is basically at war with anyone who isn't a white christian american male, or the women who subserviantly gestate and birth their babies (godpleaseletitbeaboy)

 

cept for the closeted ones! hahaaha

 

it is a shame.

 

the problem with the right wing is that people actually associate them with god and jesus and spiritual truth. HAHAHHAHAHA

[Vmarco]

I think the right wing is basically at war with anyone who isn't a white christian american male, or the women who subserviantly gestate and birth their babies (godpleaseletitbeaboy)

 

 

The American Tea Party themesong:

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

On the path of nature, i choose to accept what i am, the way i am, and make not effort to choose to express myself differently than what i am equipped to do so with.

 

 

 

If i were gay, i would be gay, but i would not try to stand out (flamboyant), if i were transgender, i would probably not be any different than i am now, except my wardrobe

 

It makes no difference what you are or how you feel, but what you do naturally and autonomously as opposed to forced change or efforts to express something.

 

 

If it takes an extra effort, it probably isnt terribly natural. Not to say it's wrong, but it shouldnt TAKE AN EFFORT to be gay or transgender if it comes to you naturally.

 

 

 

My 3 cents, cuz 2 wasnt fair.

[Vmarco]

 

If i were gay, i would be gay, but i would not try to stand out (flamboyant), if i were transgender, i would probably not be any different than i am now, except my wardrobe

 

 

My 3 cents, cuz 2 wasnt fair.

 

Transgender is not a Clothes Fetish. And I doubt that most flamboyant gays ever think to pretend to be non-flamboyant.

 

But hey,...no worries,...the majority of people don't have a clue as to the nature of LGBT's. Would be great however, if they could live as they are.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Well, okay, i cannot honestly say for sure one way or the other, but it strikes me as such a put-on, a deliberate and intentional effort to act a certain way. Flamboyance isnt necessarily an effort, but it does not strike me as being autonomous either.

 

 

In a perfect world, everyone could be who/whatever they naturally were/are without prejudice or resistence/enforced control.

 

 

Also, in a perfect world, i'd have silver-white hair at age 13 but not due to any health problems

[Vmarco]

 

In a perfect world, everyone could be who/whatever they naturally were/are without prejudice or resistence/enforced control.

 

 

Also, in a perfect world, i'd have silver-white hair at age 13 but not due to any health problems

 

Yes,...in my vision of a perfect world, "everyone could be who/whatever they naturally were/are without prejudice or resistence/enforced control," also.

 

Of course in a Christian or Muslem's perfect world, all LGBT's would be killed.

 

As for silver hair,...if you are implying wisdom, why would a wise person have grey hair? Why are we media-ted with such a belief?

 

Tilopa said,

"When serving a karmamudra, the pure awareness

of bliss and emptiness will arise:

Composed in a blessed union of insight and means,

Slowly send down, retain and draw back up the bodhichitta,

And conducting it to the source, saturate the entire body.

 

Then gaining long-life and eternal youth, waxing like the moon,

Radiant and clear, with the strength of a lion,

You will quickly gain mundane power and suprem enlightenment.

May this pith instruction in Mahamudra

Remain in the hearts of fortunate beings."

[joeblast]

I think the right wing is basically at war with anyone who isn't a white christian american male, or the women who subserviantly gestate and birth their babies (godpleaseletitbeaboy)

 

cept for the closeted ones! hahaaha

 

it is a shame.

 

the problem with the right wing is that people actually associate them with god and jesus and spiritual truth. HAHAHHAHAHA

LOL seriously!? the problem with an nonobjective media is that they get to make up whatever the hell they want to say and it echoes around the chamber until all nod and conclude it is factual. certainly your words do describe a very small subset of rather fundamentalist christians, but to extrapolate that to anyone who is not a committed leftist is...well, I'll be diplomatic and just say "quite incorrect."

 

pretty much everyone everywhere since the beginnings of the human race have defined marriage as between a man and a woman. relatively recently we have notions that all ideas are equal and the politically correct anti discrimination nazis are coming to make sure all and everything is equal and non discriminatory and in such verbiage so as there can be no way anyone can take offense...

 

I think if these PC nazis were making a constitution today, they would declare that offending someone would be punishable by law (Hey Ginsburg, would that be in your new constitution?? )

 

I have no problem giving the LGBT partner the full compliment of rights as per a traditional marriage, and in many places that's how it goes and its all good. What's the problem?

 

But I abhor changing the definitions of things to suit the times. All changing the definition of terms does is sow confusion. I mean, read the words on this page, cripes...

[Vmarco]

[ralis]

[Vmarco]

Frank Luntz the right wing Republican operative, propagandist and pollster, re-frames terms to fit the needs of the right wing. E.g. the "estate tax" is now the "death tax", "global warming" is re-framed to "climate change". Changing the term changes the meaning in weak minded fools that are easily manipulated.

 

Luntz, Limbaugh, Beck et al, all learned from the master propagandist Joseph Goebbels. All are Machiavellian in their quest for power.

 

 

Wasn't it Frank Luntz who wrote the Techniques for Truth Suppression for a Seminar of Republican Activists?

 

Tea Party Christocrat Worksheet of Techniques for Truth Suppression, adopted from a seminar for Republican Activists

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press.

 

Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

 

Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

 

Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

 

Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

 

Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "leftist", "commie", "kook," "crackpot", and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

 

Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

 

Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

 

Dismiss the charges as "old news."

 

Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

 

Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

 

Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

 

Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

 

Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

 

Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

 

Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

 

Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

 

Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

 

[konchog uma]

LOL seriously!?

 

LOL yup

 

pretty much everyone everywhere since the beginnings of the human race have defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

 

lol thats because homosexuals and lesbians are a minority, statistically speaking. And what humans do in a dark age doesn't interest me. Acceptance of all manifestations of the spectrum of human sexuality is a far more interesting topic. Anything to add on that note?

[Green Tiger]

LOL yup

 

 

 

lol thats because homosexuals and lesbians are a minority, statistically speaking. And what humans do in a dark age doesn't interest me. Acceptance of all manifestations of the spectrum of human sexuality is a far more interesting topic. Anything to add on that note?

 

I kissed a boy once . . . as he and I tag-teamed his ex-girlfriend. I'm not sure where that puts me on the spectrum of human sexuality, but I enjoyed every second of it.

[joeblast]

Of course I never have denied theists having their own issues, just like any other group there's some manifestation of "issues."

 

I dunno, "the side that supports this" basically also supports complete and utter fiscal recklessness, apparently. That's really what I have a problem with. This social stuff...in the larger scheme, is it really *that* big of a deal - thus I really identify a little more with the libertarian point of view on many things, the "this isnt important enough for the involvement of the behwemoth juggernaut government."

 

That fake paper was pretty funny - what's the term for when you are blatantly doing something so you create a diversionary tactic by claiming your opponent is blatantly doing that very thing?

[Aetherous]

[ralis]

[Vmarco]

Edited April 6, 2012 by Vmarco

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

 

As for silver hair,...if you are implying wisdom, why would a wise person have grey hair? Why are we media-ted with such a belief?

 

 

ACTUALLY.... i have no such belief, i jsut think it would look really awesome

[Vmarco]

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/198169/did-i-fucking-stutter

[Owledge]

Having a propensity for being homosexual, bisexual, or transgender is a natural condition,...

I think the topic has been way to politically charged the whole time for doing widely publicly known and proper(!) research. First it was shunned, a taboo (and still is in some cultures), and now you better not say anything against the mainstream, at least in many regions.

Based on numerous practical case examples, I consider it highly likely that homosexuality has psychological causes. There are just too many striking correlations, and it is also a common laziness of science to just say "It's natural." / "It's in the genes.".

 

 

Curious anecdote: I've been told that in Asian (or Japanese only?) cultures, the topic of homosexuality is so much a taboo that they don't even have a name for it.

Edited April 17, 2012 by Owledge

[Aaron]

But I abhor changing the definitions of things to suit the times. All changing the definition of terms does is sow confusion. I mean, read the words on this page, cripes...

 

Umm... I would think you could just say, "this is how we define it legally." And that would be enough. Isn't that exactly what the courts do? So you can have the legal definition and the religious definition, but the legal definition, if we're following the constitution, should not be influenced by the religions. Does that solve the problem or is it that you don't want things to change?

 

Aaron

[Vmarco]

Anyone hear of Aravan, patron god of the transgendered?

 

Transgendered people, eunuchs gather in India for Koovagam festival

 

Hadn't heard of this before.

 

First,...there is no such thing as "Transgendered people." The word Transgender is a noun.

 

Calling a Hijra, a castrated male or eunuch is disgusting.

 

Actually,...most Tea Patriots should be eunuchs or castrated males.

"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." Matthew 19:12

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

http://www.memecente...fucking-stutter

 

 

I think this is all that really matters anymore at this point lol

[gendao]

Three of the 14 points of fascism describe this group.

 

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights

 

The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

 

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

 

The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

 

5. Rampant sexism

 

Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

So, are you saying that orthodox Muslims, Jews & most of Africa are also "fascist?" If so, should we keep supporting such "fascist" regimes with our large amounts of foreign aid?

Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem have found common ground in their fierce opposition to a gay rights rally due to be held in the city this week.

which has prompted nights of street protest by ultra-orthodox Jews, who regard homosexuality as an "abomination", and death threats against those taking part.

 

issue of the parade is generating more media coverage than the Israeli military incursion into Gaza, which has left more than 50 Palestinians dead.

 

city's Islamic leadership is opposed to the parade, with Tayseer Tamimi, the head of the Palestinian supreme council of Sharia litigation, leading Muslim opposition. "This march tries to destroy the moral and spiritual values for youths," he said. "All religions discredit gays because it is against the decent human nature created by God."

 

Ultra-orthodox Jews have protested for three nights, setting up burning barricades and throwing rocks

 

Homosexuality was legalised in Israel 18 years ago, but gay rights campaigners said many homosexuals were intimidated by Jerusalem's strongly homophobic atmosphere.

But Africa is actually the most anti-homosexual continent BY FAR - where homosexuality is illegal in most of its countries and even punishable by death in several.

Same-sex acts are illegal in Zimbabwe. Mugabe once described homosexuals as “lower than pigs and dogs.”

 

Condemnation of gays is common in Africa. Ugandan lawmakers have proposed imposing the death penalty on some gays. A gay couple is on trial in Malawi, charged with unnatural acts and gross indecency.

Across Africa governments are laying down the law against homosexuality and 38 out of 53 countries have criminalised consensual gay sex

So, how come we haven't invaded Zimbabwe to "liberate" them just like half of the Middle East yet?

Edited February 5, 2013 by vortex