Loss of lust and libido ?

[mike 134]

Hi people !

 

I suddenly improved again the last three days and managed to get off sedating medication for kundalini (again). So I'm not thinking about terminating it anymore at this point, but another problem has taken its place which is quite frankly embarrassing. I'm wondering if anybody here has experience with this and can offer any solutions.

 

I've always been hypersexual. Sex, hitting on girls, thinking of sex, watching porn, whatever, it's a major, MAJOR part of my life. I dont recall ever losing interest in sex, even after working the overnight shift and being dead tired I'm always up for some action. Heck even when im finished I want more ! And I'm okay with it cause it's the way I always have been since I was a kid, yes, a kid.

 

When I started having kundalini problems a year ago my sex drive did not change at first. But then a couple of weeks ago I started having intense heat in various parts of my body, and one night I felt it going past my heart, like a river of fiery lava which pierced it. Ever since that one moment my sex drive has plummeted. It happened practically instantly; the very next day I found myself simply not interested in women anymore ! At first I didn't care too much cause I was still dealing with other symptoms like insomnia and agitation, but now that these are disappearing (at least for the last few days ), I'm really starting to notice the loss of libido.

 

When I'm out and I encounter hot girls, I immediately approach them and try to get their number, my head swirling in lust. But now I just walk past them altogether, and sometimes I don't even notice the women around me. I tried looking at porn, but I found it boring. WTF?!! I used to be able to sit for hours enthralled at the endless throng of hot women dancing across the screen. I have NEVER in my life found porn boring. But now it's simply not as pleasurable anymore, and a lot of the lust in my mind is gone. They say men think about sex every seven seconds, but I have hardly thought of it at all the last few weeks.

 

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbPN2gOsil_k&v=bPN2gOsil_k&gl=US

 

I know some of you think this may be desirable, but I'm a single guy in my 20's and i absolutely need my sexual powers functioning at 100%. Right now I have heat in the head and heart. I speculate that sexual energy is being diverted to those areas, so there is less energy left over for actual sex. So I tried to combat this by imagining energy going out of my head and heart and into the lower abdomen and sex organs. It actually worked the first time I tried this a couple of days ago, and the lust and pleasure returned. But the next day it disappeared again and this trick no longer works. So now what do I do ? Any ideas ? Thanks guys !

Edited July 25, 2012 by mike 134

[Fū Yue]

Don't fight what yourself wants to become in a misguided attempt to return to 'normalcy'.

There are many different ways to make love in this universe, and you can use those new centers of 'sexual heat' to magnetize and enthrall women as well. Chicks dig that heart love reactor you're developing.

[deci belle]

[Disabled Not Broken]

 

Any ideas ?

This is my opinion...

 

Been dealing with Kundalini for over 21 years...

 

You are playing Tug_of_War..........and YOU are Holding BOTH Sides of the Rope

 

You are your best friend, and your own worst enemy

 

Eventually, this rope you are playing with, will either....

 

• 
   
  
• bind you
  
• hang you
  
• or be an escape ladder to the heavens
  

 

No matter what you seek, externally

 

Is temporary

 

Stop jerking your Rope

Edited July 25, 2012 by Disabled Not Broken

[Birch]

Don't fight what yourself wants to become in a misguided attempt to return to 'normalcy'.

There are many different ways to make love in this universe, and you can use those new centers of 'sexual heat' to magnetize and enthrall women as well. Chicks dig that heart love reactor you're developing.

Exactly. See my comment in the porn thread. And if a chick digs your energy she will make sure you don't suffer on the lust/libido front. Just saying:-)

[三江源]

Find something else to do with yourself while your libido is reassembling.

 

Opportunity to have a wider menu of response to the world. Enjoy.

[konchog uma]

yeah and don't be embarrased by changes in energy. That stuff happens to everyone. Fluctuations are part of nature's cycles.

 

I notice your approach to yourself to be very demanding like "i must have this right now" and "this other thing is totally unacceptable" and so on. Well life doesn't really give a crap about that sort of attitude, its going to give you what you need, what you have karmically earned, however you want to look at it, this thing has its own agenda and our personal desires about what we deserve don't really matter. Not one bit. The sooner you can loosen up with that approach, and accept life on life's terms, the happier and better off you will be. Not really trying to bust your chops, but i have to say... anyway hope it helps.

[Jetsun]

Do you do much normal exercise like running? that is probably the best thing

 

There is a meditation which can reignite sex drive but if you have Kundalini problems such things should probably be avoided unless you can handle meditations ok? there are Sufi breathing exercises too but I don't know enough about Kundalini to know what is safe to recommend.

[mike 134]

Ummmm..... its not just libido thats going down, my overall capacity to feel pleasure and appreciate things is down too, like I just don't give a damn all of a sudden. For instance today I was out and saw this nice expensive sports car on the road, but I basically ignored it. In the past I would have been like, hot damn what a sweet ride, I wonder how much $$$ it is, oh that engine sounds so smooooooth, etc. But today I would not even have noticed it if somebody else didn't point the car out to me. I was also at a restaurant eating some pretty delicious food; usually I like to eat slowly and savor such things, but today I found myself just wolfing everything down and not caring about taste or texture.

 

So what the hell is going on with me? I know my kundalini energy level is not "low", hell its burning up my head and heart as I speak, but its not doing anything beneficial to me being in those areas. Its not like I suddenly got smarter by its presence in my head, quite the opposite; my intelligence has decreased greatly. That's also bothering the hell out of me; I used to have a super sharp and inquisitive intellect; my mind is always darting from here to there, thinking, contemplating, wondering. If anything is interesting or out of the ordinary I would immediately notice it and think about it, and damn can I think deeply. But now I kind of just stare ahead of me oblivious of my surroundings like I don't give a damn about anything.

 

Will these things come back to me one day? Seriously it would suck so bad if this were permanent. Why live if you can't enjoy life??? Isn't K supposed to be the life force, not the force of boring, bland listlessness ???

 

Jetsun, it was over-exercise which caused my K in the first place. I am gradually resuming my routine. What meditation are you talking about ? Usually I wouldn't do this but if it can make me feel pleasure and sex again I'd do it. I wouldn't think it would be complicated either cause as I said earlier I imagined energy draining from the head and heart back down to the sexual organs, and it worked, but only once. Maybe I'm doing it wrong the second time?

 

Chicks are NOT digging my energy, hell if anything this kundalini process directly led to the loss of my job, my ability to make $$$, and my social position, so it makes it tough with women.

 

Stop jerking my rope? Uh its kind of tough to start these days

 

Whats a mind monkey?

 

Thanks guys.

Edited July 25, 2012 by mike 134

[thelerner]

Stop jerking my rope? Uh its kind of tough to start these days

 

Whats a mind monkey?

mind monkey = monkey mind sometimes wild horse or Ox mind, its when your thoughts run wild and it seems you have no control of them.

 

Glen Morris who taught a Kundalini system mentioned in one of his books that Kundalini gave him a better memory but made him worse at trivia games because trivia and unimportant things were finally 'filed' properly in his mind and no longer took up valuable room.

 

Spirituality 101 is having a quiet mind, you seem to be getting there, somewhat unwillingly. Its a change, but spiritually speaking, its one for the better.

 

As we get older we put away childish things. LOOK shiny SPORTCAR. LOOK SQUIRREL.

[idiot_stimpy]

If you're masturbating at all, stop and see if this makes a difference.

[mike 134]

thelerner: thx for explaining that to me. That sounds a lot like one of my earlier symptoms, "racing thoughts", damn that was horrible one of the worse symptoms you can have IMO. Glad that one's gone! And I know this sounds blasphemous but I don't really have any spiritual goals I had zero spiritual dimension in my life prior to this. Dude I'm in my mid 20's I wanna enjoy fine things in life not look at it with the attitude of a prude or an old man.

 

jconnar: until very recently I was able to do it many times a day and still can't get enough. Hell if I skip even one day I feel turbocharged, my head filled with lust. Going a week without is like torture. But I haven't done it for the last week and I feel so bland and boring since the desire is just not there.

 

Help!!!

Edited July 25, 2012 by mike 134

[thetaoiseasy]

to be honest, if you want to get "it" back, start having a lot of sex and masturbate a lot. definitely don't retain.

 

our bodies are energy fields. how you arrange your energy fields determines your destiny. the basic mechanics of your energy field is this.

 

Your energy starts at the abdomen, rises to the heart, and then goes to the head. The analogy is that the abdomen is the earth, the heart the human sphere, and the head is the heavens. the abdomen corresponds to your sexual energy, the heart the emotional center, and the head corresponds to spirituality.

 

 

and honestly, from i gather, you want to live in the earth and less as a human and even less as a spiritually aware person. that's your choice. most people live like this anyhow. but it's quite easy to do. read on.

 

here's your highway to hell.

 

there is a saying in chinese medicine. when your sexual energy is full, you don't want to have sex. sounds paradoxical right? well, it works like this.

 

when your sexual energy in the abdomen is full--that is, when you don't have a lot of sex-- energy builds up in the abdomen and eventually spills over into higher energy centers. as there is more energy in the higher centers, you don't want to have sex. you'll focus on your emotional and spiritual health.

 

there is another saying chinese medicine. the more you have sex, the more you want it. well, what happens when you have a lot of sex is that your energy is constantly being depleted. so your energy never gets to build up in the other higher centers. the energy remains in the abdomen, at best. result? you want sex all the time, because your energy is so low. you'll also want to eat all the time.

 

conclusion? have a lot of sex. eat more meat. exercise less. don't let any energy build up to spill into the higher centers. you'll live a hellish life, but each to their own.

 

the fact is, the secret of tao is this. you are what you do. want to be a sexual giant? you know what to do.

 

but remember. resources are never unlimited.

Edited July 25, 2012 by thetaoiseasy

[mike 134]

don't let any energy build up to spill into the higher centers. you'll live a hellish life

 

heh, you got that one right. That actually kind of makes sense, thanks for explaining it to me like you did. But before that weird heart thing happened if I go days without action the desire goes up and up??? Anyway, I'm gonna work myself up and get some action Not sure about skipping physical exercise though that's really important to me, not fit = no action

Edited July 25, 2012 by mike 134

[C T]

Once in a while, people get to experience, metaphorically speaking, what it is like to be in the center of the cyclone... and they get perturbed by the utter stillness. Being unable to comprehend this new-found state, the normal, reflex act would be to mentally dart here and there, simply to try to regain equilibrium, or to try to make sense of the n'er-before-experienced stillness. Instead of releasing into this stillness, they grasp at what was, shun what will be, thus compelled by the imagination to miss that which is.

 

Watch this watermelon... something might click for you... (or not)

 

[thetaoiseasy]

Thanks for reading,

 

Best,

 

Taoiseasy

Edited July 19, 2013 by thetaoiseasy

[Birch]

Yeah, right now you're a bit all over the place (see watermelon, above).

I'd say PM Hundun and/or Prince, just thought of those guys.

[konchog uma]

Ummmm..... its not just libido thats going down, my overall capacity to feel pleasure and appreciate things is down too, like I just don't give a damn all of a sudden. For instance today I was out and saw this nice expensive sports car on the road, but I basically ignored it. In the past I would have been like, hot damn what a sweet ride, I wonder how much $$$ it is, oh that engine sounds so smooooooth, etc. But today I would not even have noticed it if somebody else didn't point the car out to me.

 

sounds like a step in the right direction to me. Maybe your previous interests are going to be replaced by interests that involve things you actually Can take with you when you die. Who knows how these things work... i wish the best for you.

 

Will these things come back to me one day? Seriously it would suck so bad if this were permanent. Why live if you can't enjoy life??? Isn't K supposed to be the life force, not the force of boring, bland listlessness ???

 

most likely you will find that in time, maybe months, maybe years, you will be a much more balanced, functional, and energetic person than you were before your kundalini awoke. Remember that nothing is permanent. No-thing. Relax, there are a lot of reasons to live that transcend sensual enjoyments, most of them highly worthwhile. As i said, i imagine that your previous worldly interests and need for sense gratification is going to be replaced with a sense of spiritual inquisitiveness and deeper quest for your place and purpose in life. But nobody can say until it happens, thats just a tendancy with K.

 

Chicks are NOT digging my energy, hell if anything this kundalini process directly led to the loss of my job, my ability to make $$$, and my social position, so it makes it tough with women.

 

Kundalini is understood as the raw buddha-nature, the shakti of the godhead, the holy spirit, it is not without intention for your life and the realization of it's purpose. It may not care about that job, your social position, or how successful you are at dating for a transformational interim. It probably doesn't care about this incarnation of you as much as it cares about the long-term development of your spirit. But i think it always cares about your personal progress and your soul's evolution. I hope you can rest in faith and trust in that and not worry about fancy cars and sex too much. I understand that the change youre going through is very challenging. I think the best thing you can do is work with it constructively and optimistically. For example, re-evaluate your life while you have the opportunity between jobs, and take the challenge on as something that you are blessed to have the opportunity to do. Resenting it and demanding that things be otherwise seems natural, but it really only makes your path harder. There are many people on TTB that have a lot of empathy for what youre going through and will continue to help and support your growth as time goes on. (i went through years of hell myself, and only realized that the reason i was so crazy was K earlier this year. if i had known, i could have worked with it skillfully but i wasn't blessed like that. anyway... now i am grateful for everything including the ruthless nature of mother kundalini's cleansing) Good luck to you, my best wishes are with you.

Edited July 26, 2012 by anamatva

[kevincann]

Hi people !

 

I suddenly improved again the last three days and managed to get off sedating medication for kundalini (again). So I'm not thinking about terminating it anymore at this point, but another problem has taken its place which is quite frankly embarrassing. I'm wondering if anybody here has experience with this and can offer any solutions.

 

I've always been hypersexual. Sex, hitting on girls, thinking of sex, watching porn, whatever, it's a major, MAJOR part of my life. I dont recall ever losing interest in sex, even after working the overnight shift and being dead tired I'm always up for some action. Heck even when im finished I want more ! And I'm okay with it cause it's the way I always have been since I was a kid, yes, a kid.

 

When I started having kundalini problems a year ago my sex drive did not change at first. But then a couple of weeks ago I started having intense heat in various parts of my body, and one night I felt it going past my heart, like a river of fiery lava which pierced it. Ever since that one moment my sex drive has plummeted. It happened practically instantly; the very next day I found myself simply not interested in women anymore ! At first I didn't care too much cause I was still dealing with other symptoms like insomnia and agitation, but now that these are disappearing (at least for the last few days ), I'm really starting to notice the loss of libido.

 

When I'm out and I encounter hot girls, I immediately approach them and try to get their number, my head swirling in lust. But now I just walk past them altogether, and sometimes I don't even notice the women around me. I tried looking at porn, but I found it boring. WTF?!! I used to be able to sit for hours enthralled at the endless throng of hot women dancing across the screen. I have NEVER in my life found porn boring. But now it's simply not as pleasurable anymore, and a lot of the lust in my mind is gone. They say men think about sex every seven seconds, but I have hardly thought of it at all the last few weeks.

 

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbPN2gOsil_k&v=bPN2gOsil_k&gl=US

 

I know some of you think this may be desirable, but I'm a single guy in my 20's and i absolutely need my sexual powers functioning at 100%. Right now I have heat in the head and heart. I speculate that sexual energy is being diverted to those areas, so there is less energy left over for actual sex. So I tried to combat this by imagining energy going out of my head and heart and into the lower abdomen and sex organs. It actually worked the first time I tried this a couple of days ago, and the lust and pleasure returned. But the next day it All appeared again and this trick no longer works. So now what do I do ? Any ideas ? Thanks guys !

 

In Kundalini yoga traditions the point is made, that the sexual energy is a dual-purpose energy.

It's also the drain plug.

 

If you don't do anything else with it, excess energy gets converted into sexual energy.

 

Now Kundalini is a hoglet. She not only grabs every last ounce of sexual energy if She can,

She converts subtle biological essences such as hormones, neurotransmitters, and various other

things She harvests from the nervous system and body. These components are required to bolster

the physical nervous system, to prevent the energy component from frying your brain.

 

If Kundalini goes far enough and you fight it, and blast semen all over the room, and if She's

stubborn enough, you will eventually feel burning all over your body; you will experience brain

damage. I'm not joking. I've helped answer letters written by people who have done this to

themselves. Hell, I almost did this to myself when I was much younger.

 

Now, I must say, you are triply screwed, from your perspective.

 

Once Kundalini pierces your heart, she is unstoppable. Just like you want sex, She does too;

and she gets her Freak on, by boning 'Shiva' in your heart and your brain. That is as low

in your energy system He will go to meet Her, until stage 2 or stage 3 of an awakening.

 

The other responders are right; you can pile on heavy food, nasty meat, etc.

 

If you are really hard up for sex and want to spit in Her face (that's your business, it's not

my business),

 

you can at least practice semen retention and whole body orgasms. You can eventually get where you

can have lots of sex and still retain semen. This will also build up your sex drive. There's also

some good Tantra out there you may want to read. But she will still steal every last bit of both

the energy and the physical essences that she can. You might only be able to have sex once a week.

 

In a grim way I find this funny. There are tens of millions of people in India that would cut off

their left nut to get what you don't want.

 

I know a hundred Americans probably, that would give away their house to the poor to have what

you don't want.

 

I myself obey Her implicitly.

 

Good luck my friend,

 

Kev

[Disabled Not Broken]

In Kundalini yoga traditions the point is made, that the sexual energy is a dual-purpose energy.

It's also the drain plug.

 

If you don't do anything else with it, excess energy gets converted into sexual energy.

 

Now Kundalini is a hoglet. She not only grabs every last ounce of sexual energy if She can,

She converts subtle biological essences such as hormones, neurotransmitters, and various other

things She harvests from the nervous system and body. These components are required to bolster

the physical nervous system, to prevent the energy component from frying your brain.

 

If Kundalini goes far enough and you fight it, and blast semen all over the room, and if She's

stubborn enough, you will eventually feel burning all over your body; you will experience brain

damage. I'm not joking. I've helped answer letters written by people who have done this to

themselves. Hell, I almost did this to myself when I was much younger.

 

Now, I must say, you are triply screwed, from your perspective.

 

Once Kundalini pierces your heart, she is unstoppable. Just like you want sex, She does too;

and she gets her Freak on, by boning 'Shiva' in your heart and your brain. That is as low

in your energy system He will go to meet Her, until stage 2 or stage 3 of an awakening.

 

The other responders are right; you can pile on heavy food, nasty meat, etc.

 

If you are really hard up for sex and want to spit in Her face (that's your business, it's not

my business),

 

you can at least practice semen retention and whole body orgasms. You can eventually get where you

can have lots of sex and still retain semen. This will also build up your sex drive. There's also

some good Tantra out there you may want to read. But she will still steal every last bit of both

the energy and the physical essences that she can. You might only be able to have sex once a week.

 

In a grim way I find this funny. There are tens of millions of people in India that would cut off

their left nut to get what you don't want.

 

I know a hundred Americans probably, that would give away their house to the poor to have what

you don't want.

 

I myself obey Her implicitly.

 

Good luck my friend,

 

Kev

Bingo!

[mike 134]

re: ana, kev

 

ehhh.... I hear what you guys are saying and appreciate the kind words but really this kind of life is not for me. I don't want to keep bitching more cause it looks bad so I'll shut up for now.

 

I tried this weird trick halfheartedly this morning that may just have worked, I can't get too excited yet until I reproduce it full-scale... I'll try it again and let you guys know what happened.

[mike 134]

err. accidentally posted twice

Edited July 26, 2012 by mike 134

[Edward M]

Ya Know, i'd say this is a case of energy sickness caused by excessive loss of essence, and not kundalini.

 

Mike, all i can say to you is think about the long term. Do you want to risk going bald early, premature ejaculation, having a hard time maintaining wood by the time you are thirty?

 

Over doing now can deplete the yin of the kidneys and cause this... when the yin is low it cannot hold the yang, which is the active energy you seem to be addicted to right now.

 

Also think of this,, what you are chasing after is some sort of satisfaction, but this kind of satisfaction never lasts, like you say, once it's over you want more... the only satisfaction/contentment that lasts is being content with what you have now and not letting things bother you including lusts, desires and other thoughts feelings etc... this can't be done if you exhaust yourself because you need a strong mind to be able to be like that.

 

Whacking off to porn causes a severe stress response in the human being meaning release of lots of harmful stress hormones that age the body and mind. So you can have a big spike of fun now,, but believe me when you hit thirty you might just regret doing so.. it will effect your cycling as well...

 

Not meaning to be all doom and gloom here, just hoping you will consider the long term.

 

No offence intended.

 

Peace

[RiverSnake]

You have receive a lot of good advice from many people. I'll just say this:

 

I have not personally gone through "K".....however my understanding is that knowing when to "SURRENDER" is a very important virtue in this area. If what kevincann says is true and that it's too late to stop your "K"...then my understanding is that if you continue to resist the process then you are going to put yourself through an enormous amount of unnecessary pain and suffering.

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

[kevincann]

Ya Know, i'd say this is a case of energy sickness caused by excessive loss of essence, and not kundalini.

 

Mike, all i can say to you is think about the long term. Do you want to risk going bald early, premature ejaculation, having a hard time maintaining wood by the time you are thirty?

 

Over doing now can deplete the yin of the kidneys and cause this... when the yin is low it cannot hold the yang, which is the active energy you seem to be addicted to right now.

 

Also think of this,, what you are chasing after is some sort of satisfaction, but this kind of satisfaction never lasts, like you say, once it's over you want more... the only satisfaction/contentment that lasts is being content with what you have now and not letting things bother you including lusts, desires and other thoughts feelings etc... this can't be done if you exhaust yourself because you need a strong mind to be able to be like that.

 

Whacking off to porn causes a severe stress response in the human being meaning release of lots of harmful stress hormones that age the body and mind. So you can have a big spike of fun now,, but believe me when you hit thirty you might just regret doing so.. it will effect your cycling as well...

 

Not meaning to be all doom and gloom here, just hoping you will consider the long term.

 

No offence intended.

 

Peace

 

I was taking Mike at his word that Kundalini is indeed involved. The reason that I did this, is because

why not? And also Mike did use a specific term (piercing the heart) which is a specific phrase with a

specific meaning.

 

Now many people get all excited about various phenomenon and think that their 'Kundalini is rising'.

It's certainly possible that it is not, that in fact this is simple energy exhaustion.

 

Even just hormone and neurochemical exhaustion severely weakens the body. Yes, it is possible

to 'beat off yourself to death'. It does take years and years of practice though.

 

The primary focus being on sex and not on health is what concerns me the most; not whether it is

kundalini or energy exhaustion or just hormone/neurochemical exhaustion.

 

Some strange imbalance is racking Mike's body, possibly ruining his health for a lifetime, and Mike's

primary concern is how often he can get a boner.

 

I mean no disrespect brother.

 

I just feel empathy. I had a terrible, terrible sexual imbalance of my own for years.

 

-Kev