Right Wing War Against LGBT's

[eye_of_the_storm]

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality.

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/anal-cancer-rise-in-gay-men-prompts-calls-for-vaccinations/

http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html

http://www.allaboutlove.org/homosexual-health.htm

http://www.jettandjahn.com/2012/05/the-hidden-consequences-of-homosexuality/

http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/health-risks-of-the-homosexual-lifestyle/

http://www.british-israel.ca/gay%20marriage.htm

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/medical-downside-of-homosexual-behavior

Edited February 5, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[ralis]

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality.

 

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

 

http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/anal-cancer-rise-in-gay-men-prompts-calls-for-vaccinations/

 

http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html

 

http://www.allaboutlove.org/homosexual-health.htm

 

http://www.jettandjahn.com/2012/05/the-hidden-consequences-of-homosexuality/

 

http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/health-risks-of-the-homosexual-lifestyle/

 

http://www.british-israel.ca/gay%20marriage.htm

 

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/medical-downside-of-homosexual-behavior

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What you post here is from right wing religious organizations. What does this post have to do except reaffirm that LGBT people are hated and discriminated against. You seem to be in the right wing religious camp.

 

Your links prove the dangers of religious bigotry.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Science my friend, science.

You wouldn't be discriminating against the religious now would you?

That would be hypocrisy.

[idquest]

As soon as gay marriages are recognized by law, the federal tax revenue is going to drop by a sizable amount. Who is going to pay for the difference?

[ralis]

The last two posts have proven the point of this thread!

[eye_of_the_storm]

Did you read the texts through?

How about... (the previous links are more detailed / scientific + stats % etc)

Kirk & Madsen - Gays Generalizing on the Lifestyle

http://seask.cotse.net/con-spiratio/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1216

""Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s (1989).

In Chapter Six, they outline “ten categories of misbehavior,” drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, “is the pits.” They want gays to improve their image by addressing “what is wrong with a lot of gays.” (276)

What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications.

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  • They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to “If it feels good, I´ll do it!” If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of “sexual freedom” and the friend be damned.
  
  • They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.”
  
  • As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.
  
  • They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.
  
  • They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.
  
  • Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.” Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.
  
  • “Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The “cheating ratio of ‘married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.”
  
  • Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.
  
  • The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.
  
  2nd post from ^
  
  Now, browse with me through another manifesto entitled After the Ball, How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the ‘90s (New York, Doubleday, 1989), by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
  
  The authors teach that sodomites should "inundate" straights (normal men and women) "in a continuous flood of gay-related advertising . . . ." (p. 149). The advertising will perpetrate something called "jamming," which they explain as follows: ". . . Thus propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths and a**holes-people who say not only ‘faggot’ but ‘nigger,’ ‘kike,’ and other shameful epithets-who are ‘not Christian.’ . . ." (p. 151)
  
  The goal is something they call "conversion," which is worse than old-fashioned subversion. " . . . Yet, ironically, by Conversion we actually mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life . . . . We mean conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. . . ." (p. 153) (italics added)
  
  On the next page, they admit that those ads will be lies. ". . . But it makes no difference that the ads are lies; not to us, because we’re using them to ethically good effect . . . ." In other words, the end justifies the means, a hallowed commandment to all Marxists. The important thing, they say, is to keep talking, talking, talking, because the more they talk about sodomy, the more "tiresome" and normal it will seem.
  
  Finally, Kirk and Madsen say this: "[A]ctivists have concentrated their efforts on politics, meaning efforts to secure gay rights by conspiring with liberal elites within the legal and legislative systems." (Pp. 170-71) Remember, the word "conspiring" is theirs, not mine.
  
  Indeed: ". . . The goal here has been to forge a little entente or conspiracy with the power elite, to jump ahead of public sentiment or ignore it altogether." They speak of the successful use of "many executive orders (which side-step the democratic process) . . . ." (italics added)
  
  Now ask yourself, is all this a mere fantasy, or has it been happening? The point is that the present sodomite explosion is by no means haphazard; you are being subjected to a brilliantly orchestrated plan, the first gambit in which was the founding of the Mattachine Society by Reds. And remember that all of this comes from the connivers themselves, what our friends the lawyers call an "admission against interest."
  
  Finally, remember that according to the holiest writ of the sodomite movement, people are born homosexual. No choice is involved. Sodomites can no more blamed for sodomy than "straights" can be blamed for heterosexuality. But Kirk and Madsen say as follows on page 184 in a parenthesis: ". . . (We argue that, for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been born gay-even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood and early adolescence.) To suggest in public that homosexuality might be chosen is to open the can of worms labeled ‘moral choice and sin’ and give the religious Intransigents a stick to beat us with. . . ."

Edited February 6, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[eye_of_the_storm]

Here is a link to the original text.

http://www.amazon.com/After-Ball-America-Conquer-Hatred/dp/0452264987

[eye_of_the_storm]

Also... There is no Person V Person... just a behaviour people don't agree with...

We need a better understanding of these things.

Edited February 6, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Seth Ananda]

everything I wanted to say about the gay 'Issue' I said in this thread:

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/25482-taoists-and-homophobia/page-9

[Aaron]

I wanted to say, who has the right to disagree with a lifestyle choice that doesn't harm anyone? The claims made about harm are circumstantial and by no means "evidence", regardless of the author or their sexuality. In the end people are just looking for a justifiable reason to hate other people. It's sad and a bit sick. I really hope that the next generation doesn't have to deal with this kind of bull shit. The same people attacking homosexuality also seem to be the ones advocating fascism... not really surprising.

 

Aaron

[eye_of_the_storm]

The above was written by homosexuals.

Doesn't harm anyone?

Perhaps you should read these before making such misinformed claims... in terms of evidence.

I'll post again...

I once supported such "liberal" views, I once supported gay marriage... then I realized I actually knew nothing about the lifestyle... what was it that I was supporting?

So I did some research.

Also take note... I live with 2 lesbians, there is no such thing as hate just 1 disagreement about a CHOICE...

Not everyone agrees about everything... no need to say it really? haha

The topic was raised once very calming, they understand my position... I understand theirs... and that was that... everything is good.

Never mentioned again.

You can desist with childish antics...

This is about a choice...

People are able to make better choices when they are informed...

I am simply here to dispel ignorance...

If after reading the below you still wish to participate in such behaviours that is your choice... and I respect that.

What I don't respect is people trying to hide the facts... and in so doing causing unnecessary harm.

This is called SEXUAL EDUCATION.

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality + Heterosexual relationships are also mention in one of these links regarding the practice of anal sex.

If some of you practice such... if you really love your partner you will educate yourself and your partner about such things. If after reading...both of you still wish to practice such things... that is your choice.

http://www.lifesiten...r-vaccinations/

http://www.narth.com...ealthrisks.html

http://www.allaboutl...xual-health.htm

http://www.jettandja...-homosexuality/

http://factsaboutyou...xual-lifestyle/

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

http://www.british-i...ay marriage.htm

http://www.zenit.org...sexual-behavior

Edited February 7, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Aetherous]

There is definitely something to the idea that gay (men, at least) tend to be STD-ridden. I saw this for myself while working in a certain health care setting.

That being said...I think there should be equal human rights for all people, and that everyone should be accepted and forgiven no matter what. There is no need to make people feel like garbage, and like they aren't welcome in the world. Lets get on with life.

[Apech]

If I post some links to levels of domestic violence, depression and heart attacks in married heterosexual people will you support me in trying to make marriage illegal?

 

You condemn gay people for high levels of STDs and so on ... and then are against gay marriage or civil partnerships which would allow more long term settled relationships.

 

So basically all this crap is about condemning people who are different to you.

 

Spin and propaganda by the far right. Yuk.

[Aaron]

White Wolf Running on Air,

 

I seriously doubt you live with two lesbians. If you do, they must be the most patient and forgiving lesbians on the planet. What I see is that you have a problem thinking for yourself, so you parrot what others have said. I think if you actually knew someone who was gay or lesbian you'd find it hard to justify acting and behaving the way you do.

 

Turtle shell,

 

For someone who demands others treat them with respect, you really don't feel others need to be treated with respect by you. This is kind of weird and a bit hypocritical.

 

Aaron

Edited February 7, 2013 by Aaron

[gatito]

White Wolf Running on Air,

 

I seriously doubt you live with two lesbians. If you do, they must be the most patient and forgiving lesbians on the planet. What I see is that you have a problem thinking for yourself, so you parrot what others have said. I think if you actually knew someone who was gay or lesbian you'd find it hard to justify acting and behaving the way you do.

 

Turtle shell,

 

For someone who demands others treat them with respect, you really don't feel others need to be treated with respect by you. This is kind of weird and a bit hypocritical.

 

Aaron

 

Isn't it an insult to call someone a liar?

 

Perhaps you should report yourself Aaron??

[eye_of_the_storm]

Post away Apech

Perhaps another thread?

I would be interested.

I am finished with this particular topic.

Just a number links for others ..if they so wish to gain a better understanding.

I am not here to argue really.

[gatito]

 

 

 

I am simply here to dispel spread ignorance...

 

 

There, I fixed that for you.

 

 

No you didn't.

 

Perhaps it's a good idea to listen to what's being said instead of misquoting a tiny part of what's been said in order to fit in with your own prejudices?

 

What's the point of joining this discussion if you're not actually listening to what's being said?

Edited February 7, 2013 by gatito

[Apech]

Post away Apech

 

Perhaps another thread?

 

I would be interested.

 

I am finished with this particular topic.

 

Just a number links for others ..if they so wish to gain a better understanding.

 

I am not here to argue really.

 

 

 

I'm not going to actually do it ... I was making a point.

[gatito]

I listened to what he said and replied in a way that I felt was appropriate. On the other hand, I have no interest in what you have to say. Good day.

 

For the record

[gatito]

Record away, I could not care less.

 

Then why are you still replying to me after you said: -

 

"I listened to what he said and replied in a way that I felt was appropriate. On the other hand, I have no interest in what you have to say. Good day."

[eye_of_the_storm]

I'm not going to actually do it ... I was making a point.

 

Ok, I still think it would be a good topic however...

 

Sex / relationships in general maybe...

 

There seems to have develop a neurosis regarding these...

 

Numerous threads... regarding such /

 

Masturbation / porn addiction and so on

 

Society has become far too obsessed with sex / image etc

 

Not enough focus on developing wholesome relationships / trust / love etc

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Apech]

 

Ok, I still think it would be a good topic however...

 

Sex / relationships in general maybe...

 

There seems to have develop a neurosis regarding these...

 

Numerous threads... regarding such /

 

Masturbation / porn addiction and so on

 

Society has become far too obsessed with sex / image etc

 

Not enough focus on developing wholesome relationships / trust / love etc

 

 

 

 

 

My point is that you could take any group in society and identify health risk in relation to it. For instance motorcycle accidents often fatal .. so bikers should not be allowed. Do you get my point now?

[gatito]

What's wrong posse? Can't help escalating the situation?

 

For the record

 

Again

[gatito]

And for anyone wondering why its necessary to capture theposse's posts for the record:-

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/26756-its-almost-imperceptable-but-it-hurts-the-forum-when-fewer-topics-show/page-4#entry400531

[eye_of_the_storm]

^ haha