Orgasm Without Ejaculation

[kundakiss]

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[kundakiss]

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[kundakiss]

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[DalTheJigsaw123]

Porn meditation. Its nice to meet a similar fucking minded person lol.

 

Reaching a meditative present minded awareness state during sex can be dull. Yet, when you learn to allow and handle the energies as they come and go, and allow them to flow upwards and all over the place? Baby boom bang smash. Your life will turn upside down.

 

I like that!!

[Everything]

Love is like a non stop non-ejaculatory whole body orgasm with a never ending peak of pleasure that eternally does not come to an end and grows into higher and higher peaks of pleasure and excitement and joy; multiplied to infinity to the power of infinity to eternity.

Edited August 2, 2012 by Everything

[konchog uma]

A master I know once said that "relationship between disciples leads to hell". The blind leading the blind. Since you are not a realized master, I simply suggested to you that you do not pass opinions as fact. "It COULD happen, rather than it WILL happen." The former leaves openness, the latter closes all doors." Who's the one with the full cup?

 

Take care!

 

so wait, you think you're better than the rest of us bums, and only accept the relationship of "realized masters" but im the one with the full cup? holy crap theres not even a logical fallacy for that, thats just a logic fail. epic.

 

btw, i didnt say anything "will" happen.

 

again, good luck with your practices.

[kundakiss]

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Edited December 28, 2014 by kundakiss

[dwai]

im with you joeblast %100

 

practice like that deepens a need for external stimulus (porn imagery) in spite of attempts to proclaim ones lack of attachment to it. One can accomplish even higher levels of energetic cultivation without watching porn, higher because they depend on nothing but breath and the pervasive universal source of life energy, two things you are guaranteed access to for the duration of your life.

Isnt it better to find a partner who will practice these techniques with you? So you actually fet to balance the yin and yang, instead of the overdose of yang...imagery that stimulates the sensory organs...yang on yang. I do hope tht the op's objective is balance...

[FieryWind]

These questions are directed to the OP; Have you tried to stop looking at porn/erotic images for at least a day, two a weeks or over a year?

 

Can you go a day or more without a want to feel the pleasure associated to sexual stimulation, whether it be physical or psychological?

[Creation]

I wonder how people's reactions would be different if OP had said he spent an hour every day meditating in the presence of a live couple having loving, conscious, and passionate sex.

 

There is a precedent for that type of thing in left hand Taoist and Tantric circles. Using porn seems to me to just be a sort of shortcut to do the same type of thing. Suboptimal, yes, but Taoist sex cults are in short supply.

 

If obstacles do arise, you treat them just as you do in your morning routine, send them straight to your subconscious, let it awaken the emotional energy, let it passively travel upward. And done. Emotional emprint dissolved. I say "and done" but it is extremely painful for the ego, and depending on the obstacle, can still awaken many thoughts that will unsuccessfully attempt to create turmoil (It may also take several obstacles due to the layers of the same emotional imprint. Don't worry. Life provides all obstacles you need ) Finally, when all of this inner emotional tension is dissolved and there is complete purity and equanimity, then you simply sit down, and pass into samadhi.

 

It is safe, but yes intense, and requires a lot of prerequisites in other matters and methods.

 

What interests me about your description of your practices is the notion that you have created a sort of pathway to use intense, primal energies as fuel to dissolve blocks. I have always intuitively felt this should be possible. Would you be willing to go into more detail about the progression of practices and skill development you went through to accomplish this?

 

I also wonder if, having established this pathway, you have sought a way to get the same benefit without using porn. I personally would be worried about my ability to interact with a real live woman getting warped through such a routine.

Edited August 5, 2012 by Creation

[FieryWind]

"I wonder how people's reactions would be different if OP had said he spent an hour every day meditating in the presence of a live couple having loving, conscious, and passionate sex.

 

There is a precedent for that type of thing in left hand Taoist and Tantric circles. Using porn seems to me to just be a sort of shortcut to do the same type of thing. Suboptimal, yes, but Taoist sex cults are in short supply."

 

Regular normal couples have a more natural relationship, porn couple relationships are artificial and exaggerated, they are designed to provoke desire in the viewer. They are simply not the same thing.

 

Sex is a sacred act between lovers, with it one can reach the heights of a God or the depths of a Demon, of course nowadays, the natural sexual expression has been lost to desire and abuse.

Edited August 5, 2012 by FieryWind

[shaolin]

Whether its observing actual real couples or porn, it has the same effect. Most sexual activities done for dual cultivation in taoist circles were not based on monogomous, deep love filled relationships, it was done by people who agreed to engage in sexual dual cultivation. watching live people have sex or watching it in a recorded form does the same thing - arouse desire, excite jing, and allow the observer to practice big draw and then circulate the micro cosmic orbit. Once this was practiced, one would then develop enough skill to move on to dual cultivation with a woman.

 

Its accepted that there are pros and cons, it may suit some people and not others, but this fact applies to everything. That is the balance that exists in everything and by experiencing the effects, one can decide if it benefits them or not.

[Creation]

Regular normal couples have a more natural relationship, porn couple relationships are artificial and exaggerated, they are designed to provoke desire in the viewer. They are simply not the same thing.

 

Sex is a sacred act between lovers, with it one can reach the heights of a God or the depths of a Demon, of course nowadays, the natural sexual expression has been lost to desire and abuse.

I agree with you on this. But it seemed to me that people who objected to oodjee's practice were only objecting to the use of porn. So I though it would be useful to separate the discussion into two issues:

1. The use of porn

2. Everything else.

Quite honestly I am much more interested in discussing 2, knowing all too well about the pitfalls of pornography.

Edited August 5, 2012 by Creation

[kundakiss]

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[Creation]

Avoid "American Porn" whole-heartedly . I prefer French, or something else European, or something directed by a woman, where true tenderness and passion is captured as well.

Ah, you use classy porn! That clears up the last of the seeming contradictions about your posts.

 

Thank you for sharing your path with us. I, for one, am glad to have read what you have written.

[kundakiss]

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Edited December 28, 2014 by kundakiss

[Humble]

Not meaning to sound insulting here but when you say:

 

FYI, I used to be a sex/porn addict. So at first there was so much urge and horniness while attempting this. But after 1.5 years, I find the practice very easy. My awareness embraces all the porn and sex, and my body no longer feels like it lacks the sensation. So, it no longer seems to crave it much

 

It sounds more like youve simply found a new and shiny rationalilzation for your addiction. One that comes in a great wrapper since it smacks of spirituality and "higher developement" and how could THAT be a bad thing? But in reality its kind of like saying "I used to be a heroin addict but im not now since I only shoot up in Church."

Im not judging, but since youve admitted addiction you should strongly consider that use of your addictive sunstance is in no way good for you.

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Edited December 28, 2014 by kundakiss