Fascism + Solutions

[joeblast]

heh...what's surprising anymore?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-07/guest-post-don%E2%80%99t-dismiss-possibility-gold-confiscation

[zerostao]

i like the outrage expressed by congrssmen who are saying that snowden took an oath and violated that oath and therefore should be prosecuted.

lets follow up on this ideal. example. anyone taking an oath to uphold and defend the us constitution,,,,

[joeblast]

[ralis]

Civil suit filed against Obama, NSA, Verizon, Holder et al.

 

http://torrentfreak.com/former-u-s-prosecutor-sues-obama-and-nsa-over-prism-scandal-130610/

 

http://torrentfreak.com/images/PRISM-class.pdf

 

The U.S. Congress should be made defendants given that Congress approved the spying.

Edited June 10, 2013 by ralis

[ralis]

The 'Patriot Act', NSA, FISA Court and TSA must be deleted!

Edited June 10, 2013 by ralis

[Marblehead]

The 'Patriot Act', NSA, FISA Court and TSA must be deleted!

Don't forget the IRS.

[ralis]

The White House welcomes media interest in the spying program. White house spokesman declares that we must "struggle" with a balance between security and Constitutional rights. What they mean is that the 'security state' is growing and to resist is futile. The elite prefer using fear to undermine our basic rights. I wish the fear mongering would stop!

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/09/white-house-welcomes-media-interest-in-prism-online-spying-program/

Edited June 10, 2013 by ralis

[Marblehead]

The elite prefer using fear to undermine our basic rights. I wish the fear mongering would stop!

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/09/white-house-welcomes-media-interest-in-prism-online-spying-program/

I just spoke to this in some other thread. And indeed, our own governments are amongst the greatest fear mongers around.

 

But then, I see the same thing from the Institutions of religion. Instilling fear of not doing what they say you must do in order to be accepted into the herd.

 

 

PS I don't like the word "tradeoffs". It leaves such a nasty taste in my mouth. They instill fear (mostly unfounded) then tell us that if we want more security we have to give up some of our freedom and privacy.

 

Just another way of controlling the herd.

Edited June 10, 2013 by Marblehead

[Marblehead]

Well, from the headlines (I diddn't read the articles) I just looked at it appears that the "blame game" regarding NSA's spying has begun. We'll see what happens the next couple days. But it will likely get swept under the rug just like the IRS thing was.

[gendao]

The 'Patriot Act', NSA, FISA Court and TSA must be deleted!

Now you know why the Tea Party was so persecuted..

$200k salaries, $20 million+/mo and $2 billion+ to more easily spy on us all sure adds up fast!!!

 

And if you voted for a mainstream candidate, then YOU voted for THIS.

Also note that only 5 of Eric's 41 slides have been released as of yet. Of which he had only selected a few - and have all disproven the non-stop lies of the most "transparent" administration about it. So, the true full scope of this surveillance must truly be mind-blowing! And all funded by OUR taxes, no less!

This NW0 is actually the COMMON enemy that various resistance groups around the WORLD are all fighting against!!! So, who's keeping us safe from this ruthless, lying mob???

[Marblehead]

So, who's keeping us safe from this ruthless, lying mob???

 

You already know the answer to that. But let's be fair, there are groups that are trying to keep our government honest. And there are those who put everything on the line and let the truth be known. America's not dead yet.

[gendao]

^ The very few still end up slandered with smear campaigns, dead, imprisoned or in exile..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaYCglEIkM

The lawsuit claims Raub was arrested and detained as part of an Obama administration plan called “Operation Vigilant Eagle.” This program, the story cites the Rutherford Institute as explaining, “was a federal program to do surveillance on military veterans who express views critical of the government.”

The Truth

by Brandon J Raub (Notes) on Friday, November 11, 2011 at 9:00am

 

America has lost itself. We have lost who we truly are. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. This is the land of Thomas Jefferson. This is the land of Benjamin Franklin. This is the land of Fredrick Douglas. This is the land of Smedley Butler. This is the land John F. Kennedy. This is the land of Martin Luther King. This is the land where the cowboy wins. This is the land where you can start from the bottom and get to the top. This is the land where regardless of you race and ethnicity you can suceed and build a better life for you and your family. This is the land where every race coexists peacefully. This is the land where justice wins. This is the land where liberty dwells. This is the land where freedom reigns. This is the land where we help the poor, and people help eachother. This is land where people beat racism.

 

The federal reserve is wrong. They have designed a system based off of gread and fear. They designed a system to crush the middle class between taxes and inflation. This is wrong, and it is unjust. It is wrong.

 

We have allowed ourselves to be devieced and seduced by the powers of the printing press. It is not a good system. It discourages saving: the foundation for all stable economic activity. The federal reserve is artificially manipulating interests rates and creating phony economic data. This thing has decieved our entire nation.

 

They created it 1913. They also created the income tax in 1913. They encouraged the growth of debt so they can tax you on it. There is interest on the debt. Your government is in bed with these people. They want to enslave you to the government so that they can control every aspect of your lives. It is an empire based on lies. They operate of greed and fear.

 

There is a better way. It's called freedom. Freedom is called a lot of things. But there is a true meaning. It means very simply that you have the right to do whatever you want as long as you are not infringing on the feedoms of other people.

 

I firmly believe that God set America apart from the other nations of the world. He saved a place where people could come to to escape bad systems of goverment. This system we have created works. It really works.

 

There is evil going on all around the world. The United States was meant to lead the charge against injustice, but through our example not our force. People do not respond to having liberty and freedom forced on them.

 

Men and Women follow courage. They follow leadership, and courage. Our example has paved the way for people all around the world to change their forms of goverment.

 

Force is not the way because liberty is a powerful concept. The idea that men can govern themselves is the basis for every just form of government.

 

We can govern ourselves. We do not need to be governed by men who want to install a one world banking system. These men have machine hearts. Machine and unnatural hearts. They have blocked out the possibility of a better world. They fear human progress. They have monopolies on everything.

 

This life can be free and beautiful. There are enough resources on this earth to support the world's population. There are enough resources on this earth to feed everyone. There is enough land for everyone to own their own land and farm, and produce their own energy.

 

These people have been hiding technology. There are ways to create power easily. There is technology that can provide free cheap power for everyone. There are farming techniques that can feed the entire world.

 

They are controlling your media. They have dumbed you down through your school systems. They have systematically dismantled the constitution. It is in rags.

 

The bill of rights is being systematically dismantled. Men have spilled their blood for those rights.

 

Your sons and daughters, your brothers and sisters, and Americas best young men and women are loosing their limbs. They are loosing their lives. They are loosing the hearts. They do not know why they are fighting. They are killing. And they do not know why.

 

They have done some extroadinary acts. Their deeds go before them. But these wars are lies. They are lies. They decieved our entire nation with terrorism. They have gotten us to hand them our rights. Our Rights! Men died for those rights!

 

September Eleventh was an inside job. They blew up a third building in broad daylight. Building 7.

 

Your leaders betrayed you.

 

You elected an aristocracy. They are beholden to special interests. They were brainwashed through the Council on Foreign Relations. Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one world banking system. They want to put computer chips in you.

 

These men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate facism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic.

 

There is hope. BUT WE MUST TAKE OUR REPUBLIC BACK.

And they will continue to get persecuted...until enough of us wake up and start supporting them & voting our rogue gov out of office!!!

Sen. Rand Paul, the most famous libertarian in Congress, has written a fiery op-ed in The Guardian condemning President Obama for the massive surveillance, which he calls unconstitutional.

On Thursday, I announced my Fourth Amendment Restoration Act of 2013, which ensures that no government agency can search the phone records of Americans without a warrant based on probable cause. We shall see how many join me in supporting a part of the Bill of Rights that everyone in Congress already took an oath to uphold.

 

 

Edited June 13, 2013 by vortex

[ralis]

[gendao]

YES Obama...we "should" keep trusting in a stalker gov that has lied to us repeatedly about...well, everything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGtY_xa-9B0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ss2_0emOY

Or there will be "problems?"

Edited June 11, 2013 by vortex

[Marblehead]

I have nothing more to say at the moment. Repeating myself is redundant. Hehehe.

 

I did notice this morning in the news that the government said basically, yes, we lied to you but we're not going to stop. (Yes, I paraphrased that.)

[zerostao]

and there is not much of a public outcry against the lying and the spying,

not really even a whimper.

in fact some are calling for more govt involvement into our private lives if it can prevent one terrorist attack.

[johndoe2012]

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Edited August 18, 2013 by chris d

[joeblast]

and there is not much of a public outcry against the lying and the spying,

not really even a whimper.

in fact some are calling for more govt involvement into our private lives if it can prevent one terrorist attack.

and nevermind that 2/3rds of "prevented" "attacks" are merely FBI/CIA "sting" operations where they're simply trying to entice someone into perhaps committing a crime.

[joeblast]

perhaps the executives at at&t & verizon didnt want to wind up like Nacchio from QWest after having denied the NSA spying privileges

 

https://mailman.stanford.edu/pipermail/liberationtech/2013-June/008815.html

[Marblehead]

and accumulated energetic weaknesses due to being reborn and never getting enlightened. Source: chris d

Thanks for citing your source. Hehehe.

[ralis]

Appears that Snowden may be granted asylum by the Russians. In exchange for?

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014505919

[ralis]

How many attacks has the security infrastructure prevented? NSA didn't prevent 9/11!

 

Department of Homeland Security needs to be deleted. 60 billion plus budget. What a waste of money!

[ralis]

Edited June 11, 2013 by ralis

[ralis]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014505119

 

 

Edited June 11, 2013 by ralis

[Marblehead]

How many attacks has the security infrastructure prevented? NSA didn't prevent 9/11!

 

Department of Homeland Security needs to be deleted. 60 billion plus budget. What a waste of money!

Those 60 billions didn't prevent the Boston bombing either. And they had indicators they could have worked with. If you don't do the work the work doesn't get done. But a lot of people get paid big bucks for sitting on their ass pretending that they are important.