The War on Kids

[eye_of_the_storm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-tAQ56-gaA&feature=player_embedded#!

[zanshin]

Bricks in the wall.

 

IRonic that, although home schooling has potential to be better, in reality often even worse since tends to be done by very religious and restrictive parents. Kids don't even get opportunity to talk smack with other kids about authority.

 

And the video didn't even get into silliness of organized kids sports. Might be a lot more fun if there was maybe some mandatory light sedation for certain adults.

[GrandmasterP]

Home schooled kids are bright as buttons when they come to us for post compulsory education.

Our sister college offers 16-19 access to HE which is popular as they tend not to do GCSEs at home they use bought in curriculum such as the ACE.

All of them are super bright, interested, polite and engaged with the concept of work. Even the fundie ones are well adjusted, and all academically well in front of the school educated kids.

Never yet met a home schooled kid who wasn't head and shoulders above the school raised.

My student teachers love teaching 'em.

Give me a class full of home schooled teenagers any day of the week.

Nice work if you can get it.

The miserable, entitled, glued to their iPhone.. grumpy little gits the schools turn out are non-starters compared to home schooled.

Edited January 22, 2013 by GrandmasterP

[Immortal4life]

Cool, thanks for that documentary.

 

Obviously home schooling would be much better than going to a public school. You would never get wrapped into all the social maneuvering, backstabbing, competition, rumor spreading, bullying etc. You would turn out to be a much better, more spiritual person. You would have much less stress in your life. You might even have the time to enjoy learning or pay attention to the content of what you're learning.

 

The problem is once you've had a taste of the competition, the hot ass girls, the excitement, the partying, you can never go back. To do home school would seem like bitching out, leaving the bad people to have free reign, to get all the hottest girls, with no one to stand in their way and take the top spots from them. You would miss out on a lot. It's like they say in sports, never take yourself out of the game.

Edited January 23, 2013 by Immortal4life

[GrandmasterP]

The kids who were together in school know each other.

The home schooled kids have that novelty value, they tend to be really popular.

Also the home schooled kids by and large are more grounded somehow, boys especially are just so much more mature at 16 than most of the school raised lads.

[Immortal4life]

Don't unified social groups usually attack non conformists?

 

How could that be that home schoolers become popular and confident? Where would they have learned to navigate social heirarchies, climb to the top, and win in life? Where would they learn to be ruthless in the quest for social status? Where would they be exposed to partying and being social? What girls would they have banged? How can you be confident and mature if you don't win out over other guys and get a lot of hot girls?

 

I'm pretty sure the main factor in how confident you grow up to be is whether you have banged hot girls before you are 16 vs. still being a loser at 16 and not being able to get girls easily. Guys who bang girls by the time they are 14, as a general rule, grow up to be super confident. Guys who don't until they are 18 or older, as a general rule grow up to be insecure and unconfident

Edited January 22, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Protector]

eh, if I were younger, I would have fought on the kids side BUT I'M TOO OLD NOW

 

and adults don't want to think about homework and the like after the school is over because it's not their problem anymore

imagine the future, "WHAT? YOU SPOILED BRATS! IN MY DAY WE HAD HOMEWORK, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT WAS LIKE!"

[Immortal4life]

Actually, some teachers spend their weekends and nights marking homework and tests. Which IMO is a pretty chode thing to do. Teachers are bad role models for kids, and shouldn't be viewed as role models because they were probably losers themselves.

 

So you have 2 types of teachers. On the one hand, assholes who hate kids and want to make them all get in line, and hate kids standing out.

 

On the other hand, you have pussies who don't like "confict" or "competition" even though they are facts of life, teachers who society has scammed but yet still don't like the boat being rocked, and hate kids standing out.

Edited January 22, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Protector]

I had lots of evil teachers, it was like the whole class came together to fight them. Then I moved to Canada and everyone here was a wimp and I started to miss the old teachers. Now I kinda look up to this kind of teacher:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Md0bGSrzlw

 

OK, I'm definitely looking up now

[Owledge]

Don't generalize cause and effect. Home-schooled kids might be so much 'healthier' not because of the home-schooling per se, but because people who choose to home-school are a different kind of parents.

[Aetherous]

 

Obviously home schooling would be much better than going to a public school. You would never get wrapped into all the social maneuvering, backstabbing, competition, rumor spreading, bullying etc. You would turn out to be a much better, more spiritual person. You would have much less stress in your life. You might even have the time to enjoy learning or pay attention to the content of what you're learning.

 

To be spiritual is to overcome these things, not be hidden from them (until you reach adulthood, at which point you must deal with them anyway).

 

My cousins were home-schooled, and they turned out somewhat fine...except that they have no qualifications or real work experience (not because of home-schooling, but probably because they didn't feel the same need as everyone else to go to college etc). They tend to not care so much about how they will get money or if they have enough...working small jobs like nanny or a farmers market. Besides that aspect, they actually have lived pretty cool lives.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Social aspects would come from casual work

and team/ club sports

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To education your own children... is the responsibility of every parent... I think

The system is corrupt to the core as per ^^ and many other documentaries + papers etc

Basically handing your kids over to the devil (figuratively speaking)

I've read a lot of positive things about homeschooling

Edited January 23, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[joeblast]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57565195/adhd-diagnosis-rates-up-24-percent-over-decade/

 

ADHD diagnosis rates up 24 percent over decade

 

The number of children diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) skyrocketed 24 percent between 2001 and 2010, a new study conducted by Kaiser Permanente reveals.

 

Compiled statistics show that 4.9 percent of children between the ages of 5 to 11 who were patients at Kaiser Permamente Southern California branches between 2001 and 2010 were diagnosed with ADHD.

 

The overall rate of ADHD diagnosis was found to be 3.1 percent of children, up from 2.5 percent in 2001.

The study was published Jan. 21 in JAMA Pediatrics.

ADHD is the most commonly diagnosed behavioral disorder in children, and affects an estimated 3 to 5 percent of school-aged kids according to the National Institutes of Health. Traditionally, it is diagnosed more in boys than girls. While some researchers believe ADHD might run in families, there is no clear cause.

 

Symptoms include having a hard time paying attention, daydreaming, not listening, being easily distracted, forgetfulness, inability to stay still, talking too much, not being able to play quietly, acting and speaking without thinking, having trouble taking turns and frequently interrupting others, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report. Most children with ADHD have another developmental or behavioral problem as well.

 

The study involved the electronic health records of 850,000 children in total. Researchers discovered that white and black children were most likely to be diagnosed, with rates reaching 5.6 and 4.1 percent of their populations respectively in 2010.

In addition, the number of black children between the ages of 5 to 11 who received a new ADHD diagnosis rose from 2.6 percent in 2001 to 4.1 percent in 2010, a surprising 70 percent increase. Newly-diagnosed Hispanic children's rates went up 60 percent from 1.7 to 2.5 percent in the same period. White children's diagnosis rates rose from 4.7 percent in 2001 to 5.6 percent in 2010 -- up 30 percent -- while Asian/Pacific Islander and other ethnic group rates stayed the same.

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Boys were three times more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than girls, and children of families with a household income of more than $30,000 a year were 20 percent more likely to have a diagnosis than those who made less money.

 

"While the reasons for increasing ADHD rates are not well understood, contributing factors may include heightened awareness of ADHD among parents and physicians, which could have led to increased screening and treatment," Dr. Darios Getahun, from Kaiser Permanente Southern California's Department of Research & Evaluation, said in a press release. "This variability may indicate the need for different allocation of resources for ADHD prevention programs, and may point to new risk factors or inequalities in care."

 

Dr. Roberto Tuchman, director of the autism and neurodevelopment program at Miami Children's Hospital in Florida, told HealthDay agreed rates have risen because people are recognizing the disorder more. He was not involved in the study.

"As we get more sophisticated in our ability to recognize the symptoms and the behaviors that constitute ADHD, we are beginning to identify more people with it," he said.

 

He felt, however, that the disorder may be overdiagnosed in wealthier groups, and that more outreach is needed in poor communities.

 

"We see privileged children who are in very competitive schools and there is tremendous pressure to perform better, and this may result in diagnosis of ADHD," he said.

 

One expert felt the increase in rates was due to less acceptance of "rowdier" kids at school.

 

"There's always been some kids who are more active than others," said Dr. Eric Hollander, director of the Autism and Obsessive Compulsive Spectrum Program at Montefiore Medical Center in New York who wasn't involved with Kaiser study, said to the Wall Street Journal.

 

"There's less of a tolerance for rough-and-tumble these days so more kids are being referred for treatment," he said.

[Protector]

CHEESE LOGS!!!

[Owledge]

CDHD - Civil Disobedience Hyperawareness Disorder

[Immortal4life]

 

 

Suicide pills.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Immortal4life

[eye_of_the_storm]

Mind control

[Immortal4life]

Mind control is out of control.