Celestial Mandate given for Angels/Buddhas to Lock Down and remove freedoms/free will of demons/devils in this world.

[SunLover]

Democracy will always fail on a planet where there are both the angels/buddhas and devils/demons co-existing together. This is because the angels/buddhas are not interested in wealth and power and material desires but the devils/demons are only interested in wealth and power and material desires. In the end, the devils/demons will take over the planet while the angels/buddhas get to be the slaves.

 

Just look at the rich and powerful today. How many devils/demons are there who are running the heads of countries and corporations? Just look at the monks and nuns of this world. How many mons and nuns have to live a life of poverty while trying to remove themselves from the material life of marriage and jobs and bills and children? Look at how much suffering and sin which exists in this filthy world right now.

 

For angels/buddhas to co-exist together with demons/devils, there must be a celestial imperial totalitarian monarchy just like the heavens above us. The Tao is the head of the universe, followed by the three pure ones and then the jade emperor. Below the jade emperor lie lesser divinities and lesser gods. The demons/devils lie at the very bottom of the celestial hierachy.

 

As above so below. If the same amount of freedoms and free will is given to the demons/devils of this world and in the universe as well, such demons and devils will seek to invade heaven and upusrp the rightful celestial authority of the Tao, Three Pure Ones.and the Jade Emperor. Therefore the celestial mandate must and will be given for the angels/buddhas/guardians of this world to remove all freedoms and free will from the devils/devils of this world and in this universe.

Edited October 6, 2012 by SunLover

[SunLover]

I refer to the post listed on some other forum.

 

http://projectcamelotportal.com/forum/threads-by-kerry-cassidy/521-vision-of-tyranny#3649

 

I recently have heard that the Chinese are going to have a lot to do with the revaluation of the dinar. And that they are also heavily invested in the U.S. dollar. I also know that land has been sold to China within the U.S. and other countries that perhaps should not have been.

I have nothing against the great civilization of China. Or against the Chinese people. But I do not want to see the Communist Chinese insinuate themselves into the leadership of this country. And I do see the U.S. as the last battle ground for freedom on this planet. I believe this is where we must make a stand to see that the New World Order does not come to pass and this is where that hope must be held on to.

So while I see groups who are fighting for the right things such as a return to a true constitution and the real ideals of liberty and equality for all, I also see that freedom fighters are currently making deals with foreign governments, in order to break the hold of the Bush cabal. But I do not wish to see one cabal replaced by another even more insidious and repressive regime. I will stand up and be counted if that's what it takes to turn the tide. I see no reason to make deals with the devil in order to hold on to what freedom there is left.

Some may feel that freedom is a thing of the past here in the states. But I see it differently. I see it lives in the hearts and minds of a people who grew up with this as their creed and their conviction.

[thetaoiseasy]

??????????

 

What if you're a devil though? Please don't lock down my free will!!!

Edited October 6, 2012 by thetaoiseasy

[Protector]

So... the world is out of balance *rimshot*

[SunLover]

In any form of human government which has existed on this world since the dawn of mankind, there has always been corrupted individuals who are only out to gain everything for themselves at the expense of others. In the monarchies of the past, the various ministers of state or lords/ladies of the land have always plotted against the King and Emperor because they do not want just one man to grab all the power for himself. In democracies it is even worse. The devils/demons created corporations and businesses which became so rich, powerful and pervasive that these corporations manage to control the government.

 

The US has always claimed to be the bastion of freedom but at whose expense? So far, I have yet to see any other country in the world who has wrecked so much damage upon this planet and cause hardships in numerous third world countries because of the american's desires for material goods. Untold number of citizens living in third world countries have had their lives ruined because the americans wanted to tap the natural resources of these third world countries to feed the neverending hunger for more material goods.

 

The so-called freedom of the US is in reality nothing more than the freedom to destroy and corrupt planet earth and humanity which is why the demons and devils of this world do not want their freedoms to be destroyed and culled. Humanity is not mature enough to handle complete freedoms especially when they are now gaining more and more access to spiritual powers which might not only destroy themselves but the world as well. So this is why a return to a celestial monarchy must be put in place where only the most evolved and enlighted person on this planet without any material desires at all will rule as king and emperor.

 

This way, the entire human race will transform into Super Gods in less than a twinkling of an eye with no demons/devils to obstruct humanity's ascension. The demons and devils of this world know they do not have the purity of being to handle the energies of purity which exist in the higher realms so they will do anything and everything to prevent humanity's ascension. This is the very reason why the demons and devils of this world must be locked up and culled like the animals which they are.

[SunLover]

??????????

 

What if you're a devil though? Please don't lock down my free will!!!

 

I know I am not a devil because I wish to totally eliminate all my material desires so that I will get out of Samsara and leave the filthy human race for good. Even devils and demons can transform into angels and buddhas if they wholeheartedly express the desire to remove all their material desires and express the wish to abandon Samsara forever.

[Aetherous]

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."

- Nietzsche

 

Personally, in general I'd rather let people have their free will. Even if they are demons. I don't claim full awareness, so maybe their actions are for the greater good. Maybe they just need some help...or can't help themselves in doing the wrong thing.

 

If "they" cross a certain line, I have no qualms with taking away their ability to do harm, out of compassion for others. If you feel like it's okay to take someone's life, then it must be okay for your life to be taken. If it's okay for you to steal from others, then it must be fine for others to steal from you.

 

This is precisely why we, as spiritual people who desire a happy life, should avoid imposing our will upon anyone else. We love our freedom, so in order to maintain it, we make sure others are free. We value a long life, so in order to get one, we protect others and help them to live well. We value our personal property, so we never take from anyone else.

 

Do unto others...

 

So if you want to be called a demon, and for people to hunt you down and take away your ability to impose your will on anyone else...then feel free to continue on your current course. If you want to help others there are better ways to do it...be a force of good in the world, rather than fighting fire with fire. Rather than going up against those who have been given power.

 

Edited October 6, 2012 by turtle shell

[Aetherous]

I know I am not a devil because I wish to totally eliminate all my material desires so that I will get out of Samsara and leave the filthy human race for good.

 

In my world view, that is precisely the definition of a devil.

[healingtouch]

The moment you touch meat, the moment you even look at someone else's wife or daughter, the moment you refuse to obey authority, you will be called a demon or be considered under the influence of one by most Taoist or Buddhist priests. Are you sure this is what you want?

 

And, while they may seem spiritual, most religions turn very materialistic and authoritarian as they desire to be the only ones who have the authority to dish out material benefits. And in practice, what happens is the priests become stinking rich, while the rest become slaves expected to work for free, as anything else would be a sin.

[idiot_stimpy]

But even the devils and demons are loved

[bakeneko]

Tulku...is that you?

[SunLover]

The moment you touch meat, the moment you even look at someone else's wife or daughter, the moment you refuse to obey authority, you will be called a demon or be considered under the influence of one by most Taoist or Buddhist priests. Are you sure this is what you want?

 

The only authority whom I will obey are the actual highest Buddha or highest Taoist divinities aka Gods themselves. I don't submit myself to any human being unless they provide humanity with immediate power and techniques to transform the entire human race into Gods at once. As far as I am concerned, the only human beings who are worthy of being the leaders of the human race are the hermits on the mountain who want nothing to do with samsara ever.

 

I am already a vegetarian. Whenever I look at women, I look at them with dispassion. The only authority whom I will obey are the right, proper, divine and virtous Godly authorities who can give me the key out of samsara at once. And I am talking about authorities who are Gods and not actual human beings. As I said before, no human being, especially any human being who is married and have children, is fit enough to be my leader or the leader of the human race.

 

Am I sure this is what I want? Absolutely.

 

And, while they may seem spiritual, most religions turn very materialistic and authoritarian as they desire to be the only ones who have the authority to dish out material benefits. And in practice, what happens is the priests become stinking rich, while the rest become slaves expected to work for free, as anything else would be a sin.

 

Any religion which is authoritarian for the right reasons aka stamping out materialism is the right religion. Any religion whose religious leaders engage in material desires while forbidding its followers to do so is the wrong religion. As I said before, no human being is fit enough to be the leaders of this planet. Leadership of this planet must be filled by multi-dimensional gods or at least by humans who have the power and will and motivation to transform the whole of humanity into Gods at once.

 

The kind of religion which you talked about where the priests get stinking rich while the followers work as slaves is no different from the slave-owner and slaves of a corporation and those kind of material organizations are the complete opposite of what I am looking for.

Edited October 6, 2012 by SunLover

[SunLover]

In my world view, that is precisely the definition of a devil.

 

Your world view is the world view of a demon and it is very common for demons to call angels "devils".

 

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."

- Nietzsche

 

I will rather be a monster fighting in the service of God than to be a devil/demon indulging in material desires. Angels/Buddhas can be bigger monsters than any devil/demon in the whole of existence because they are fighting in the service of God.

 

Personally, in general I'd rather let people have their free will. Even if they are demons. I don't claim full awareness, so maybe their actions are for the greater good. Maybe they just need some help...or can't help themselves in doing the wrong thing.

 

The actions and thoughts of every human being affect the energetic field of planet earth as a whole. If more than 80% of the world's population for eg express the wish not to return to God, then the higher divine authorities will not open the gates to the Kingdom of God and humanity will never experience God Realization as a race. All of us influence humanity to one extent or another, even babies influence humanity to a degree or another.

 

If "they" cross a certain line, I have no qualms with taking away their ability to do harm, out of compassion for others. If you feel like it's okay to take someone's life, then it must be okay for your life to be taken. If it's okay for you to steal from others, then it must be fine for others to steal from you.

 

This is precisely why we, as spiritual people who desire a happy life, should avoid imposing our will upon anyone else. We love our freedom, so in order to maintain it, we make sure others are free. We value a long life, so in order to get one, we protect others and help them to live well. We value our personal property, so we never take from anyone else.

 

Do unto others...

 

First of all, let get this straight. Whatever we have in life, our intelligence, our free will, our property, our wives/husbands, our children, our cars, our houses and property, our countries, our world do not belong to us ever. They belong to the higher dimensional divinities and gods who used their own innate spiritual power to create this world of illusion for us. As such, if the higher divinities and gods wish to take away anything from us including our free will and freedoms, these divinities and gods have a right to do so.

 

Are you going to fight with God or curse God just because God is going to take anything away from you? Then you will be a bigger demon/devil than I thought.

 

So if you want to be called a demon, and for people to hunt you down and take away your ability to impose your will on anyone else...then feel free to continue on your current course. If you want to help others there are better ways to do it...be a force of good in the world, rather than fighting fire with fire. Rather than going up against those who have been given power.

 

Any human on this planet is very welcome to hunt me down and take away my ability. Hell, they can take away my life if they want and I will be sure to thank them for it. I will thank them by making their lives hell and making sure they will suffer endless reincarnations as insects, pigs and all manner of filthy animals who live in the cess-pit without ever experiencing the opportunity to experience God Realization again.

 

Do you think that I have not been given power as well? I can be a bigger, much bigger monster than any demon/devil on this planet and I have no hesitation in becoming the biggest monster in the whole of existence because I know that I am serving God in all my actions. My loyalty and allegiance is NOT to the human race. My loyalty and allegiance is to the God himself and my only purpose in life is to let humaity experience permanent God Realization as a whole and to break humanity free of Samsara once and for all.

 

Any demon or devil who is foolish enough to want to stop me is very welcome to do so. They will know how much more terrible God can be if God wants to be more evil than Satan himself.

Edited October 6, 2012 by SunLover

[SunLover]

The moment you touch meat, the moment you even look at someone else's wife or daughter, the moment you refuse to obey authority, you will be called a demon or be considered under the influence of one by most Taoist or Buddhist priests. Are you sure this is what you want?

 

And, while they may seem spiritual, most religions turn very materialistic and authoritarian as they desire to be the only ones who have the authority to dish out material benefits. And in practice, what happens is the priests become stinking rich, while the rest become slaves expected to work for free, as anything else would be a sin.

 

In Japan, Ancient Japan, they have this system where the samurai warriors have to fulfill their responsibilities of serving as soldiers and warriors to their Damiyo. In return the Damiyo, has the responsibility of making sure their soldiers, warriors and even the lowest peasants are well-fed and looked after.

 

It is dishonourable for any samurai or even peasant to betray their Damiyo and the Damiyo has the divine right to cut the head off any traitor who dare to betray their Lord.

 

It is also dishonourable for the Damiyo to abuse any samurai or peasant by taking away the basic neccessities of life or to abuse any samurai or peasant without just reasons.

 

I may advocate taking away the freedoms and free will of the devils/demons on this planet but at the very least, I don't advocate treating such devils/demons like slaves. I will give them the basic neccessities of life, house, car, food. No demon or devil has to suffer like animals like how they have made the angels/buddhas of this world suffer like animals but I will be damned if I let any devil or demon have the power to run the show again.

 

God may be very merciful and kind but God also has his dark and evil side as well. No demon or devil can ever compare to the cruelty and evil of God if God will unleash his anger upon the world. I suggest the humans on this planet think very carefully about how God is in charge of all of our lives and how we need to obey God and put all our trust and faith in God like how the samurais of Ancient Japan obey their Damiyo and putting all their faith and trust in their Damiyo.

 

Amitabha.

Edited October 6, 2012 by SunLover

[Aetherous]

tulku,

 

Do you think that I have not been given power as well?

 

I definitely do not.

[SunLover]

tulku,

 

 

 

I definitely do not.

 

If that's the case, since you think I do not have the power, then I do not have to worry about others hunting me down and taking away any ability, do I?

[raimonio]

I started in the university this fall and we've had a few lectures about the political systems of this planet. I have a few questions. If this kind of a system were to take place who would be the one to decide who are the demons and who are the angels? Who would be wielding the power? Are you aware of the fact that his has been tried before around thousand times on this planet?

 

No totalitarian political system has ever worked without resulting in an even greater system of slavery and exploitation of the population. Although it may seems as this capitalist system we have now is the work of the demons, and I believe it is, it is still an improvement to the old slavery system. The point is that we are not angels and Buddhas, if you were to give totalitarian power to anyone it might work for a while, but eventually the demons would get in. Look what happened to the church, can't see no angelic touch in the holy wars and inquisition. Many wars have been fought in the name of god. The problem is that if we as people decide to have a totalitarian system of justice run by the angels and Buddhas, the demons will appear as ones and gain control.

 

Back to our capitalist system. Marx saw that our political system has gone from pre-communist society (the tribes where all was good) to feudal society (where the kings slaved the general populace and noone had a say against his will, there was no freedom of speach) to capitalism (where the fact that you are speaking like this in a forum and arent crusified is a miracle compared to the feudal society) and he theoretisized that the next step in the political evolution of man kind is to become a socialist society, after that an after-communist society (where we would be truly free). The thing is that the socialist countries in the world have not really been the kind of socialist countries that socialism was intentend to be. Instead they have been ruled by vicious dictators and basicly everything has been done the wrong way. This was not how Marx envisioned communism. I hope that Marx was right and we evolve into a working socialism/communism next.

 

But I must remind you that the fact that we are talking on this forum is a miracle, if you see how life has been for the past 5 thousand years. I think that for us to return into the original tribal system where everyone were equal it requires the mass-mind to gain more awareness, which I believe is happening. We will be going back to that system, but with greater knowledge and awareness, taught to us by the mistakes we have made in the duration of our recorded history. With the invention of the internet and free speech it is only a matter of time, the only thing that worries me is whether we will be fast enough. The planet is dying because of our behavior and we might wipe ourselves off before we've learned.

Edited October 6, 2012 by raimonio

[Protector]

tilku or not, the real problem here is that there are tulku like people out there. And if every person like this after tulku on the forum is different, then they start to show up at a kinda fast rate. Maybe tulku is raising a small army somewhere with one on one apprenticeship.

aaaaaaa that's so annoying

So does anyone with a lot of free time is going to take care of the tulku epidemic?

[Lindelani Mnisi]

Ok...anybody else think sunlover sounds like one of those bad guys in cartoons who want to 'show the world the light'. Like the pheonix king in Avatar and Pein and Madara in Naruto?

 

I for one think I'll just listen to my heart and soul, leave judgement to those who have the time and energy. I got faith in myself, be it I am a demon or angel, I'll just do what I feel is right with my soul, which is proving to the world that chi is real and what they do with it, is up to them. I just really hope a war doesn't break out though, but anything I start, I will finish.

 

You know Sunlover, i think I'm gonna base a cartoon character after you

[skydog]

lolol

 

humility

 

love

 

playfulness

Edited October 6, 2012 by sinansencer

[SunLover]

I started in the university this fall and we've had a few lectures about the political systems of this planet. I have a few questions. If this kind of a system were to take place who would be the one to decide who are the demons and who are the angels? Who would be wielding the power? Are you aware of the fact that his has been tried before around thousand times on this planet?

 

No totalitarian political system has ever worked without resulting in an even greater system of slavery and exploitation of the population. Although it may seems as this capitalist system we have now is the work of the demons, and I believe it is, it is still an improvement to the old slavery system. The point is that we are not angels and Buddhas, if you were to give totalitarian power to anyone it might work for a while, but eventually the demons would get in. Look what happened to the church, can't see no angelic touch in the holy wars and inquisition. Many wars have been fought in the name of god. The problem is that if we as people decide to have a totalitarian system of justice run by the angels and Buddhas, the demons will appear as ones and gain control.

 

Back to our capitalist system. Marx saw that our political system has gone from pre-communist society (the tribes where all was good) to feudal society (where the kings slaved the general populace and noone had a say against his will, there was no freedom of speach) to capitalism (where the fact that you are speaking like this in a forum and arent crusified is a miracle compared to the feudal society) and he theoretisized that the next step in the political evolution of man kind is to become a socialist society, after that an after-communist society (where we would be truly free). The thing is that the socialist countries in the world have not really been the kind of socialist countries that socialism was intentend to be. Instead they have been ruled by vicious dictators and basicly everything has been done the wrong way. This was not how Marx envisioned communism. I hope that Marx was right and we evolve into a working socialism/communism next.

 

But I must remind you that the fact that we are talking on this forum is a miracle, if you see how life has been for the past 5 thousand years. I think that for us to return into the original tribal system where everyone were equal it requires the mass-mind to gain more awareness, which I believe is happening. We will be going back to that system, but with greater knowledge and awareness, taught to us by the mistakes we have made in the duration of our recorded history. With the invention of the internet and free speech it is only a matter of time, the only thing that worries me is whether we will be fast enough. The planet is dying because of our behavior and we might wipe ourselves off before we've learned.

 

The angels will be the ones who decide to remove all their material desires and achieve permanent God Realization to the highest degree in their body, mind and soul. The demons and devils will be the ones who are too stubborn to let go of their material desires and their attachments to samsara. It is that simple. Only those who have removed all their material desires and achieve permanent God Realization will have the power to decide who are the angels and who are the devils.

 

For the past few thousand years, the demons and devils of this planet have enslaved the masses of this planet. What's even worse, when the angels and buddhas decide to sacrifice themselves by incarnating as a human being on this planet to teach the masses how to rise above common human suffering, the masses are foolish enough to be used by the demonic rulers of this planet to turn against spiritual teachers. Look at how the Vatican destroyed the Essenes and Jesus Christ. Look at how the Chinese destroyed their own Taoism spiritual guides and the Tibetan Buddhists. Look at how the Hindus destroyed Buddhism in India.

 

All over the world, the demons and devils have obtained the power to rule this planet simply because the angels and buddhas are too kind. They believe in fighting evil with love and choosing peace over war. Well the angels and buddhas are wrong. It is time for the angels and buddhas to become warriors and destroy the demons and devils for the evil they all are.

 

In the dimensions above us, what we have is a celestial monarchy. Where the Creator rules as the top honcho of the universe, the Tao and the three pure ones His immediate subordinates and various archangels and buddhas who served as the Creator's generals. The demons and devils were relegated to the lower dimensions and any demon or devil who seek to invade heaven would be destroyed by the angelic and buddhic guardians.

 

It is time for such angelic and buddhic guardians to become warriors here on earth as well by destroying the demons and devils of this planet. Love and Peace are only weapons which can go so far but when the weapons of Love and Peace prove useless, then the weapons of Courage and Justice will be unsheathed.

 

There are much worse problems than the human race being wiped out. If the wrong spiritual decisions are taken by the leadership of this planet, the entire divinity of the universe might be corrupted and I will do anything and everything to prevent the corruption and filth of this planet from leaking out into the universe and corrupting everything,

[SunLover]

Ok...anybody else think sunlover sounds like one of those bad guys in cartoons who want to 'show the world the light'. Like the pheonix king in Avatar and Pein and Madara in Naruto?

 

I for one think I'll just listen to my heart and soul, leave judgement to those who have the time and energy. I got faith in myself, be it I am a demon or angel, I'll just do what I feel is right with my soul, which is proving to the world that chi is real and what they do with it, is up to them. I just really hope a war doesn't break out though, but anything I start, I will finish.

 

You know Sunlover, i think I'm gonna base a cartoon character after you

 

I will finish everything regardless of who starts.

[skydog]

So one day I walked in to the bar, the bar dripped slowly into the effulgence of sun lovers wisdom, sun lovers wisdom smashed the kyboard and forgot he needed it to type then the planet gazed at the thin square lcd computer smellling both shit and sage, which reminds me I need a shower because I was drawing some leves but the ink went everywhere cool stuff though leaves, human race unsheathed said the pride said the anger said the fear said the seriousness said the future, said the time, me intefering, yes me intefering this guy probably is having a bad day, good lesson for me dont intefere so much though, the letter T and the letter H are close to each other on the keyboard seperated spermaninted by g or y they look like things but really there one, so there is always bad and good go together like black and white....fighting for peace like fucking for virginity, yang and yan water fire..so I looked into the white and everything was white, shit got to stay in the dantien empty...letting everything go, flowing like the wind around the tree and the earth every tree is interconnected like we all are to the trees, trees part of earth so birds, so people...black white, binary 10001110001001 ..., jk

[ragamor]

Haha, your so cute Lindelani Mnisi <3

Yes, your right

 

SunLover, I thank you for adding all this spice to this forum.

You sure have embraced the fire in your hearth.

 

To be honest SunLover, your right in many ways; peace, understanding and love is a fairywand, and cannot cut the rot of evil, just sparkle dust on these allready willing to open their eyes.

 

But it is also as sinansencer says, fighting for peace like fucking for virginity. It's a oxymoron.

 

How can all of humankin ever become enlightened when the enlightened never seek power to force change?

Why haven't the higher power given us the tools to fight evil? Why not give these on the right path invulnerability and laser eyes? Why not give these who have fallen to evil a true face of evil for all to see, and not just another human face?

 

I fear that Earth is a trial, a filter to the higher realms. Patience is the only tool we have.

 

 

 

Also SunLover, just for curiousity. What is God?

I was a atheist for many years so have my ignorance excused.

You refer to God a lot, is it a guy on a throne with dancing angles around him?

[Lindelani Mnisi]

Whats the dark brotherhood?