Flolfolil Posted February 10, 2013 the very ability TO fight is that right in action. free will is something we all possess uniformly. it is our intrinsic right. i think i see what you mean. It sounds like something i believe along the lines of "anarchy always exists, because you can do what you want and someone can prevent you from doing it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 i'm all for your friends getting what they want and being happy. Just because i don't believe in rights doesn't mean i'm some cold heartless asshole. The situation is funny to me. Most things are hilarious to me, especially peoples notions about how the world should be. i wish my dog shit rainbows, but if i dwell on that for the rest of my life i will never be free or happy I don't think that you're "a cold heartless asshole". If I did, you certainly would NOT be on my Friends List! That I guarantee you!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 Just know that one does not need to fight to acquire their right; free will is yours, fighting is only to protect, not to harm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted February 10, 2013 yeah i agree. i believe the only thing we have that can't be taken is free will/the mind well maybe mind control, but i see no evidence for that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted February 10, 2013 I don't think that you're "a cold heartless asshole". If I did, you certainly would NOT be on my Friends List! That I guarantee you!!! Hah, thanks and with that i have said everything i have to say on this subject. Taking my leave from this thread 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 "The only thing a man has is his word."Practicing what you preach is evidence of the spirit of your word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 yeah i agree. i believe the only thing we have that can't be taken is free will/the mind well maybe mind control, but i see no evidence for that... Proof exists in practicing the pursuit of perfection by thinking honestly about your actions, speaking honestly about your thoughts, acting honestly upon your words, and thinking honestly upon your actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Posted February 10, 2013 I looked into the studies that White Wolf posted earlier in this thread and others that propagate anti-gay stereotypes. The vast majority are over a decade old and have been discredited and disproven, of the recent ones listed, I couldn't find any that directly related to homosexuality, but rather dangerous sex acts period. Just a bunch of hysteria and hate mongering. I can't believe Taobums is allowing this kind of pandering and hate mongering to exist. That post should, at the very least be noted for what it is, rather than allow it to cater to the homophobes that want to spread their hate and fear to others. Aaron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 I looked into the studies that White Wolf posted earlier in this thread and others that propagate anti-gay stereotypes. The vast majority are over a decade old and have been discredited and disproven, of the recent ones listed, I couldn't find any that directly related to homosexuality, but rather dangerous sex acts period. Just a bunch of hysteria and hate mongering. I can't believe Taobums is allowing this kind of pandering and hate mongering to exist. That post should, at the very least be noted for what it is, rather than allow it to cater to the homophobes that want to spread their hate and fear to others. Aaron Are you gay yourself Aaron? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Are you gay yourself Aaron? Just wondering because the "not straight" people here seem to be able to take care of themselves quite well and I very much doubt that they need Aaron to protect them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 ^^^ I'd appreciate the feedback from anyone qualified to comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted February 10, 2013 Are you gay yourself Aaron? Is this question even relevant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Is this question even relevant? It is to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted February 10, 2013 ^^^ I'd appreciate the feedback from anyone qualified to comment. Dude, I think if this thread had an air of acceptance, warm & welcoming sentiments, you might have more luck in asking people who identify with LGBTI to identify themselves to you to make a "legitimate" comment. If you think that one person who is gay can speak for all that are gay, you may be mistaken as well. The term does not apply to a group of people with like minds, but a group of people who share the same sexual orientation, and may be diverse in very other aspect. Just my opinion. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted February 10, 2013 It is to me Well, if you have something going for Aaron, positive or negative, try a personal message perhaps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Dude, I think if this thread had an air of acceptance, warm & welcoming sentiments, you might have more luck in asking people who identify with LGBTI to identify themselves to you to make a "legitimate" comment. If you think that one person who is gay can speak for all that are gay, you may be mistaken as well. The term does not apply to a group of people with like minds, but a group of people who share the same sexual orientation, and may be diverse in very other aspect. Just my opinion. I respect your opinion. Just asking for some feedback from the "not straight" people because it seems that the two loudest and most badly informed Crusaders here are straight white men...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Well, if you have something going for Aaron, positive or negative, try a personal message perhaps. Nah Public discussion is the way forwards with this. "Put up or shut up" ^^^ (not addressed to you incidentally ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Aaron finds it difficult to debate me - it seems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Seth Ananda keeps libelling me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 It does seem as though those two have some personal issues which I find intriguing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Semi-professionally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted February 10, 2013 Well, I for one, find Aaron's last thread to have nailed the issue here. Just my opinion. I find Seth to be championing a worthwhile cause with personal integrity & honour. Again, just my opinion. However, I have noticed you taking issue with Aaron across the board. I would be ignoring your efforts to engage if I was him too. Again, just my opinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Well, I for one, find Aaron's last thread to have nailed the issue here. Just my opinion. I find Seth to be championing a worthwhile cause with personal integrity & honour. Again, just my opinion. However, I have noticed you taking issue with Aaron across the board. I would be ignoring your efforts to engage if I was him too. Again, just my opinion. Thanks for the feedback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 They can both "talk to the hand" now unless they add me to their "Friends Lists" Appreciate your help with this. It was a very emotive topic area for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 Seems as though they both had very troubled childhoods... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
