Gift of the Tao II Neigong Movements

[C T]

Not at all, there's a reason I know. Correct Chinese pronouciation is hardly important, except when you talk to Chinese people regularly

 

Learning Mandarin still doesn't help when your inlaws gossip round the dinner table in Cantonese though!

 

Best,

if you feel like surprising your wife and in-laws with some basic Cantonese phrases, i'd be happy to help via PM.

 

As you know, asking a Chinese person if he or she has had breakfast/lunch/dinner is more the norm than asking them how they are, food being such a big thing for them . In Mandarin, for example, its ni cher ler, mei yo? In Cantonese... Lei sek pau mei? (lit. Have you filled yourself with food yet?) Or, sek hoi farn mei? (lit. have you had rice yet?).

 

If small-talking about the weather, which has been quite wet lately, you can say, when it starts to rain, "Hah! Yat yat tu lok yue", which translates into English as, "Hah! Raining every day".

[Jox]

I have learned and practiced GOT1 up to movement 13 so far ...

What is interesting, I practiced tha movement 1 this night ..., but it was in my dreams ...

 

Peace, Jox

Edited December 28, 2013 by Jox

[Ya Mu]

I have learned and practiced GOT1 up to movement 13 so far ...

What is interesting, I practiced tha movement 1 this night ..., but it was in my dreams ...

 

Peace, Jox

The Gift of the Tao moves come from the energy patterns of the Higher Levels, from dreamtime interaction. It is natural that we do these in "dreams" and we quite often do so.

[tendou]

interesting. i remember doing move number 3 in a dream

[ronko]

Funny these dream time posts are popping up as I just posted about an experience on the S-M forum

 

last week I had 2 different dreams of doing gift of the tao
but...
its like something or someone doesnt want me to do it ?
In the first one I was doing gift of the tao
then had some negative entity type stuff going on but did some kind of energy work on it and transformed it ,
the next thing I can remember I was doing energy work on a woman ,
my hands on her heart and on her back in line with her heart ,
I then woke up to find I was having energetic spasm's lying in bed.

The next dream I was doing the first few moves of gift of the tao 1
and a Chinese man appeared in what I can only describe
as a black kung fu suit ...
a very negative and violent energy to him and made me stop doing gift of the tao ?
Whether these where just strange dreams I dont know?

[Friend]

The next dream I was doing the first few moves of gift of the tao 1
and a Chinese man appeared in what I can only describe
as a black kung fu suit ...
a very negative and violent energy to him and made me stop doing gift of the tao ?
Whether these where just strange dreams I dont know?

 

I was asking how a normal person do shielding.

Well in the lineage people get this transmission to do so.

How about people who just do the exercise from a DVD,

how can they protect themselves?

[Jox]

Funny these dream time posts are popping up as I just posted about an experience on the S-M forum

 

last week I had 2 different dreams of doing gift of the tao

but...

its like something or someone doesnt want me to do it ?

In the first one I was doing gift of the tao

then had some negative entity type stuff going on but did some kind of energy work on it and transformed it ,

the next thing I can remember I was doing energy work on a woman ,

my hands on her heart and on her back in line with her heart ,

I then woke up to find I was having energetic spasm's lying in bed.

 

The next dream I was doing the first few moves of gift of the tao 1

and a Chinese man appeared in what I can only describe

as a black kung fu suit ...

a very negative and violent energy to him and made me stop doing gift of the tao ?

Whether these where just strange dreams I dont know?

 

Interesting ...

 

My dream story ... outside was an event, a lot of people out there ... I walked by, to find a quiet space to practice nearby ..., but I run into something like gray/black fog in the night ... I just turned back and did movements just behind the crowd ... I did not care, if there had been a lot of people ... One girl even asked, what I was doing ...

Edited December 29, 2013 by Jox

[Ya Mu]

Funny these dream time posts are popping up as I just posted about an experience on the S-M forum

 

last week I had 2 different dreams of doing gift of the tao

but...

its like something or someone doesnt want me to do it ?

In the first one I was doing gift of the tao

then had some negative entity type stuff going on but did some kind of energy work on it and transformed it ,

the next thing I can remember I was doing energy work on a woman ,

my hands on her heart and on her back in line with her heart ,

I then woke up to find I was having energetic spasm's lying in bed.

 

The next dream I was doing the first few moves of gift of the tao 1

and a Chinese man appeared in what I can only describe

as a black kung fu suit ...

a very negative and violent energy to him and made me stop doing gift of the tao ?

Whether these where just strange dreams I dont know?

 

I gave you a reply.

To sum it up:

There is much darkness that influences weak-minded individuals.

Don't practice anything that has jealousy involved.

Shield yourself - you know how. If it happens again ask entity to leave and if they don't then project Light to them . Don't stop practicing just because someone doesn't understand what you do.

Good job on the first one.

[Ya Mu]

I was asking how a normal person do shielding.

Well in the lineage people get this transmission to do so.

How about people who just do the exercise from a DVD,

how can they protect themselves?

I give a method in the book.

Shielding goes a long way.

[Friend]

I give a method in the book.

Shielding goes a long way.

 

Well the thing that would come into my mind is:

1.Prayer

2.Light Warriors Prayer

3.Being Calm

4.Being Good and Moral Person

5.Practise Qigong daily

6.Using Sandalwood, smoking,oil or Sage to cleanse daily the energyfield.

 

Was there really a specific method for normal people in the book?

[Leif]

 

Was there really a specific method for normal people in the book?

 

I remember a part about bubble shield, if that's it.

[Friend]

I remember a part about bubble shield, if that's it.

I am not sure if the purple bubble also work for normal people,

it is a point I am not clear.

[Ya Mu]

Shielding can be done by anyone.

However, the amount of "oomph" or manifestation is directly proportional to INTENT and energy. And this gets back to the "who you are" as well as the amount of practice one puts in.

So yes, a person just beginning these moves can shield. But it does get better proportionally to the amount of practice.

There are people who took my workshop but didn't practice who all of a sudden thought of this technique in an immediate situation. Years later they tell me how amazed they were that it worked for them. If they practiced it would work much better.

[RiverSnake]

Been having some interesting experience with GOT as of late. I am used to going into spontaneous shaking while practicing GOT....but this time I starting running, hopping, and dancing in spirals. I ran around in spirals that progressively got smaller and smaller until I fell over off balance onto the ground and stayed there until my vision stopped spinning. Anyone have this experience before? It felt quite shamanic in nature.

 

Also I know it is important to stay hydrated as this stuff burns through a lot of water. But does how well hydrated your are before you practice influence the efficiency of the energetics when you practice?

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Edited February 1, 2014 by OldChi

[Ya Mu]

I don't quite recall that move being in Gift of the Tao I or II

 

We should remember a part is will, a part is intent, a part is energy.

Use your will to not do anything that could be hazardous in any way. The system, as laid out, doesn't do what you describe. Yes, you were following energetics but you didn't engage will nor intent to stay within the energetics of Gift of Tao. Those spirals are already incorporated in our system in GOT II, but in a way to be utilized in harmony. I suggest doing more of the GOT II spirals to internalize the external energy patterns and not move like you did with the external pattern.

Yes, I do similar shamanic oriented energetic pattern movements but they all have a specific purpose and utilize will to be in harmony with the energetics without moving in an extreme, possibly harmful to yourself pattern.

 

Yes, the way to stay hydrated is to be hydrated when beginning practice. Certainly it effects the practice.

[RiverSnake]

I don't quite recall that move being in Gift of the Tao I or II

 

We should remember a part is will, a part is intent, a part is energy.

Use your will to not do anything that could be hazardous in any way. The system, as laid out, doesn't do what you describe. Yes, you were following energetics but you didn't engage will nor intent to stay within the energetics of Gift of Tao. Those spirals are already incorporated in our system in GOT II, but in a way to be utilized in harmony. I suggest doing more of the GOT II spirals to internalize the external energy patterns and not move like you did with the external pattern.

Yes, I do similar shamanic oriented energetic pattern movements but they all have a specific purpose and utilize will to be in harmony with the energetics without moving in an extreme, possibly harmful to yourself pattern.

 

Yes, the way to stay hydrated is to be hydrated when beginning practice. Certainly it effects the practice.

 

Thanks for the advice Michael, I'll keep that in mind.

 

I have been mainly focusing on S-M and GOT 1 and haven't done GOT 2 (besides SECA&DE) in many months. Is it alright to do GOT 2 as stand alone movements or should you always do GOT 1 in the same session before going to GOT 2? I generally don't have enough time to both in the same session.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

[Brian]

I will often do GOT II or III or SECABDE as a stand-alone set, just as I often do sitting S-M or standing S-M or GOT I as stand-alone sessions. When time permits, I'll chain them together (maybe S-M in the AM, GOT I at lunch and GOT II & III in the evening, for instance, or SECABDE as its own set if crunched for time). Remember that the exercises build on each other frequency-wise...

Edited February 2, 2014 by Brian

[RiverSnake]

Thanks Brian.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Edited February 2, 2014 by OldChi

[Ya Mu]

Thanks for the advice Michael, I'll keep that in mind. I have been mainly focusing on S-M and GOT 1 and haven't done GOT 2 (besides SECA&DE) in many months. Is it alright to do GOT 2 as stand alone movements or should you always do GOT 1 in the same session before going to GOT 2? I generally don't have enough time to both in the same session. My 2 cents, Peace

You can do GOT I then immediately GOT II or you can do GOT I one day and GOT II the next day. But it is time you progressed to doing II.

[Jox]

What is difference between GOT1 & GOT2?

[Brian]

Two different qigong "sets" or "forms" within the jingdonggong nothing system. The movements in GOT I build upon each other energetically and the second set ratchets the energy levels up even higher. There is a third set which is currently not available on DVD.

 

The sets should be learned in sequence as they do build on each other but the higher-level ones are not replacements for the lower-level ones. I think of it as developing ALL the colors of the rainbow rather than just violet. Or playing the entire neck of a guitar rather than just the few frets closest to the body...

[Jox]

So ... I learned step by step trough whole set of GOT 1, from Dec. I think ... I have been practicing it less or more regularly each day 30 - 40 min after iron shirt standing. While doing the set I dive into feeling of movements, peace ... When I switch from movement to movement, seems as I changed the channel ... Energy flows ... Interesting that energy become thicker ... For example when I roll the ball I feel my hand/body as on fire ... When doing the "atomic structure" abowe the head I feel quite a presure on my head ... After practice I have no words for some time ... "cant" talk ...

 

My state without words was quite annoying to my girlfriend yesterday ... I explained to her that I am "hit" bacause of qi gong ... Maybe better for me to take a short rest after practice and then socialise ...

[RiverSnake]

Had some interesting experiences recently with S-M. Stream of lifght flowin up through my body while also saturating me with chi..hesitating at my forehead.....but when I released the rest of my wayward thoughts and surrender it jumped past my forehead and enveloped me completely.

 

Doing some basic concentration exercise are really helping with my nei-gong work and keeping my focus on the LDT. The more stable your awareness on the LDT the more efficient the energetics seem to be.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Edited March 1, 2014 by OldChi

[Ya Mu]

Jox said,

"So ... I learned step by step trough whole set of GOT 1, from Dec. I think ... I have been practicing it less or more regularly each day 30 - 40 min after iron shirt standing. While doing the set I dive into feeling of movements, peace ... When I switch from movement to movement, seems as I changed the channel ... Energy flows ... Interesting that energy become thicker ... For example when I roll the ball I feel my hand/body as on fire ... When doing the "atomic structure" abowe the head I feel quite a presure on my head ... After practice I have no words for some time ... "cant" talk ...

 

My state without words was quite annoying to my girlfriend yesterday ... I explained to her that I am "hit" bacause of qi gong ... Maybe better for me to take a short rest after practice and then socialise ... :)"

 

 

Jox,

I think you now know what I mean when I use the word "shifting" in describing these movements.

 

It is best to sit or do something mundane a bit as we go places that are beyond linear time & space and when we come back it just is a bit weird to be in conventional time & space.

Edited March 3, 2014 by Ya Mu

[Ya Mu]

Had some interesting experiences recently with S-M. Stream of lifght flowin up through my body while also saturating me with chi..hesitating at my forehead.....but when I released the rest of my wayward thoughts and surrender it jumped past my forehead and enveloped me completely.

 

Doing some basic concentration exercise are really helping with my nei-gong work and keeping my focus on the LDT. The more stable your awareness on the LDT the more efficient the energetics seem to be.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

If you remember, I have explained this through the explanation of what seers see when they observe practitioners of our system They see the dan tian start to glow, then get brighter and brighter, denser & denser, then begin rising up through the center of the body, opening up each energy center in turn, then popping out through the top of the head connecting with the higher levels.