Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 That's because of your religious beliefs - Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism It is impossible for you to ever win that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 "energy" and "space" are perceptions of the Perceiver  Objects appearing to the Subject  Yes I agree but I was sticking to the confines of science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 Great start!!! Â But remember, I am not trying to lead anyone anywhere. But all are welcome to walk with me a while if they so choose. Â Except to Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism - of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 Perhaps "if the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise" LOL Well, you have a good start because you have to read my posts in order to criticize them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 It is impossible for you to ever win that. Â It's impossible for me ever to lose it - see Sun Tsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 Great start!!! Â But remember, I am not trying to lead anyone anywhere. But all are welcome to walk with me a while if they so choose. Â Its the only true belief that I hold ... that I can understand ... that it is possible to understand everything even when at this present moment I don't. Everything else is just a working basis at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 Yes I agree but I was sticking to the confines of science. Â So you're a Scientific Materialist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 I kind of agree that Materialism is probably one the few philosophies which can be shown to be false, since matter itself is only a perceived effect of energy and space. Be careful here because once we start breaking things into their individual parts you have lost the truee essence of whatever it is you are taking apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 So you're a Scientific Materialist? Â Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 It's impossible for me ever to lose it - see Sun Tsu I was Sun Tzu in my other life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 Be careful here because once we start breaking things into their individual parts you have lost the truee essence of whatever it is you are taking apart. Â the essence is the irreducible which you find by analysis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 I was Sun Tzu in my other life. Â Pseudoreligious chaff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 That's good  Not according to Marbles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 the essence is the irreducible which you find by analysis. Hehehe. That was more "science" based than anything I would suggest. Â No, all you find is what the "Ten Thousand Things" are made of. We are all stardust. Bottom line. But how does that knowledge help me live my live. I find it interesting information but rather useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 Pseudoreligious chaff What? You don't believe me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 Not according to Marbles. Â Well having spent several years and 14,641 posts trying to get everyone here to follow his religion (Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism) and being a reincarnation of Sun Tzu, you would have thought that he'd have realised that he's lost by now LOL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 Not according to Marbles. Hey! If you are happy with yourself then I am happy for you. I like happy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) What? You don't believe me? Â http://thetaobums.co...ty/#entry380014 Edited December 6, 2012 by gatito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 Well having spent several years and 14,641 posts trying to get everyone here to follow his religion (Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism) and being a reincarnation of Sun Tzu, you would have thought that he'd have realised that he's lost by now LOL Â Marbles is not trying to convert anyone ... he's just standing his ground. For that I respect him and enjoy the conversation ... even though we will never agree. In fact if we all agreed it would be very, very boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 Well having spent several years and 14,641 posts trying to get everyone here to follow his religion (Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism) and being a reincarnation of Sun Tzu, you would have thought that he'd have realised that he's lost by now LOL You're counting my posts? I don't. Â Not trying to lead anyone anywhere. Â I had a realization once but I have forgotten what it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted December 6, 2012 You're counting my posts? I don't. Â Not trying to lead anyone anywhere. Â I had a realization once but I have forgotten what it was. Â It was something to do with the chair you are sitting on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2012 Marbles is not trying to convert anyone ... he's just standing his ground. For that I respect him and enjoy the conversation ... even though we will never agree. In fact if we all agreed it would be very, very boring. Â I've been bored by the repetitive nature of Atheistic Pseudoscientific Materialism for a very long time now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 6, 2012 the essence is the irreducible which you find by analysis. Ah! I have been confronted with that thought before. I still don't accept it. Â Everything is special in its own way. If we keep taking things apart what we are left with is nothing. How nihilistic!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
