Gift of Tao and Stillness movement meditation

[Jedi777]

Hey everyone I should be getting my DVDs this week

Can anyone that works this system please share what they have gained and exp doing this long term?

Also how do you work both the Stillness and the moving form together ?

I am enjoying the stillness meditation lots of movement and heat and shaking...

I can feel thickness and magnetic feeling with some slight heat in my Dan Tian area today .

Thanks for any insights and updates you all can share.

Peace

Jedi777

 

[RiverSnake]

I usually do GOT first and then practice S-M because the session seem more productive when your already "juiced up". I have recorded all of my experiences with the system in my journal as have several other bums but i will list a few here.

 

1. Expansion of Consciousness/ Clarity

2. Increased Sensitivity to Chi

3. Deep Peace and Calm

 

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

Edited December 6, 2012 by OldGreen

[Cat Pillar]

I'm still a newbie with the system, but even in a short time I've noticed a lot of mental and emotional blockages being released, a subtle increase in overall energy level, and a very subtle increase in sensitivity.

 

I'm still in the first 100 days.

[Jedi777]

Thanks for sharing

[skydog]

I like to do both everyday and do it all day long, with everything I am doing, walking, lying down, sitting. But actually I may experiment with Old Greens advice also I am only doing 12-13 moves of gift of the Tao that I wrote down from the workshop havent yet bought the Dvds.

 

I am close to 100 days of practice.

 

Here are some "benefits" gained.

 

1) I have drastically improved my overall productivity, action taking and habits, slowly snowballing everyday something new I do/dont do everyday.

 

2) I seem to be able to heal my own pains somewhat.

 

3) I feel much lighter and smoother.

 

4) I feel much more grounded as I am usually in my lower dantien. Even had my first day of sleep in stillness movement.

 

5) I am more in control of what I say/dont say, and being more socially acceptable.

 

6) I feel more powerful generally. It has helped my eating habits and whether or not I drain myself with porn.

 

7) I seem to accomplish most things I desire, maybe law of attraction?

 

8) I get a lot of epiphanies around things like kindness.

 

9) I am seeing much more purpose around life and am clearer of my own direction, I think I may have awakened a few natural "gifts"

 

10) I cant think of number 10, It would be nice to finish with 10 lol, I am still a beginner and hope to keep my beginner mentality. Thanks Michael and everyone.

Edited December 6, 2012 by sinansencer

[Ish]

The other guys have covered it well.

From a martial perspective after stillness movement I often notice my strikes feel heavier than usual - can actually feel a somewhat dense wave travel down the arm and to the hand, not directed it does this by itself naturally.

Makes sense as the dan tian is the core of internal martial arts and Stillness Movement develops this nicely.

[JohnC]

I've had experiences of wu wei, deep long term body injury healing(lower hip and atlas vertebra healing... I've had it that way for so long I just assumed that was how it would be forever...), alignment with my path in life(life just seems to flow), an over abundance of energy regardless of sleep, it will highlight your talents and any spiritual ones if you have them (I've had glimmers of the future, knowing what people will say before they say it, knowing things are going to turn out awesome, kind of stuff), and oh yea I can emit chi, and have started doing healings.

 

Over all it's pretty fucking awesome if you ask me.

 

I usually practice gift of the tao through the day at different times, and from 9-11 every night I'll do 30 minutes of zhan zhuang, 30 minutes gift of the tao, and 1 hour of stillness movement. Preferably 2 hours of stillness movement daily, 1 hour in the morning 1 hour at night.

 

Coupled with attention on your dantien through the day, although that isn't comparable to practicing stillness movement for a period of time, either sitting or standing.(In my opinion)

Standing seems to works my hips, legs, and whole body, while sitting seems to take me deep.

 

John

Edited December 6, 2012 by JohnC

[Jedi777]

Just got GOT 1-2 today I must say Master Lomax is my kind of chi Kung Master down to earth and even sings Rock and roll

Very cool so far I will learn the first 3 first ..having a little trouble with exercise number 3 but will have it by tomorrow night..

Love how it all just flows together ...very smooth

[Antares]

Must one get transmission to practice GOT S_M? Or DVD's can be enough? I am interested.

[Ish]

Just got GOT 1-2 today I must say Master Lomax is my kind of chi Kung Master down to earth and even sings Rock and roll

Very cool so far I will learn the first 3 first ..having a little trouble with exercise number 3 but will have it by tomorrow night..

Love how it all just flows together ...very smooth

 

Haha yeah the third one gets me as well, its like every time you watch it can make a slight tweak. Also helps to watch the 2 different angles/versions on the DVD.

[Celestial]

Must one get transmission to practice GOT S_M? Or DVD's can be enough? I am interested.

 

Transmissions are a scam to get you to cough up $$$. Unless someone is offering to do it for free, but even then I would be skeptical. The only time I would allow someone to transmit something to me is if it was coming from a grandmaster within a deep lineage. Very few of these exist today, if any.

 

The DVD's are enough.

[Antares]

I have found on the forum what Ya Mu said about it

 

There is an entire different oral, shown, and energetic tradition that only face-to-face can accomplish. The written (and now video) tradition can only show a part of the whole. This same concept applies to qigong as well as MA. A person cannot understand this aspect until they have personal experience with it. The energy transmission can be very powerful and fully life-changing.

[raimonio]

Transmissions are a scam to get you to cough up $$$. Unless someone is offering to do it for free, but even then I would be skeptical. The only time I would allow someone to transmit something to me is if it was coming from a grandmaster within a deep lineage. Very few of these exist today, if any.

 

The DVD's are enough.

 

Michael Lomax, the teacher of Stillness-Movement is a lineage holder if I have understood correctly. It is a legimate lineage and the transmission is a crucial component of the practice IMHO. It is as real as it gets. Michael's teacher Wang JUEMIN was one of the great Qi Gong masters of his time and he learned from all the great masters of the time before him

 

Before I went to a workshop to receive the transmission I did not even believe in energies, I was very sceptic. Because of all the unbelievable hype surrounding the practice I decided to give it a try thinking something in the line of "if this doesn't work, then I will never believe in energies". When I received the Gift of Dan Tien there was no doubt that energy existed, the sensation was so clear and so powerful.

 

I started at the same time as Sinansencer so I haven't finished my 100 days, yet the practice has already changed my life. My life was a mess and everything felt like a struggle. I have cronic fatique syndrome etc. With the practice everything has become possible, I can actually manage trough the day. It gave me that little something. Before I tried Yoga, Tai Chi, Qi Gong, Zen-meditation, Stillness-Movement without transmission, they did not change the situation. Such is the power of a genuine lineage. Ofcourse Stillness-Movement and the Gift of the Dan Tien Qi Gong works just like any qi gong or meditation, but I do recommend going to a workshop.

 

S-M makes you calm and relaxed, opens your energy channels, makes you feel extremely good and balanced. It moves your life torward harmony. But the best part of the practice is the stillness, or should I say deepness. It takes you very deep. Its amazing how I have been practicing only for a few months and I can already be without a single thought around 30-40minutes of the 1hour that I am doing daily. I haven't even started to grasp how deep the practice goes. Hearing from the more experienced practitioners I have lightyears to go and there seems to be no end to the level of deepness you can go. They talk of magical worlds and other dimensions, spiritual beings and teachers. So when you do S-M its like "This is awesome and the longer I do this the more awesome it will be"

Edited December 7, 2012 by raimonio

[JohnC]

Transmissions are a scam to get you to cough up $$$. Unless someone is offering to do it for free, but even then I would be skeptical. The only time I would allow someone to transmit something to me is if it was coming from a grandmaster within a deep lineage. Very few of these exist today, if any.

 

The DVD's are enough.

 

Celestial doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Lomax could probably pipe in here, but from what I've heard is the transmission 'lights the fire' of your lower dantien. Not needed, I think, but speeds you along the path exponentially.

 

Including what ramonio and rainbow have said.

 

And it seems to me stillness-movement is a developing practice, as in the more you practice the more energy you have, the deeper you go. As your dantien develops so too does your practice.

 

John

[Antares]

And it seems to me stillness-movement is a developing practice, as in the more you practice the more energy you have, the deeper you go. As your dantien develops so too does your practice.

 

So if I am correct it is to develop LDT and it is ascending method. I want to practice some another LDT meditation along with this one where there is vizualisation of qi going up with breath. I would prefer LDT practice as I don't like much methods with 3d eye concentration. Looks like GOT meets my needs and sounds nicely for me as method. Are there any instructors of GOT in the UK? I have found some people teach jing dong gong in the north UK (not too far from me):

http://www.quanshu.co.uk/spirit.htm

 

I am not sure if they can do transimision.

[Antares]

Thanks. Yes, I guess there is no any visualis. in this Neikung and it is why I like such systems where one does not need to do any visual-ns. I dont like vis. and trying to avoid such systems. But in this case it is quite ancient method of baduanjing alchemy and I just like method and visual. there is kinda very soft just to help to the qi flow up the spine. Just want to find benefit of it too. It is longevity exercise as well

Edited December 7, 2012 by Eugene

[joeblast]

I usually do GOT first and then practice S-M because the session seem more productive when your already "juiced up". I have recorded all of my experiences with the system in my journal as have several other bums but i will list a few here.

 

1. Expansion of Consciousness/ Clarity

2. Increased Sensitivity to Chi

3. Deep Peace and Calm

 

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

Not that I have experience with this system per se, but I emphatically agree on the logical paradigm, I follow this almost every session with the practices I do. One translation-progression could be embryonic breathing, to mco, to longevity breathing.

[Antares]

Well, as I tried to explain a vis. is very soft and like a instant vis. and it is not main core of the practice and it is more about breath and LDT development. Just another tool. May be I don't need it really. I just like it. They state they the man who transmitted this practice had been living for over 250 years and there is official evidence of that indeed. So why not?

 

Also regarding my quiery I found another statement from Ya Mu

 

Your practice will get you to this point. Still the mind and awareness on the energetics.

Best to attend a class. There were folks from UK at the last workshop and folks from Europe attending the one in June. If that isn't an option I am hoping to do a distance class in January 2013; hands-on will always be best. These are your only options for receiving "lighting of the fire" and the awakening energetics.

Edited December 7, 2012 by Eugene

[joeblast]

Celestial doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Lomax could probably pipe in here, but from what I've heard is the transmission 'lights the fire' of your lower dantien. Not needed, I think, but speeds you along the path exponentially.

 

Including what ramonio and rainbow have said.

 

And it seems to me stillness-movement is a developing practice, as in the more you practice the more energy you have, the deeper you go. As your dantien develops so too does your practice.

 

John

This has been my experience with kunlun & red phoenix. RP transmission from Max accelerated everything I was doing.

[Antares]

Yes, I mean another practice of course, I just have bought materials on this qigong because I was doing baduanjin for a while and I encountered information about authentic seatted baduanj. And I love tthose materials. It is seatted meditation technique for health and longevity according to Staurt Alve Olson who has been training within authentic Tajchi lineage and this meditation coming from famous master Li Ching-Yuen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen

[raimonio]

Correction!

 

Not WANG Liping, but WANG Juemin

 

 

Sheeeet, I always get those names mixed up. Usually it happens in my head but now here, how embarrassing

[Antares]

FWIW, they both have a powerful reputation, each in respected lineage.

 

As far as I am concerned there are few people from Russia who have real transmission in taoist sects state that NO ONE of taoists monks know who is WANG LIPING. One of them was in those mountains where WL claims to be taught and no any monk know who is WL. There is no any record i the lineage on WL. I don't know what is true and just saying what I know from some people within Wu Lu PAI sect who quiered about WL in CHINA.

[Green Tiger]

I'm with you on the movement followed by meditation sequence, but I must say that I've also tried it the other way around and it also has merit.

 

Especially if I'm practicing first thing in the morning, it seems more natural to sit for a bit, then stand, then do some movements. Then maybe even sit some more, if you aren't already late for work.

 

I would recommend going to the workshop also. Not saying it can't be done without the transmission, but my first transmission was a life-changing experience and the second was also pretty fantastic.

[RiverSnake]

I'm with you on the movement followed by meditation sequence, but I must say that I've also tried it the other way around and it also has merit.

 

Especially if I'm practicing first thing in the morning, it seems more natural to sit for a bit, then stand, then do some movements. Then maybe even sit some more, if you aren't already late for work.

 

As i recall what Michael recommends is to have simply a balance of Movement and Sitting in terms of the time you put into each, one of those balancing Yin and Yang things i guess.

 

I have never tried it the other way (perhaps i will)....but indeed i imagine they both have much merit.

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

[Celestial]

Yawn.

 

Not everyone can handle the accelerated effect of a transmission. Start by doing the work for at least 6 months to a year. And yes there are lots of "transmission" scammers out there, so be careful. Quit pretending like they don't exist.

 

I was not implying that Ya Mu is one of them. Relax.

Edited December 8, 2012 by Celestial