Gerard Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 16, 2013 by Gerard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 27, 2012 So many lists ! How confusing. Would it not be better than instead of all those lists of stages of progression and whatnot, just to 'turn around the light' and experience our true nature, here and now ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted December 27, 2012 On 12/27/2012 at 9:43 PM, Gerard said: You can't suddenly experience true nature out of the blue, if the Buddha put a lot of effort into his practice what makes you believe you shouldn't? Sometimes the sudden breakthrough comes after long years of practice, other times people just 'get it' at a phrase, a sound, a text, reading poetry, washing the dishes, making tea, picking the kids up from school etc etc... Sudden breakthroughs always require more work to cement the realization though. Effort is always required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted December 28, 2012 Ajahn Brahm, in Mindfulness Bliss and Beyond, says that originally (in the suttas) the 8fold path was a 10fold path i forget what the other two are... something like right wisdom and right liberation anyone else have information on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 28, 2012 On 12/27/2012 at 9:43 PM, Gerard said: But basically you'll be observing Jhana in the end no matter what. Not in Vajrayana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted December 28, 2012 interesting, thank you gerard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites