eye_of_the_storm Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) To roam freely To abandon "society" "civilization" To live naturally Everything has a price What is left? Edited November 16, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) excuses Edited November 16, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted November 16, 2012 Ah sweet sweet Utopia. Motherland to us all. :-) I quite like mountains, only to look at mind you. Wouldn't fancy climbing up one. Have been up a couple on cable cars out in Austria, that was nice. lovely views from the top.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted November 16, 2012 To roam freely ... inexhaustible flying legs are needed. To abandon "society" "civilization" ...we must cut our roots: since we are born in society's womb, civilization is our mother. Who dares to abandon his mother? To live naturally... we have to learn how to do it, from people who can do it. Who are them? Everything has a price... and no tax receipt. What is left? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) The survivalists seem to have the market cornered in getting away from it all in the west. Out in India one came across older people who had walked away from life to embrace the mendicant holy person path. Down in Vrindaban I came across another group of reluctant holy-mendicants. Youngish and not so young widows thrown out of doors by their late husband's families and left to fend for themselves. There are hundreds of them down there. Edited November 16, 2012 by GrandmasterP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted November 18, 2012 Inexhaustible flying legs are needed ! Hmm nice response thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 16, 2013 by Gerard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Right you are I was thinking if I have to "work to survive" I may as well do it in style haha / be cool to find a few adventurous others and go walkabout Though I kind of have this image in likeness to the village in the movie "The Last Samurai" Or other idealistic village settings before the industrial revolution I suppose. ahaha Edited November 18, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted November 18, 2012 Idyllic village life is never so idyllic once you live amongst it and begin to see the ripples beneath the superficially calm surface. Have a Google around 'Utopian Communities'. We moved here to the 'Heart of Rural England' (it says that on the roadsigns) six years ago from the grim and gritty northern industrial wastelands. It is truly 'picture postcard' beautiful and yet if anything there are slightly more social problems per capita than where we came from. Up north they tend to go out on Friday and Saturday nights, get royally pissed, have a fight and then go home. Round here many sit in lovely homes in splendid isolation, drinking themselves into a stupor and weeping. Every feckin' night some of the 'poor' beggars. The knock on effect of the downsides of affluent rural isolation carries through into their kids whose anger is palpable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted November 19, 2012 Can't win it seems hahah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted November 20, 2012 Inexhaustible flying legs are needed ! Hmm nice response thanks Guess, we had the same dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) The villages in the mountains seem strange to me. Rural flatlands the people are spread out and have land, even in villages people have yards and space. But in mountains people live all clumped up in the holler. I grew up near Appalachia so some came from poor people and miners, but have noticed people clumped up even in more affluent communities in the Rockies. I would not want to live in mountain village, want to live on the mountain. Edited November 20, 2012 by zanshin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted November 20, 2012 Topography shapes attitude sometimes. Villagers up in the hills look down with suspicion and disdain on the 'lowlanders' whilst the 'highlanders' are dismissed as thieving untrustworthy cattle rustlers by the lowlanders. Well in Scotland anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 20, 2012 Just remember: First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is. Chop wood, carry water; attain enlighenment; chop water carry wood. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted November 20, 2012 Caterpillar sheds his skin to find the butterfly within. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites