Raz Posted September 8, 2012 You are reading these words. How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? This from the stand point of; for every truth, the opposite is equally true... awareness is within all, awareness is within nothing.... Namaste =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Protector Posted September 8, 2012 AAAAAAAAAH!!! AAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Oh wait, the words don't have any memory, let's read again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 8, 2012 You are reading these words. How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? This from the stand point of; for every truth, the opposite is equally true... Namaste =) You do know that I do not buy into that, don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Protector Posted September 8, 2012 You do know that I do not buy into that, don't you? You've said that on a bunch of random topics but I have never seen you make an actual list of things so people would know beforehand 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Posted September 8, 2012 You do know that I do not buy into that, don't you? true, and on another level you do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Posted September 8, 2012 AAAAAAAAAH!!! AAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Oh wait, the words don't have any memory, let's read again... there is no memory, only one unfolding moment... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 8, 2012 You've said that on a bunch of random topics but I have never seen you make an actual list of things so people would know beforehand Things I don't belive in: Oh!, never mind! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 8, 2012 How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? Namaste =) Words do reflect the personality of the author. Yes, that's what I had been doing reading the personality of the author but not their words..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 8, 2012 Words do reflect the personality of the author. Yes, that's what I had been doing reading the personality of the author but not their words..... I sometimes think that is true. Hehehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 8, 2012 I sometimes think that is true. Hehehe. ahhhh... I see that you are doing the same thing too. hehehehe.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humble Posted September 9, 2012 If the words read you,,,,what are the emoticons up to? They just sit there,,,staring,,, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 9, 2012 ,,,,what are the emoticons up to? They just sit there,,,staring,,, So you want them to jump up and down? (Actually, one cannot jump down unless one is upside down.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamond Spectrum Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) “Words are a pretext. It is the inner bond that draws one person to another, not words.” -Rumi “Not only the thirsty seek the water, the water as well seeks the thirsty.” -Rumi Edited September 9, 2012 by Diamond Spectrum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XieJia Posted September 10, 2012 You are reading these words. How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? This from the stand point of; for every truth, the opposite is equally true... awareness is within all, awareness is within nothing.... Namaste =) when two equally reflects; knowledge is clear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Posted September 10, 2012 “Words are a pretext. It is the inner bond that draws one person to another, not words.” -Rumi “Not only the thirsty seek the water, the water as well seeks the thirsty.” -Rumi Loved these quotes =) So the words seek the writer as much as the writer seeks the words =) when two equally reflects; knowledge is clear The wisdom in these words are clear... Thank you for sharing them =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) You are reading these words. How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? This from the stand point of; for every truth, the opposite is equally true... awareness is within all, awareness is within nothing.... Namaste =) The words arent reading me , since I wouldnt have said they were. No the opposite of truth isnt an equal truth, saying 'up is down is wordplay' , it doesnt enable effective behavior, since the innate traits of materials and forces are not subject to your personal perspective. Stosh Edited September 11, 2012 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Posted September 11, 2012 The words arent reading me , since I wouldnt have said they were. No the opposite of truth isnt an equal truth, saying 'up is down is wordplay' , it doesnt enable effective behavior, since the innate traits of materials and forces are not subject to your personal perspective. Stosh Thanks for the reply =) I agree that there is practical truth that is used in day to day living. up and down is all depending on where you are standing, and that is changing with the rotation of the world. In my experience, there is awareness in everything, even words. it is true that they are reading me and it is true that they are not. The *now* is full of contradicting truth in all of its cosmic dimension. Zoom in on reality and the law on how things work changes. Zoom out and it is a total other set of truths. You inhabit a male or female body, zoom out and you will find that you are male and female at the same time, zoom out even more and you will find that you are everybody and everything. I´m speaking from a near death experience, but I am open to it being all wrong and I´m not asking anybody to believe from my experience. I hope only to inspire openness in a question of reality assumptions, nothing else... The lessons that I choose to share in my posts are entirely my own. They are not meant to imply some kind of superior knowledge. Vibe with what resonates with you or view it as entertainment =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted September 11, 2012 One can visualize all sorts of things, one can shift perspective and see things differently , theres nothing wrong in that in and of itself , the problem is that in order to be functional one must choose a perspective that will actually work , one that informs rather than boggles. You put your pants on the same way I do , that is to say that you behave in a way that indicates you have the same expectations of gravity that I do.The figurative speech is fun but there is a point at which it is really just obfuscating a rational view of the world. there are folks that believe in turning invisible and levitating and all sorts of weirdness .I am just attempting to be the boring voice of rationality . Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) One can visualize all sorts of things, one can shift perspective and see things differently , theres nothing wrong in that in and of itself , the problem is that in order to be functional one must choose a perspective that will actually work , one that informs rather than boggles. You put your pants on the same way I do , that is to say that you behave in a way that indicates you have the same expectations of gravity that I do.The figurative speech is fun but there is a point at which it is really just obfuscating a rational view of the world. there are folks that believe in turning invisible and levitating and all sorts of weirdness .I am just attempting to be the boring voice of rationality . Stosh True, it is important to be grounded in the reality we mainly reside. I do believe it is only a matter of time until that reality changes and then I believe it helps us to be open to that change, making it easier in finding our balance within the evolving rules. Edited September 11, 2012 by Raz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XieJia Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) @Raz, lets continue with the wordplay. who do one see when one looks at the mirror? what do one reads when one is reading words? now take away the mirror, take away the words. where does that answer gone? @Stosh If what one sees is but what one visualises, If what one reads is but what of one's own perspectives. when one can shred that those concepts, is it not breaking free? Edited September 11, 2012 by XieJia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) XieJia Sorry , false premise there what one sees is part what one is experiencing via their senses and part the preconceptions one has what one reads is part what has been written , and part what one interprets Shredding all those concepts destroys both the present and the past would you choose to be free of both the present and the past ? would you free yourself of the tools you learned and earned? is a person free-er with tools as baggage or not? Do you not see all the threads before and aft folks aiming to learn , attempting to acquire skills and answers? Others posting, well intended , to share-dispense their own findings ? Actually , there is a lot of beauty to it Its human nature to try and extend out to others and the really crazy beautiful thing about it is that so many folks wish to GIVE away what they have earned-learned! Stosh Edited September 11, 2012 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted September 11, 2012 True, it is important to be grounded in the reality we mainly reside. I do believe it is only a matter of time until that reality changes and then I believe it helps us to be open to that change, making it easier in finding our balance within the evolving rules. Ive read and believe that it is the Tao which is that which does not change Therefore the rules which have never changed , never will , so casting doubt upon oneself about it would be contraindicated. ( unless you are talking about death , and neither you nor I really have a basis to make comment ) Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
et-thoughts Posted September 11, 2012 You are reading these words. How do you feel about knowing that the words are equally reading you? This from the stand point of; for every truth, the opposite is equally true... awareness is within all, awareness is within nothing.... Namaste =) Raz, I wonder if you realize that I read the words that I constructed based on the arrangements and stimulus I got stemming from what you did... "You are reading these words" is actually false I am reading the words I constructed in my mind (ideally they will correspond to the words you had in your mind) assuming that the words I read correspond to the words you wrote... is a big assumption... look up the conduit metaphor for an interesting read... I wonder what is the opposite stand point of the stand point you presented? for every truth, the opposite is equally true though it actually be false... Both the righteous and the charlatan(Liar) will claim "I tell the truth" and each will do honor to their state with the same identical statement... the righteous would be telling the truth and the liar would be telling a lie... I say make sure everyone is congruent with what they claim... those who argue against the truth evidently have no truth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Hello folks, only the blind can truly appreciate sight, just as only the deaf can truly appreciate sound. what most of us fail to appreciate is that are perspectives of the world are limited. I love to see how many people seem to understand it all, yet fail to realize that they can never have a complete perspective of the universe. to say it is a matter of perspective is a lie. the truth is that we can never know everything, the best we can hope for is too ocasionally get a glimpse of the truth. rules are ever changing. Nothing is ever static. we have known for awhile now that chaos rules supreme, yet within chaos there is order. the truth of the matter is that what we believe we understand is not actually fact but just our own belief. it's best not to have any beliefs at all, then you can really appreciate life. Aaron Edited September 11, 2012 by Aaron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XieJia Posted September 12, 2012 @Stosh Well, Sorry... I am merely just suggesting this thoughts sometimes, we all forgotten that in order to learn, something have to be unlearn. and sometimes, what we have already learnt in the past is the obstacle in learning in present. Happiness to you all, XJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
