SEEKER OF TRUTH Posted January 27, 2013 Hi there. I guess this is something that I've been curious about since I was a kid and often wonder what other people think about it. Why are we here? Where did we come from? Are we just products of evolution, or is there more to it than that? There seem to be some mysterious things, in the history of humanity, on planet Earth, like the Pyramids and Sphinx in Egypt and Mexico, or that place in Bolivia, I think it was, that is supposed to be 30,000 years or older and we still don't have the technology today, to make the cuts in stone that were done so long ago. Not to put the Bible down, but according to it, this planet isn't very old and those dinosaur bones are sure suspicious to me. What about the Bhagavad Gita and what appears to be a war in the sky? Many things seem to have been explained away, so as not to cause a disturbance, but I can't help but wonder never the less. Anyway, just wondering what others were curious about and if anyone knows the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Read 'The Attention Revolution' by Alan Wallace, and get started on the path to direct experience! Bill Bodri is also good, there's a link to his site in my signature. Aside from that, think deeply from every angle before coming to conclusions, question your deepest assumptions... and in this internet age, be strongly on guard against pseudoscience and rumours passed off as fact. As for what the truth is, I suggest looking into anatman, sunyata and dialectical monism as food for thought. Edited January 27, 2013 by Seeker of the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted January 27, 2013 my theory is that there is no great truth, but spirituality is the search for the direct experience of that. So it isn't a matter of "nothing to do, already enlightened" because you haven't fully realized and experienced it for yourself just by being told just my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted January 27, 2013 Hi there. I guess this is something that I've been curious about since I was a kid and often wonder what other people think about it. Why are we here? Where did we come from? Are we just products of evolution, or is there more to it than that? I'll share the following truth, but it is up to you to realize it,...you will never understand Who you are, until you are aware of When you are. Here's a hint,..."all matter is frozen or slowed down light" David Bohm According to Buddhism, truth is something that will always be unrealized within the 6 senses. The 6 senses can only perceive motion,..."Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are a part of the mystery that we are trying to solve." Max Planck There is one fellow around that guarentees Truth Realization in 2 years,...if you follow his simple, single instruction; That "simple, single instruction" can be found within here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 27, 2013 ..."all matter is frozen or slowed down light" David Bohm I call this the 'condensed milk analogy'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adept Posted January 27, 2013 The questions are more important than the answers. The truth is what you make it. The journey and the destination are one. Best wishes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmonious Emptiness Posted January 27, 2013 What is true now that has always been true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted January 27, 2013 The questions are more important than the answers. The truth is what you make it. The journey and the destination are one. Best wishes. I like this. I also like- we are the result of a long line of perfectly timed accidents . Cause if I tell you the truth is you're the result of an alien hybrid experiment 120,000 years ago does it really effect you? Or you're a cross breed of angels and demons, will you live life differently? bad day at the condom factory. Would you even believe me? Unless you see me conversing in public with said alien or demon I hope you'd have some level of skepticism. Why are we here? Don't know. I suspect its not necessarily a grandiose answer and that we need to live our lives in a way that answers the question cause words won't do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted January 27, 2013 Pyrrhonists believe that true wisdom and happiness lie in the suspension of judgement, since absolute knowledge is impossible to gain. Truth is subjective, and that's the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 27, 2013 More truths please. I am so in need of the truth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsun Posted January 27, 2013 I currently like the idea of two truths not just the one truth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_truths_doctrine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 27, 2013 I currently like the idea of two truths not just the one truth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_truths_doctrine I can't argue against that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted January 27, 2013 The Truth that can be told is not the eternal Truth (FFS!!!! - I thought that you were all Taoists here!!! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 27, 2013 The Truth that can be told is not the eternal Truth (FFS!!!! - I thought that you were all Taoists here!!! ) Hey! We are looking for the other Truth, the one that can be told. Hehehe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted January 27, 2013 Hey! We are looking for the other Truth, the one that can be told. Hehehe. You'd be the first one out of here if Aaron gets his way. Wait................is it too late to change my vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEEKER OF TRUTH Posted January 27, 2013 Hey! We are looking for the other Truth, the one that can be told. Hehehe. Not necessarily, I wouldn't mind if a few people took a stab at the one that can't be told. I'm starting to feel my oats in abstract thinking. It's funny, every time I see that verse, after watching the movie "A Few Good Men", I get this picture in my mind of Jack Nicholson screaming "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH." Old Jack might be right, but I'm willing to give it a try anyway. Thanks for all the great responses everyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 27, 2013 You'd be the first one out of here if Aaron gets his way. Wait................is it too late to change my vote? Hehehe. Yeah, your ass is right behind mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted January 27, 2013 Not necessarily, I wouldn't mind if a few people took a stab at the one that can't be told. I'm starting to feel my oats in abstract thinking. It's funny, every time I see that verse, after watching the movie "A Few Good Men", I get this picture in my mind of Jack Nicholson screaming "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH." Old Jack might be right, but I'm willing to give it a try anyway. Thanks for all the great responses everyone. Get over to the Vedanta forum - Cheeky_Boy is always willing to help out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted January 27, 2013 Hehehe. Yeah, your ass is right behind mine. Yeah!!!! Go back and have a look - it won't be long now!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Marblehead Posted January 27, 2013 Not necessarily, I wouldn't mind if a few people took a stab at the one that can't be told. That's easy. The reason that the Truth cannot be told (spoken of) is that there are none (Absolute Truth). Buddhists handle this rather well with their concept of impermanence (as I understand it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted January 27, 2013 That's easy. The reason that the Truth cannot be told (spoken of) is that there are none (Absolute Truth). Buddhists handle this rather well with their concept of impermanence (as I understand it). <pulls up chair - waits for the Buddhism v Taoism WW3 to kick-off > Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted January 28, 2013 The questions are more important than the answers. The truth is what you make it. The journey and the destination are one. Best wishes. Relative truth is what you make it,... "Relative and absolute, These the two truths are declared to be. The absolute is not within the reach of intellect, For the intellect is grounded in the relative." Shantideva The answer lies in the dissolution of the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted January 28, 2013 What is true now that has always been true? Sure,...but who has been to the Now,...the instant,...to observe the truth? Until one lets go of the attachment to the 6 senses (which can only observe the past), to say the truth is within the Now is merely a belief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites