WillingToListen Posted January 22, 2013 These last couple weeks I've been getting little sleep. I'm averaging around 3-4 hours of sleep a day. I feel fine but, I'm growing concerned that this may start having a detrimental effect on my being- on my life. Does anyone have any recommendations or experience with this? Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 22, 2013 I tend to meditate through it. It doesn't bring me any more sleep. I'm guessing being (mostly) indoors is contributing to it. I'd be interested in other ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shagrath Posted January 22, 2013 Pray to optimize your sleep. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hydrogen Posted January 22, 2013 I had similar experience for a while. My sleep pattern changed since. Â I always wake up around 3am. I used to get upset and take a long time to rest. I felt drained in the morning. Â I read somewhere that's the "normal" sleep pattern for the human in the old days. I felt better. Â Now, I just relax and meditate. I fall back to sleep very soon. Â Do your kundalini excercises only pump chi upward? Too much fire in the head might cause insomnia. You might want to do some excercises to bring the chi down from head. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted January 22, 2013 If you aren't feeling sleep deprived, then there's no problem here. For whatever reason your body simply needs less sleep now. Just use the extra time usefully. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 22, 2013 I'm not into 'productivity' LOL. But I don't seem to worry about not sleeping too much either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted January 22, 2013 Pray to who/what? Pray to Fresh Air Jesus. A brisk walk and some fresh air every day will have you sleeping like a baby. Keep away from caffeines too. Decaff's your friend, all else is wakeful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shagrath Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Pray to who/what?  Like there are 1000 things to pray to  The is only one Truth and yet there are manu names for it God/Tao/Absolute/Universe/Creator/ Brahma/Ishvara/JHVH/True Identity/etc. Edited January 22, 2013 by Shagrath 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted January 22, 2013 Keep away from caffeines too.  Decaff's your friend, all else is wakeful. i am caffeine sensitive and decaf definitely gives me a caffeine buzz too. i would just stick to water, especially with kundalini issues  do some belly breathing. not worrying is probably the best, most self-regulating thing you can do right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted January 22, 2013 If wakeful isnt wasteful, then caffeine avoidance is meaningless.I drink 1+ pot of coffee per day and sleep well on the nights i do sufficient practice, weather or not it is simple stretching or deep contemplation...Seems thinking is as much an exhausting effort as weight lifting if done right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 22, 2013 Like there are 1000 things to pray to  The is only one Truth and yet there are manu names for it God/Tao/Absolute/Universe/Creator/ Brahma/Ishvara/JHVH/True Identity/etc.  Um, agreed there's one truth. Don't agree the names all mean it. They do other stuff. But that's beside the point. I drink one cup of coffee in the morning. One.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted January 22, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Health_effects  among the most relevant to this thread of those effects, vasoconstriction. if you are doing any kind of energy work or stretching caffeine is going to hinder you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted January 22, 2013 there's a yoga studio in my town that i read reviews for where someone posted "I love this studio, because there's a coffee house right next door and i can grab a coffee on the way out" Said yoga studio also offers a coupon for free pizza if you take ten classes there i believe  nothing wrong with any of this, i just think the idea of "oh i did something good for myself, now i'll reward myself by undoing the benefits" is a little silly to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillingToListen Posted January 22, 2013 Thank you all for the helpful input! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for the link. I don't believe the amount of caffeine in my one cup (ok, 'mug') goes very far, however it's an interesting alley. There was a neat thread on coffee a while back. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted January 22, 2013 I'm not into 'productivity' LOL. But I don't seem to worry about not sleeping too much either. Â haha brilliant, five stars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted January 22, 2013 To Willingtolisten. Â I especially struggle with this during fasts, and used to anyways. Â One thing that makes me feel sleepy is a long period of sitting meditation or spontaneous movement before bed. Ill just plop to sleep. Â peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shagrath Posted January 22, 2013 Um, agreed there's one truth. Don't agree the names all mean it. They do other stuff. But that's beside the point. Â You're right. Some of the names I listed are just descriptive concept that mostly atheist people use and some are just manifestations of consciousness. True synonyms are Tao, Self, God, Emptiness, Ishvara, Brahman, Reality,... Â Emptiness written with lower case (emptiness) represents the state without thought and emotion, on the other hand with upper case (Emptiness) is synonym for already listed words and it cannot be described. The thing is with self. Self refers to true identity while self is ego/mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike 134 Posted January 22, 2013 Damn I remember those days, getting 3 hours of sleep a night for months. It totally sucked. I was taking all kinds of sleeping pills. Insomnia is the worst damn symptom you can get and it totally screws you up. Try OTC sleep aids, and figure out why you can't sleep. Don't attribute anything to 'kundalini' until you've ruled out other causes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 23, 2013 Damn I remember those days, getting 3 hours of sleep a night for months. It totally sucked. I was taking all kinds of sleeping pills. Insomnia is the worst damn symptom you can get and it totally screws you up. Try OTC sleep aids, and figure out why you can't sleep. Don't attribute anything to 'kundalini' until you've ruled out other causes. Â I did go through a worse version of it, but I also cared more at the time. Got that fixed via acupuncture. This time it's just mildly annoying. There's other more annoying stuff left but what I'm learning is that it tends to be related to stuff I'm doing. Or not doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 23, 2013 Don't have bright or unnatural lights for a few hours before you plan to go to bed. No laptop or tv...but if you do use those things, get blue light filters and you should be okay (I don't have these but plan to get them soon when I can afford it). Read some books maybe if you don't have those filters...stories are relaxing and good and can take you to another place (begin the dreaming process)...but on the other hand, nonfiction stuff you're passionate about may be too stimulating. Making plans will be way too stimulating at that time.Sleep with your windows covered in dark blinds so that absolutely no light comes in. Cover all electronic lights, so the room is completely pitch black. Â Don't have any caffeine, chocolate, or other stimulants past noon. Drink a lot of water...that will ensure that your body temperature is normal...too hot and you may find yourself being kept up. Use breathable cotton sheets. Taking a lukewarm bath might help cool the body off so that sleep is easier...hot or cold will have the opposite effect.Get a couple hours of exercise each day in the morning or afternoon...so that you will be tired. This one is very important.There are other tips online...go for public knowledge solutions rather than esoteric ones. Something like qi practice or meditation can at times make you sleepy, but other times make you wide awake for days! My experience has been that it's good to stop all spiritual practices, and take care of physical health first. Get mundane. Get sleep. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted January 23, 2013 Hey WTL, Â I might have mentioned to you that while my kundalini was active, my nervous system was on high voltage & although I slept, I was very active within my sleep astrally. I didnt have any advice at the time energetically & was wondering if someone else might suggest one here. Is the micro-cosmic orbit applicable? Â I once lived with a very energetic guy who often couldnt get to sleep & I would brew him up a concoction of home grown valerian tea. Neither of us could ever stay awake long enought to make it to the bottom of the cup 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 23, 2013 Valerian tea is great. It's super stinky. Need airtight storage option:-) Â I used (and still do a bit) MCO 'like asprin' while going through the rough stuff. Â Thanks to Turtle shell for the suggestions:-) Good stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillingToListen Posted January 25, 2013 I did go through a worse version of it, but I also cared more at the time. Got that fixed via acupuncture. This time it's just mildly annoying. There's other more annoying stuff left but what I'm learning is that it tends to be related to stuff I'm doing. Or not doing. Â Did acupuncture work to solve your sleeping/insomnia problem? Â Â I REALLY WANT MY SLEEP BACK ((((((((((((( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
