adept Posted December 18, 2012 There are many internal practices in the Shaolin based arts. Could we make this a place to post some information and demonstrations. I like this one a lot : 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 18, 2012 Good information here : http://imos-journal.net/?p=1635 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreytoWhite Posted December 18, 2012 Sal Canzonieri has done a lot of research into Shaolin internal practices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 18, 2012 Sal Canzonieri has done a lot of research into Shaolin internal practices. http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/CMAarticle36-ShaolinSoftBoxing.htm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minkus Posted December 19, 2012 Example of the 18 damo and yi jin jing practiced internally: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted December 19, 2012 What is the difference with this one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Shifu Yan Lei : http://www.qigongworkout.com Edited December 20, 2012 by adept Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted December 20, 2012 I have his book and video. Wanted to practice it but now I think it is kinda more external training which takes much time to do it. IMO better to spend your time for neikung/alchemy practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 20, 2012 Shaolin Chuan Yuan - beautifully performed, fluid and supple. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 20, 2012 I have his book and video. Wanted to practice it but now I think it is kinda more external training which takes much time to do it. IMO better to spend your time for neikung/alchemy practice. Go ahead practice it ! Try one move at a time for a few days, then add next one...etc etc... Once you master it, it should only take 15 minutes or so. If you add warm up's, stretching, stance work and meditation, it's a good 1 hour plus. Try the stances throughout the day, especially the horse stance, keeping correct posture and alignment. It looks external but hidden within is one of the best health management systems ever invented. It's that good ! As Shifu Yan Lei says "with this practice, over time, body make own medicine" It depends on your interpretation of neikung. It means 'inner work', which this most definitely is. Neikung and alchemy are not all about sitting crosslegged, retention of semen, storing chi and moving it in the body etc etc. That is a crossover with Tantric practices of the southern school. It is but one way of study and practice and can be dangerous to physical and mental health if done unsupervised. According to the northern school of Complete Reality the Golden Elixir is nothing but our own pristine fundamental nature obscured by a lifetime of cultural and social conditioning. We merely have to 'turn around the light' and look inward. Read the works of Liu I Ming, Thomas Cleary (especially The Secret Of The Golden Flower) and some Ch'an literature for another perspective. Best wishes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted December 20, 2012 I have learned 4 exercises from this set. I like it. But if you do all of them + meditation then it is 1 hour + indeed. And I started to think that I could spend this time for the morning 1 hour neikung session. It is may be important to do ONE technic all the time to master it to the high level. But I come accross with the problem that I feel myself sluggish just after I wake up early in the morning. And anyway we should do some kind of callisthenics anyway to have combined approach from both internal and extrernal. Good point actually. There is also some yi jin jing Sifu Yan Lei teachs. Also might be very good stuff for the health promation. Can be done during a day for some 20 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) How can one tell that which style is internal or external......??? It is very easy to distinguish them. The styles that are moving soft and gracefully with breathing were considered to be internal(Neigong) . In the contrary, any style which requires to hitting something with any body part by consuming body energy, with heavy perspiring, was considered to be external practice. Edited December 20, 2012 by ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) The Spiritual Legacy of Shaolin Temple Buddhims, Daoism, and the Energetic Arts Andy James Foreward by Jerrry Alan Johnson Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.co... Shaolin Temple $1.65 - used Edited December 21, 2012 by dawei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted December 21, 2012 I would say internal cultivates pre-heaven qi External post-heaven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreytoWhite Posted December 22, 2012 Watched a VCD of the first form of Rou Quan from Mao Jingguang. I think that Chen taiji would be more accessible and provide the same benefit. The Rou Quan set and Chen taiji look very similar and I think Sal Canzonieri has a valid position in that Chen shi is more Shaolin influenced than anything from Zhang Sanfeng. There was definitely Daoist influence in the Rou Quan set, who knows what the original set looked like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I do agree that Rou Quan, with Fa Jin, is similar to the second level of Tai Ji at moderate speed rather in slow motion as in the first level. Edited December 22, 2012 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
