Winter Q and A with Chinese Doctor! My Gift to TaoBums for Christmas!

[Eternal_Student]

Happy Holidays to all practicing Taoists! I am back and I'm happy to offer some free discussions regarding TCM, qi gong, tai chi and meditation. Quick Bio, for the new round of people.

First TCM apprenticeship started in 1997. Martial arts since 5th grade including extreme proficiency in Yoshinkan Aikido, Taijitsu, Internal arts. TCM doctorate and licesnsed acupuncturist in 2 states. Taught TCM at Master's level in Boulder Colorado for 5 years. Permission to teach Tai Chi in 2001. Yang/Chen base with loads of tui shao around the country, currently adapting Tai chi to American style. Teachers are original founders of NQA, direct study under Dr Glenn Morris. Direct lineage to Mantak Chia through original 13 American students from 1980's. Ive been around and would love to share. I believe in Karma and every winter I like to discuss traning when I'm toning things to a slow simmer for the hibernation. My patient load is still high, around 30 a week, I just relax my training a little, not good for the kidneys!

 

Pick a topic and let's see where we go from there!

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Free legal advice? I'm down with that! HAW! First thing that comes to my mind is how much can I learn from reading about Taijiquan or Qi Gong? Second is how will I know I am practicing correctly without the watchful guidance of an actual teacher?

[dawei]

I came home from a 9 day business trip and my wife's mom (a retired chinese TCM doctor) was grabbing her heart... then beating it with her fist as she walked around the living room. She had already had 3 operations on her heart and was told she would never survive another...

 

We had brought her to Orlando, FL so she could come get out of the northeast cold climate of china... but here she was in Orlando with a heart crisis in the middle of the night... She said this was the worse ever and proclaimed this was the one to kill her and she accepted this but fought it with her fist...

 

What do you do? (this was last night and I'll save what I did until I get a response).

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Wow I don't even know enough about either the heart OR any kind of Qi practice that would be any use to someone, or even myself! In a situation like that, me, i'd probably try to get her to a hospital. I'd have to know what I was doing to want to help out any other way at all.

[gendao]

Happy Holidays to all practicing Taoists! I am back and I'm happy to offer some free discussions regarding TCM, qi gong, tai chi and meditation. Quick Bio, for the new round of people.

First TCM apprenticeship started in 1997. Martial arts since 5th grade including extreme proficiency in Yoshinkan Aikido, Taijitsu, Internal arts. TCM doctorate and licesnsed acupuncturist in 2 states. Taught TCM at Master's level in Boulder Colorado for 5 years. Permission to teach Tai Chi in 2001. Yang/Chen base with loads of tui shao around the country, currently adapting Tai chi to American style. Teachers are original founders of NQA, direct study under Dr Glenn Morris. Direct lineage to Mantak Chia through original 13 American students from 1980's. Ive been around and would love to share. I believe in Karma and every winter I like to discuss traning when I'm toning things to a slow simmer for the hibernation. My patient load is still high, around 30 a week, I just relax my training a little, not good for the kidneys!

 

Pick a topic and let's see where we go from there!

I've heard varying designations - so which side of the body (left/right) is Yin & which side is Yang?

 

And if the same acupoint exists bilaterally on a meridian - what does it mean when it hurts on one side, but not the other? Like, let's say that LI 4 (hegu) hurts on your left hand, but not your right?

 

And, what do you do for your training?

 

Thanks!!!

[Cheshire Cat]

The two plagues that western medicine cannot cures are sight-problem (myopia, etc) and hair-loss.

There isn't even a valid explanation of this strange things.

What does the TCM say about this matter?

 

Thank you

[Eternal_Student]

Firstly, none of what I write is medical advice and I suggest you seek a qualified practitioner in your area. Especially if its a cardiac emergency. Nobody here is under direct patient care and anything I suggest should be discussed with your PCP or direct care physician before you decide on a direction to proceed. IF its an emergency, seek medical care immediately!

 

Wow, what a smattering of questions.

 

Cardiac emergency. Thin the blood immediately if its a bolus or obstruction. That's why they suggest baby aspirin in Western Medicine. Unless is defib, which is an electrical problem, the next recourse is usually vessel obstruction. Push on emergency points (Mu points) in front and direct Shu point for Heart and Diaphragm in the rear. Use distal Jing well points to illicit stimulation on both qi and nervous system. Or if its your mother in law and you are not on good terms, do nothing!

 

Body side energetics is due to oscillating dominance. If you are R handed or L handed and if you are R brained or L brained primarily. Genetically you inherit one side of your dominance from one parental strain as well. So, you have to figure your handed dominance, brain efficiency and genetic makeup to answer that question. Personally, my right side is my matriarch side and my left is my patriarch. I am an oscillator who leads with his R brain and am ambidextrous. So primarily my R side is my yin side, and my left is my yang, opposite the usual. Which is why if I ingest caffeine, depending on where my energy is at that moment, it can make me sleepy. Generally speaking without serious observational analysis, Left is yin, Right is yang. But everyone is different!

 

Each point on the meridian has its own interaction, as well as each meridian has its own flow. Even though they are bilateral, the can behave unilaterally depending on its source and origin. The R Jueyin meridian feeds the liver directly at the lateral lobe where the L jueyin meridian tends to source near the spleen and pancreas. Which is why heart attacks can shorten the L meridian and make the L arm retract and the R arm feels no sensation or a mild version. When I use thermal cameras on the meridians, you see which Tsubo is actually activated at that moment, and they turn on and off depending on time of day and momentary energetic influence of the person's body.

 

Eyes are related to Liver health, specifically Liver blood and Liver yin levels. They both decrease with age and the liver is incapable of providing the nervous and mucosal influence on the eyes, and the person loses sight. Hair is dependent on blood, jing and circulation of these substances to the head. Which is to say its a combo of nutrients in the system, hormones of the person and cardiac circulation to the head. So if a person inherited weak kidneys from their lineage, the hormones level may lead that person to premature grey or go bald. Now, hair for men is usually accepted as a non indicator. Beard is more an indicator for man while hair is usually more diagnosed in women.

 

This is fun. More please!

S

[Birch]

Great! Thanks for this Xmas present:-)

 

I have a question on self-acupressure. To what point should I continue self-acupressure sessions. Should there be a change in the points, order of points,frequency of sessions etc? In other words, at what point does it become counterproductive to use the same points/order of points?

 

Aside from 'you should know yourself' I'm interested in the repetitive effect. Same could be said for meditation (I refer to some kind of 'inflammation' effect in the healing circle).

 

Thank you!

[Jetsun]

What do you suggest to cure a hangover? I understand rehydration but I find I also get anxiety, anger and tiredness, feeling sick etc. Anyone who says don't drink gets minus karma points.

[hydrogen]

Thank you Eternal_student for your time.

 

I have sinus problem. My right nose is alwasy blocked, especially at night, sometimes bleeding. The mucus is think white.

 

I'm relatively healthy. I work out twice a week. practice Qi gong almost daily. My diet is rice, vegetables and lean meat (2:3:1)

 

I've seen doctors before without success. Should I see a TCM doctor?

 

Is there any herbs or treatment you recommand?

 

Thanks again.

[dawei]

ardiac emergency. Thin the blood immediately if its a bolus or obstruction. That's why they suggest baby aspirin in Western Medicine. Unless is defib, which is an electrical problem, the next recourse is usually vessel obstruction. Push on emergency points (Mu points) in front and direct Shu point for Heart and Diaphragm in the rear. Use distal Jing well points to illicit stimulation on both qi and nervous system. Or if its your mother in law and you are not on good terms, do nothing!

Thanks for the comments.

 

I gave her English Hawthorn (and another mixture every 10 minutes), applied pressure to HT-9, and use Medical Qigong. She will keep taking the drops for about 4-5 days. In the past, when this happened in china, she would spend 6-8 weeks recovering after 3 days in the hospital. This was the second episode in 6 months here, but now it only takes her a week to get back to full strength. But the next day she is up cooking and doing house work.

[Protector]

How are 8 extraordinary channels created?

 

TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Eternal_Student]

Diagnosis of particular problems is difficult. I need to at least visually see your face bare minimum. So I can't tell you what meridian is exces and which is deficient in order to modify acupressure or treatment accordingly. Cetain things, like hangover, can be herbally influenced regardless of the person's Constitutional Factors. I'd take Chai hu long gu mu li tang or Jia wei xiao yao san for Liver qi stagnation with minor heat. But again, that's dependent on a particular person. The TCM directive is there are patterns, but everyone is an overlay of about 5 different pattern cycles. So the combinations are exponential, which is why TCM is half art, half science.

 

I'd look first with an EENT specialist to clear the possibility of any obstruction or mechanical deficiencies of the sinus or nasal cavity. Then move to Cang Er Zi San for short duration if all is cleared in Westen DX. Sounds like deep seated nasal phlegm nodulation.

 

Yoga, stretching and personal massage are great forms of "acupressure". Acupressure works almost entirely on a physical level to move broad areas of stagnation out of the muscle/fascial layer. Energetic influence upon self is limited; energetics will be influenced when another system/practitioner can exchange influence the qi level. Hopefully that person is "full" so the energy differential is in your favor.

 

Hawthorne is Shan Zha in TCM. The tertiary effect is to unclog microvessels in the upper jiao/chest region. It primarily is used for meat stagnation and secondarily for cholesterol mitigation. It a minor blood thinner. Great!

 

In my personal training, I rarely repeat except for cycles. Seasonal training the cycle repeats. The main thing I repeat is Qi Cooking and Consolidation daily followed by circulation and Shen refinement. But depends on the day. The biggest thing is keep playing and training, but keep it fresh. The only constant is change.

[Eternal_Student]

8 Meridians are made from initial 8 cellular division just after impregnation. Which by the way, getting pregnant on a micro level follows the exact order of Taoist creation of the universe. First there was Wuji. Then yin and yang, then the 8 directions and then the myriad of 10,000 things! I love micro vs macro, what a trip!

 

I am a stubborn bastard, which is why the first 10 years of my training I called no teacher Master. To this point, I still only call them teachers, I am my own Master thank you very much. The only person I bow to is the Creator! With that said, you can learn by yourself. It will be slow, and you will screw things up. The path is slightly more efficient with a good teacher, but you still have to do the homework, so to speak!

 

I had offers for years from really amazing teachers. I kept saying no. It pissed a lot of them off. Which is fine, because it made them remember me and it led me further and further to more incredible teachers. Till I found the best, which is inside of myself!

[ShenLung]

When i'm doing kiatsu, I stick to the main paths, and feel my way along - generally, just trusting that the qi knows what it is doing.

I've seen plenty of diagrams, but a lot of them look a bit 'iffy', so I cannot trust them to get into any sort of detailed fine tuning. Can you recomend a good source for meridian charts that can help with finer work .. say clearing of one problem without risking creating another?

[dawei]

Hawthorne is Shan Zha in TCM. The tertiary effect is to unclog microvessels in the upper jiao/chest region. It primarily is used for meat stagnation and secondarily for cholesterol mitigation. It a minor blood thinner. Great!

If anyone knows someone with heart issues... I would highly recommend this:

http://www.forresthealth.com/cardionorma.html

 

See Ingredients and Use.

 

I am not suggesting that this is a substitute for professional treatment but if you have this by their side you may likely avert serious damage to the heart when an onset occurs.

[Birch]

Thank you!

Very interesting this differential stuff. So what about when Shen Lung (sorry to talk about your example so specifically Shen Lung) was sapping plants?

[ShenLung]

That bit was over in Jing cuisine, K ... but if Eternal has some answers there, I'd like to hear them, too.

Knowing it works, but not knowing how, or how it is getting done is puzzleing.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

8 Meridians are made from initial 8 cellular division just after impregnation. Which by the way, getting pregnant on a micro level follows the exact order of Taoist creation of the universe. First there was Wuji. Then yin and yang, then the 8 directions and then the myriad of 10,000 things! I love micro vs macro, what a trip!

 

I am a stubborn bastard, which is why the first 10 years of my training I called no teacher Master. To this point, I still only call them teachers, I am my own Master thank you very much. The only person I bow to is the Creator! With that said, you can learn by yourself. It will be slow, and you will screw things up. The path is slightly more efficient with a good teacher, but you still have to do the homework, so to speak!

 

I had offers for years from really amazing teachers. I kept saying no. It pissed a lot of them off. Which is fine, because it made them remember me and it led me further and further to more incredible teachers. Till I found the best, which is inside of myself!

 

 

Ah, a great path to walk indeed! A friend of mine called his "Wukaido" if i am not mistaken? I forget, doesnt matter.

 

 

 

AS for this thread, I like to try to help people, and someone who needs help now is coincidentally also someone who hates to recieve or accept help of any manner. very prideful, but persistent to the very least.

 

His back pains will last longer than his pride, but maybe not his persistence... at which point i may be capable of stepping in, but it could be a long wait or require a terrible experience for him.

 

 

 

However, it was only recent that he experienced these pains, said he was in the shower, bent over to wash his feet when his back popped, and upon standing, he has what he beleives to eb a pinched nerve.

 

I am hoping to divulge as much as i can, but the general knowledge may be the best i'll get; at whatever point on his back, i dont know (i suspect its on the right hand side), he popped *something* in a not so painful mannter he said, but standing up hurt his back and is causing numbness on the underside of his right arm from shoulder to wrist/hand. i think his fingers are becoming, but not totally numbed. He *has* control of his arm, but the pain is apparent. constantly.

 

 

I do so hope to be able to offer something to fix his prediciment, but as i said, he wouldnt be apt to help himself unless he thinks he came up with it *UNLESS* it's "bad enough".

 

 

 

Perhaps you've knowledge of something that would be useful in aiding him through this?

 

 

Merry today and a happy tomorrow!

[Baguakid]

I came home from a 9 day business trip and my wife's mom (a retired chinese TCM doctor) was grabbing her heart... then beating it with her fist as she walked around the living room. She had already had 3 operations on her heart and was told she would never survive another...

 

We had brought her to Orlando, FL so she could come get out of the northeast cold climate of china... but here she was in Orlando with a heart crisis in the middle of the night... She said this was the worse ever and proclaimed this was the one to kill her and she accepted this but fought it with her fist...

 

What do you do? (this was last night and I'll save what I did until I get a response).

 

Dawei,

你是这个大卫吗？？

 

 

Is this you Dawei?

 

tks...

[Eternal_Student]

Differentials are like weather patterns. High pressure moves things away and supports, while low pressure draws near and detracts. All human interactions fall somewhere in this category, to some percentage. Good practitioners take care of themselves and are able to feed their systems from the universe. "To live off universe dew", to quote Kung Fu Panda! Then the differential moves towards the patient. In China, they move invalid and ICU patients into the middle of a group qi gong practice to allow them to soak in the qi differential. Its ambient qi gong therapy.

 

Plants generally are balanced by themselves. But there is some energy loss otherwise they would not die. When people sap plants, its because they are a low differential and are in energetic debt. They do not know how to fill themselves up. People who stay connected to the stream of energy from the creator and the planet, your North and South poles, end up living much longer because they have a constant source other than air, food, water and human interaction. When you cut yourself off, you must seek energy from other sources, which leads to manipulation. Read The Celestine Prophecy for more info on the four energetic manipulations.

 

RE: the pop in the back. A good traditional TCM acupuncturist will know the classic method to return the spinal alignment. Its complex, but has to do with relaxing certain spinal muscles and performing pulling with the needles. Or find a good osteopath or chiro to help out with getting it back into place. I've heard good things about traction/inversion boards.

[Baguakid]

Eternal_Student, I would be interested in your insights into qigong.

[Eternal_Student]

Love Qi gong. I cant miss a day at this point. My patient load is a direct proportion to my cultivation. I have many mouths to feed, LOL!

 

Its a combo of breath, muscles, fascia, tendon, bone, energy/electricity and marrow. In that order. You feel me? Notice energy is toward the end. Its a big problem I have with current training methods. How can you have energy if you don't have the wiring to support it? Your amplifier can only send a certain quantity of signal through those crappy speaker wires they include in the box. You must constantly work to upgrade your wiring to Monster Cables! Have you ever seen a really weak looking Master? Nope, me neither. Maybe later in life when they have refined into the deeper levels, but they are still steel.

 

I am not one of those people who works with energy in the beginning stages. You can fry your reserves of both Qi and Jing. Get a proper vessel and then we will talk. Just had a practicing acupuncturist contact me about training yesterday, from out of state. First thing I tell them? Work on your core. Yep, muscles too. Then we will talk about building up the dantien. How can you support nuclear fission without reactor walls that are really thick? I'm 270 lbs. So yes, I still accept challenges!

[ShenLung]

Thank you, Eternal_Student. Yes, that explains the houseplants. One of my main concerns at the time was, If I am doing this so incorrectly that I am harming plants, how far from harming other living things am I? I've gotten much better at drawing from the poles and celestial bodies since then, but no real desire to repeat the experience; good enough for my satisfaction to touch upon it, and know the truth of it.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

You are inspiring, Eternal_Student. Thank you