Sifu ReL Posted July 10, 2012 anything on the lightness skill would be greatly appreciated....AND DONT TELL ME IT NOT POSSIBLE CUZ . THE FUCKING TRUTH IS THAT IS POSSIBLE! i seen a guy walk on paper, water, and stand on a scale and it decrease.  if you dont believe dont comment please dont kick the wheel  is it achieve through Meditation? if so, what type.  have anyone of you actually reduced your weight even by a pound.? thanks for your insight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Protector Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) I heard it was invented by a Baguazhang master, he stopped teaching it when his student started using that skill for theft I heard that circle walking is a part of learning it but I'm not sure how that works It's also found as one of the 72 skills of Shaolin, maybe it's the same thing but changed a little by the time it got there It's done in parts, one is digging a hole and jumping out of it in one jump then later you make the hole deeper and try to jump out again Another one is walking around a vat filled with water as if you're circle walking on it, you remove water a little by little as you progress, if you're too heavy you just make the whole thing fall over It's kinda detailed so you should look for the book about the 72 skills http://www.kungfulibrary.com/about-72-shaolin-arts.htm  By the way, I heard that it takes at least 20 years to master or something Edited July 10, 2012 by Sinfest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) anything on the lightness skill would be greatly appreciated....AND DONT TELL ME IT NOT POSSIBLE CUZ . THE FUCKING TRUTH IS THAT IS POSSIBLE! i seen a guy walk on paper, water, and stand on a scale and it decrease.  if you dont believe dont comment please dont kick the wheel  is it achieve through Meditation? if so, what type.  have anyone of you actually reduced your weight even by a pound.? thanks for your insight.  I've had some minor light body experiences after a session of Hung Lung Hei Gung.  I'm curious as to who you saw step on a scale and made it decrease in weight?   Edit:Grammer Edited July 10, 2012 by h.uriahr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted July 10, 2012 I heard it was invented by a Baguazhang master, he stopped teaching it when his student started using that skill for theft I heard that circle walking is a part of learning it but I'm not sure how that works It's also found as one of the 72 skills of Shaolin, maybe it's the same thing but changed a little by the time it got there It's done in parts, one is digging a hole and jumping out of it in one jump then later you make the hole deeper and try to jump out again Another one is walking around a vat filled with water as if you're circle walking on it, you remove water a little by little as you progress, if you're too heavy you just make the whole thing fall over It's kinda detailed so you should look for the book about the 72 skills http://www.kungfulibrary.com/about-72-shaolin-arts.htm  By the way, I heard that it takes at least 20 years to master or something   thanks, this was very helpful! . those guys were wrong, your not a jerk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiraltao Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) I have seen lightness skill demonstrated.  Pretty much all the input I have, but I just wanted to throw that out there.   I read that Tung Hai Chuan used his own lightness skill to burglarize and he got it from shaolin. Could you imagine Tung Hai Chuan breaking and entering.  oh well I got a good laugh  Scott taught me the hole digging thing as a kid, but I didn't stick with it... Edited July 10, 2012 by jaysahnztao 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted July 10, 2012 According to my teacher there are two approaches to this type of training - External - primarily physical training of the sort mentioned above Internal - meditation techniques  I began working on the internal method about 2 years into my meditation training. After focusing on the appropriate techniques for about 3 months, my training partners were shocked at my increase in speed and agility - sort of one second I'm there, the next I'm gone type thing when attacked. I worked on it for a few years but eventually turned my attention to other areas of the system. It's the kind of training that you need to specialize in and really commit to over a long period of time. I saw enough progress to be convinced that it works. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) These Lightness techniques do exist but I don't know of any that can be separated from the system they are within. Edited July 10, 2012 by Ya Mu 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted July 10, 2012 According to my teacher there are two approaches to this type of training - External - primarily physical training of the sort mentioned above Internal - meditation techniques  I began working on the internal method about 2 years into my meditation training. After focusing on the appropriate techniques for about 3 months, my training partners were shocked at my increase in speed and agility - sort of one second I'm there, the next I'm gone type thing when attacked. I worked on it for a few years but eventually turned my attention to other areas of the system. It's the kind of training that you need to specialize in and really commit to over a long period of time. I saw enough progress to be convinced that it works.  do you still remeber the Internal meditation technique? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted July 10, 2012 do you still remeber the Internal meditation technique? Of course! It's an integral part of my daily practice but not my primary focus. Tough to explain what I mean by that unless you understand the specifics of the system. It's actually extremely simple but you need quite a bit of preparation and foundation training to be able to "master" and see benefits from the technique. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted July 10, 2012 Of course! It's an integral part of my daily practice but not my primary focus. Tough to explain what I mean by that unless you understand the specifics of the system. It's actually extremely simple but you need quite a bit of preparation and foundation training to be able to "master" and see benefits from the technique. Â well can you tell me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) becoming lighter than air - use your imagination  i guess Edited July 10, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted July 10, 2012 well can you tell me? Â The system is built on first developing a solid foundation then adding incrementally based on the student's progress and so forth. Publishing an advanced technique on a public forum for strangers to play around with would be irresponsible and disrespectful to my teacher and style. Not only that, without having the foundation, it would be a total waste of time. It would be like teaching someone an advanced pushing hands technique without ever teaching them about Song... Â PS - I don't mean any disrespect. I take this training very seriously and I would only teach the methods in the same systematic fashion that I was trained by my teacher. He would never pull out an advanced meditation technique and teach it in a public forum, nor will I. Particularly when you get to the more advanced and secret techniques, they are reserved for long term, committed, and loyal students. This particular technique is only shared with disciples in our system. Sorry. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) edit on other post Edited July 10, 2012 by Ya Mu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiraltao Posted July 11, 2012 I found this and thought it fit this thread  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted July 12, 2012 edit on other post   Why did you remove your post info? I was digging it, and have been thinking about lightness qigong recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted July 12, 2012 Why did you remove your post info? I was digging it, and have been thinking about lightness qigong recently. Apparently the OP is looking for an add-on technique instead of an integrated system. I only know an integrated system which can't have the Lightness technique separated from. I have never heard of an add-on technique and don't think it exists, therefore my post was not useful to what he is looking for. Basically I just explained that our Lightness technique is within the advanced running qigong of our system as well as in one of the Gift of Tao II moves and that since Lightness is not the main goal of that GOT move I wouldn't suggest it be tried separately as a Lightness (only) technique. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted July 13, 2012 Apparently the OP is looking for an add-on technique instead of an integrated system. I only know an integrated system which can't have the Lightness technique separated from. I have never heard of an add-on technique and don't think it exists, therefore my post was not useful to what he is looking for. Basically I just explained that our Lightness technique is within the advanced running qigong of our system as well as in one of the Gift of Tao II moves and that since Lightness is not the main goal of that GOT move I wouldn't suggest it be tried separately as a Lightness (only) technique. Â Ah got it. Â Thanks. Â John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites