ChiDragon Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) 1 .What are the qualities of a Taoist....??? 2. What is the first quality to be expected in a Taoist...??? 3. If you want to be a Taoist, what do you need to do to become one...??? 4. If you think that you are a Taoist now, what makes you think that you are one...??? 5. Since you have thought that you are a Taoist, did you follow all the principles or have you ever violated any of these principles....??? You may respond by answering anyone of the question. Edited June 25, 2012 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Protector Posted June 24, 2012 1 .What are the qualities of a Taoist....??? 2. What is the first quality to be expected in a Taoist...??? 3. If you want to be a Taoist, what do you need to do to become one...??? 4. If you think that you are a Taoist now, what makes you think that you are one...??? 5. Since you have thought that you are a Taoist, did you follow all the principles or have you ever violated any of these principles....??? You may respond by answering anyone of the question. I secretly have been waiting for this day to come *ahem* 1. Nothing 2. Nothing 3. Nothing 4. Nothing 5. Yes Man, that was less fun then I expected Eh, maybe when everyone starts arguing again I will explain the significance of these nothings 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted June 24, 2012 I secretly have been waiting for this day to come *ahem* 1. Nothing 2. Nothing 3. Nothing 4. Nothing 5. Yes Man, that was less fun then I expected Eh, maybe when everyone starts arguing again I will explain the significance of these nothings Would have been better if you would have waited with all of the correct answers... Less fun, because no one else need answer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Posted June 24, 2012 The irony is that we take the concept of taoism from Lao Tzu and he probably would've been the first to discourage thinking of yourself as one. He was all about personal freedom and not allowing labels to define who and what you are. You simply are, which means you don't have to be a Taoist or anything else, just who you are right here and now. Aaron 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) 2. What is the first quality to be expected in a Taoist...??? How about temperament....??? Edited June 24, 2012 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted June 24, 2012 1 .What are the qualities of a Taoist....??? 2. What is the first quality to be expected in a Taoist...??? 3. If you want to be a Taoist, what do you need to do to become one...??? 4. If you think that you are a Taoist now, what makes you think that you are one...??? 5. Since you have thought that you are a Taoist, did you follow all the principles or have you ever violated any of these principles....??? You may respond by answering anyone of the question. You're kidding. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 24, 2012 How about temperament....??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Practitioner Posted June 24, 2012 If there is anything that I've noticed about Chidragon on this forum, it is that he is very pretentious. Most if not all the time he will ask you "questions" that he already supposes knowing the answers to. And when everyone gives their answers, he will tell you that you are wrong and then will give his own answer. In short, these questions are made not because he is actually interested in anything you have to say, but rather, so that he can show off whatever supposed knowledge that he already thinks he has. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Informer Posted June 24, 2012 What if I said that I think I'm a taoist because I don't think I'm a taoist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 What if I said that I think I'm a taoist because I don't think I'm a taoist? In that case, you are not a Taoist.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 25, 2012 Actually, by definition we all are Taoists. However, that does not mean to suggest that we all follow the Way of Tao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) What about Jin Dan Jiao ? Is it taoism? Edited June 25, 2012 by DAO rain TAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 Actually, by definition we all are Taoists. However, that does not mean to suggest that we all follow the Way of Tao. What is your definition of Taoist...??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 What about Jin Dan Jiao ? Is it taoism? What are the Chinese characters for Jin Dan Jiao(教).....???? Can anyone help me to translate them...??? If the this character was used Jiao(教), then it is definitely a Taoist sect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 25, 2012 What is your definition of Taoist...??? A person who walks the path (as much as possible) of the Way of Tao and follows the teachings (as much as possible) within the TTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 A person who walks the path (as much as possible) of the Way of Tao and follows the teachings (as much as possible) within the TTC. Yes, that is a Taoist in the philosophy category. May I ask..??? Do you consider to look for the first quality of a Taoist is a good temperament.....??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 25, 2012 1 .What are the qualities of a Taoist....??? 2. What is the first quality to be expected in a Taoist...??? 3. If you want to be a Taoist, what do you need to do to become one...??? 4. If you think that you are a Taoist now, what makes you think that you are one...??? 5. Since you have thought that you are a Taoist, did you follow all the principles or have you ever violated any of these principles....??? You may respond by answering anyone of the question. A person who pursues his peace rather than pursues the paradigms of his discontent is following the rationale of Taoism Qualities are subjective illusion Yes I think I am one ,but not as avid as perhaps would be self advantageous. We keep our self defeating paradigms because, even though the illusion is subjective, it is still powerful The eternal tao doent give a hoot whether we try to follow taoist methods or not. Folks who do not consider themselves taoist are just as 'valid' as we are. The ttc hints at the things which can bring folks to their peace but it is like a dictionary telling folks what words are real or not. It is the language which determines what should be in the book. And if the book is helpful it remains so only as long as it reflects that which independently IS. just my opinion, since you asked Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted June 25, 2012 How about temperament....??? I don't know if temperament is the really the word you want. You mean how the person relates to the environment, but in psychology temperament is something you're born with. It refers to innate qualities. So some kids (and adults) might be calm, quiet and introspective, others may be noisy, extroverted wild nonconformists. But what qualities of our nature are good or not good? Are there qualities in our nature that do not conform to Taoism? Do good Taoists temper their temperament and do what is expected of them? I find questions usually better than answers although nothingx4, yes, pretty much rocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 What I meant by "temperament" is self discipline in mental control under the worse adversity to keep one's cool. I think that is the primary requirement for a cultivated Taoist. What do you think...??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) how many Taoists are out there? according to this 2.7 million altho i wonder about the Chinese folk religion, what is that? http://www.religious...rg/worldrel.htm feel free to make the proper revisions to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism or it could be a tad over 6 million if one goes by this http://chartsbin.com/view/pog maybe 260 in Laos? http://www.wolframal...aoism/lg/34/0b/ edit> oh, how many taoist out there on TTB? good question Edited June 25, 2012 by zerostao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 25, 2012 May I ask..??? Do you consider to look for the first quality of a Taoist is a good temperament.....??? Ouch! Placing my expectations on others by looking for predetermined qualities? NO, no. I think we should not do that. I always try to leave any judgements until after show time. I would hope that I would never be jusdged until after I have proven myself to be what I truely am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted June 25, 2012 MH "after I have proven myself to be what I truely am." if a goal of taoism is to return one to their true self, is this done by experiencing and tasting taoism for oneself, or, by reading books about taoism or going by what others have said about taoism. ?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted June 25, 2012 What I meant by "temperament" is self discipline in mental control under the worse adversity to keep one's cool. I think that is the primary requirement for a cultivated Taoist. What do you think...??? Not for me, my temperament since childhood has been not to show upset or anger. It never was a struggle for self discipline to suck it up or keep my cool; I just do. Much more of a challenge for me has been to percieve my negative feelings and attachments at least to myself or even to express hurt or anger when I do feel it. Being able to keep your cool can be very useful, but some effects of cultivation for me have been more emotional experience and expression. Actually, I think perceiving while refraining from judgement would be high on the list if there was a list of requirements, maybe close behind nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 25, 2012 Temperment-wise ,, if someone was sagelike they wouldnt require any discipline to maintain their cool, not needing to preserve their ego view not needing to direct the course of events equally at peace whatever the circumstance viewing physical reality as a straw dog not fearing for their own wellbeing they would not be subject to the stress in the first place. Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 25, 2012 Temperment-wise ,, if someone was sagelike they wouldnt require any discipline to maintain their cool, not needing to preserve their ego view not needing to direct the course of events equally at peace whatever the circumstance viewing physical reality as a straw dog not fearing for their own wellbeing they would not be subject to the stress in the first place. Stosh Very good. I grant you that... Don't you think that "someone was sage like" was cultivated oneself by "not fearing for their own well being", In order, to get to that stage...??? Hence, "they would not be subject to the stress in the first second place." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
