contrary to popular belief?

[GrandmasterP]

One would sincerely hope so.

Far too many young lads on here obviously not doing nearly enough frolicking.

[Stosh]

Seems obvious that people mean different things when they use the term 'self'. hence the need for debates like this.

 

I agree with that , so the proper thing to do,

is give a person the opportunity to bring together - that which doesnt seem to.

 

It doesnt matter now , If a person will just not admit to the tiniest boo boo

then its self evident ,,they are perfectly willing to stick with things that arent true

 

And If a person goes to them and asks what they dont already know ,,,

how can that person have faith in the level of intellectual honesty they will get.

 

I dont expect I will be asking for more.

[Stosh]

It's not a debate as such. 'Aired opinions' more like.

No one knows for sure, some have an opinion; more don't give a feck.

Experience still counts for something in Taoism and sure as eggs is eggs most of these young lads pontificating on here now and showing little respect and less sense will be off chasing some fresh fad come spring.

Older, wiser heads such as Guro MH carry on regardless.

 

If Im one of the "Young lads" you may be right about the spring

Funny thing about respect though , it tends to swing both ways

Show it and you should get it

Being dismissive and disparaging and not exactly correct all at the same time

doesnt really earn it. and older folks can be smartie pants too !

[GrandmasterP]

I am allowed.

Curmudgeonly comes with the territory.

[GrandmasterP]

Anyhoo, it's Friday night.

Less posting more clubbing young man.

Your future awaits and she's gorgeous.

[Stosh]

Yeah , thats possibly reasonable , but

1) I may not be as young as you are assuming (I figure Im older than Gattito looking at his picture.)

2) you may or may not have noticed , but I only mess around here on weekdays

between actively working. I have small chunks of time to kill.

3) what one man can do another can too , I really dont care for double standards theyre hypocritical by nature

BUT

I can also see that the desired product may not be what I am offering here , far more folks want to spin chakras

or engage in what I think Gattito was referring to as Siddhis (rather than find rational basis for harmony with the

external realities of things or actually seek to escape attatchments)

 

You said you are a Medium of sorts , that it sells , its what the folks want

and I suspect that is exactly true. I dont think of myself as pontificating ,

Im just not beating the same drums.

[gatito]

This is the Vedanta forum and some of us are actually interested in using this dōjō for the purpose for which it was ostensibly made available.

 

It is one small forum on a very large siite with many other dōjōs avilable for those whose interests lie elsewhere.

 

Could I therefore request that anyone who is interested in other areas of study should socialise elsewhere.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

[Stosh]

Since originally I was asking about the subject being discussed here ,

and not inserting my own subject matter , I dont consider the invitation

to leave to be based on subject matter.

My momentary interest though, has dropped considerably now, so

 

Go ahead, carry on, You can have the pulpit back.

[GrandmasterP]

Yeah , thats possibly reasonable , but

1) I may not be as young as you are assuming (I figure Im older than Gattito looking at his picture.)

2) you may or may not have noticed , but I only mess around here on weekdays

between actively working. I have small chunks of time to kill.

3) what one man can do another can too , I really dont care for double standards theyre hypocritical by nature

BUT

I can also see that the desired product may not be what I am offering here , far more folks want to spin chakras

or engage in what I think Gattito was referring to as Siddhis (rather than find rational basis for harmony with the

external realities of things or actually seek to escape attatchments)

 

You said you are a Medium of sorts , that it sells , its what the folks want

and I suspect that is exactly true. I dont think of myself as pontificating ,

Im just not beating the same drums.

..................

More of an "Extra Large" but yeah a semi pro medium in that I get paid when I do it but have a day job.

Seems like just a lotta words on here and a sense of..."my words are better than your words".

Your reference to a "pulpit" was surely apposite.

My old dad said that anyone occupying a pulpit in a chapel considered themselves to be...

"Six feet above contradiction"

[gatito]

I agree with that , so the proper thing to do,

is give a person the opportunity to bring together - that which doesnt seem to.

 

It doesnt matter now , If a person will just not admit to the tiniest boo boo

then its self evident ,,they are perfectly willing to stick with things that arent true

 

And If a person goes to them and asks what they dont already know ,,,

how can that person have faith in the level of intellectual honesty they will get.

 

I dont expect I will be asking for more.

Yeah , thats possibly reasonable , but

1) I may not be as young as you are assuming (I figure Im older than Gattito looking at his picture.)

2) you may or may not have noticed , but I only mess around here on weekdays

between actively working. I have small chunks of time to kill.

3) what one man can do another can too , I really dont care for double standards theyre hypocritical by nature

BUT

I can also see that the desired product may not be what I am offering here , far more folks want to spin chakras

or engage in what I think Gattito was referring to as Siddhis (rather than find rational basis for harmony with the

external realities of things or actually seek to escape attatchments)

 

You said you are a Medium of sorts , that it sells , its what the folks want

and I suspect that is exactly true. I dont think of myself as pontificating ,

Im just not beating the same drums.

Since originally I was asking about the subject being discussed here ,

and not inserting my own subject matter , I dont consider the invitation

to leave to be based on subject matter.

My momentary interest though, has dropped considerably now, so

 

Go ahead, carry on, You can have the pulpit back.

 

As you say, you were "originally" asking about the subject matter but you also say that it was only a "momentary interest" and that your "momentary interest" has "dropped considerably now".

 

Had I realised that was the case, then I wouldn't have bothered to respond to you Stosh; as you would clearly have been wasting both your time and my time here.

 

So, thank you for what seems to be your agreement to socialise and/or to discuss your personal issues somewhere other than the Vedanta forum.

 

If you ever develop a serious interest, then I'm sure that others would be happy to help you further.

[Stosh]

Once you responded as you chose to ,

you took part responsibility for the chain that followed

Im responsible for my part agreed

The fault ? I dont know what my portion is here

or what it is.

But Ill take ownership of that too.

"Momentary interest' refers to your personal opinion

on the subject , not the subject of self.

I was trying to follow the thread and it came to a point that

I needed clarification on what you were saying .

Ill just look elsewhere.

[Stosh]

..................

More of an "Extra Large" but yeah a semi pro medium in that I get paid when I do it but have a day job.

Seems like just a lotta words on here and a sense of..."my words are better than your words".

Your reference to a "pulpit" was surely apposite.

My old dad said that anyone occupying a pulpit in a chapel considered themselves to be...

"Six feet above contradiction"

 

I thought Dojo was a conflict based paradigm for operating a forum

Please dont keep this stirring , we all have other things to do.

Ok?

[gatito]

Once you responded as you chose to ,

you took part responsibility for the chain that followed

Im responsible for my part agreed

The fault ? I dont know what my portion is here

or what it is.

But Ill take ownership of that too.

"Momentary interest' refers to your personal opinion

on the subject , not the subject of self.

I was trying to follow the thread and it came to a point that

I needed clarification on what you were saying .

Ill just look elsewhere.

 

No Stosh.

 

I'm certainly not responsible for your actions.

 

And as for your ostensible interest, you need to reread what you said above : -

 

"I only mess around here on weekdays

between actively working. I have small chunks of time to kill."

 

Let me repeat myself:-

 

"Had I realised that was the case, then I wouldn't have bothered to respond to you Stosh; as you would clearly have been wasting both your time and my time here."

 

Hope you're 100% clear now.

[Jeff]

 

Let me repeat myself:-

 

"Had I realised that was the case, then I wouldn't have bothered to respond to you Stosh; as you would clearly have been wasting both your time and my time here."

 

Hope you're 100% clear now.

 

Ouch...

 

[GrandmasterP]

 

 

I thought Dojo was a conflict based paradigm for operating a forum

Please dont keep this stirring , we all have other things to do.

Ok?

..................................

Conflict based?

[gatito]

..................................

Conflict based?

 

Perhaps this will work for the verbal type?

[Stosh]

^{This article is about training halls. For other uses, see Dojo (disambiguation).}

^{Dojo A kendo dōjō.Japanese nameKanji:道場Hiragana:どうじょう[show]Transliterations- Revised Hepburn:dōjō- Kunrei-shiki:dôzyô}

^{A dojo (道場, dōjō?) is a Japanese term which literally means "place of the way". Initially, dōjōs were adjunct to temples. The term can refer to a formal training place for any of the Japanese do arts but typically it is considered the formal gathering place for students of any Japanese martial arts style such as karate, judo, or samurai,[1] to conduct training, examinations and other related encounters.}

^{The concept of a dōjō as a martial arts training place is a Western concept; in Japan,[citation needed] any physical training facility, including professional wrestling schools, may be called dōjō because of its close martial arts roots.}

[Marblehead]

... for only the Self can be Self realized, ...

Within one's own Dojo.

[3bob]

mojo your dojo and raise you a highho...

[Dainin]

 

I should have asked ...Santa Claus?

 

 

Let's see:

 

Long flowing beard: check

 

Special clothing: check

 

Siddhis achieved: levitation (reindeer-assisted), bilocation (omnipresence really), resistance to extreme cold (tumo adept?), manifestation of an infinite number of gifts, ability to ingest vast amounts of milk and cookies.

 

The overall selflessness in bodhisattvic in nature, yet tempered with monotheistic moral judgmentalism, as reflected in the naughty and nice list. Therefore I conclude that:

 

Santa is a Sikh.

 

(I hope that you don't mind this appearing in the Vendanta dojo!)

[gatito]

Let's see:

 

Long flowing beard: check

 

Special clothing: check

 

Siddhis achieved: levitation (reindeer-assisted), bilocation (omnipresence really), resistance to extreme cold (tumo adept?), manifestation of an infinite number of gifts, ability to ingest vast amounts of milk and cookies.

 

The overall selflessness in bodhisattvic in nature, yet tempered with monotheistic moral judgmentalism, as reflected in the naughty and nice list. Therefore I conclude that:

 

Santa is a Sikh.

 

(I hope that you don't mind this appearing in the Vendanta dojo!)

 

No.

 

It's beyond salvation.

[GrandmasterP]

Santa is a Sufi

As any fule kno