Trolling and Off-topic disruptions

[Immortal4life]

I think the real issue here is.......

 

 

Why do threads about WWE Wrestling get sent to the Pit? Who is behind this?

[Immortal4life]

Ok, while I am sympathetic to Seth Ananda's and the Joker's views about this issue, and probably am more on their side... I cannot agree with what they want as far as suspensions and moderator action.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

Is it any wonder, from a spiritual point of view, that the topic of transgender has become popular today?

It is certainly not any wonder, for reasons which you mention, and others.

[Seth Ananda]

Ok, while I am sympathetic to Seth Ananda's and the Joker's views about this issue, and probably am more on their side... I cannot agree with what they want as far as suspensions and moderator action.

Do you feel that suspension or banning are justified for Racism?

 

if so, I sincerely Invite you to investigate why you feel there is a difference between hating a person for their race, compared to hating them for the sexual orientation they have had since birth.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Here is a list of some references from the website I linked... I think this should suffice (you will notice a good number of government studies)

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1. Bill Roundy, "STD Rates on the Rise," New York Blade News, December 15, 2000, p. 1.

2. "Increases in Unsafe Sex and Rectal Gonorrhea among Men Who Have Sex with Men--San Francisco, California, 1994-1997," Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Report (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), January 29, 1999, p. 45.

3. Ibid.

4. Ulysses Torassa, "Some With HIV Aren't Disclosing Before Sex; UCSF Researcher's 1,397-person Study Presented During aids Conference," The San Francisco Examiner (July 15, 2000).

5. Jon Garbo, "Gay and Bi Men Less Likely to Disclose They Have HIV," GayHealth News (July 18, 2000). Available at: www.gayhealth.com/templates/0/news?record=136.

6. Ibid.

7. Jon Garbo, "Risky Sex Common Among Gay Club and Bar Goers," GayHealth News (January 3, 2001). Available at: www.gayhealth.com/templates/97863827496203.../ index.html?record=35.

8. "Bisexuals Serve as 'Bridge' Infecting Women With HIV," Reuters News Service (July 30, 2000). Available at: www.mb.com/ph/scty/2000%2D07/sc073004.asp.

9. A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 9; see alsoBell, Weinberg and Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981).

10. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354. Dr. Paul Van de Ven reiterated these results in a private conversation with Dr. Robert Gagnon on September 7, 2000.

11. "Survey Finds 40 percent of Gay Men Have Had More Than 40 Sex Partners," Lambda Report, January/February 1998, p. 20.

12. M. Pollak, "Male Homosexuality," in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, edited by P. Aries and A. Bejin, pp. 40-61, cited by Joseph Nicolosi in Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality (Northvale, New Jersey: Jason Aronson Inc., 1991), pp. 124, 25.

13. David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice-Hall, 1984), pp. 252, 3.

14. M. Saghir and E. Robins, Male and Female Homosexuality (Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1973), p. 225; L.A. Peplau and H. Amaro, "Understanding Lesbian Relationships," in Homosexuality: Social, Psychological, and Biological Issues, edited byJ. Weinrich and W. Paul (Beverly Hills: Sage, 1982).

15. A.P.M. Coxon et al., "Sex Role Separation in Diaries of Homosexual Men," AIDS, July 1993, pp. 877-882.

16. G. J. Hart et al., "Risk Behaviour, Anti-HIV and Anti-Hepatitis B Core Prevalence in Clinic and Non-clinic Samples of Gay Men in England, 1991-1992," AIDS, July 1993, pp. 863-869, cited in "Homosexual Marriage: The Next Demand," Position Analysis paper by Colorado for Family Values, May 1994.

17. Bill Roundy, "STDs Up Among Gay Men: CDC Says Rise is Due to HIV Misperceptions," The Washington Blade (December 8, 2000). Available at: www.washblade.com/health/a.

18. Richard A. Zmuda, "Rising Rates of Anal Cancer for Gay Men," Cancer News (August 17, 2000). Available at: cancerlinksusa.com/cancernews_sm/Aug2000 /081700analcancer.

19. "Studies Point to Increased Risks of Anal Cancer," The Washington Blade (June 2, 2000). Available at: www.washblade.com/health/000602hm.

20. Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Report (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) September 4, 1998, p. 708.

21. "Viral Hepatitus B--Frequently Asked Questions," National Center for Infectious Diseases (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)September 29, 2000. Available at: www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.

22. "Hepatitus C: Epidemiology: Transmission Modes" Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Report (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) 1998.Available at: www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis /c/edu/1/default.htm.

23. "Gonorrhea," Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (Centers For Disease Control and Prevention) September, 2000. Available at: www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/ Fact_Sheets/FactsGonorrhea.htm.

24. "Increases in Unsafe Sex and Rectal Gonorrhea."

25. Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Report (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) January 29, 1999, p. 48.

26. J. Vincelette et al., "Predicators of Chlamydial Infection and Gonorrhea among Patients Seen by Private Practitioners," Canadian Medical Association Journal 144 (1995): 713-721.

27. SPR Jebakumar et al., "Value of Screeningfor Oropharyngeal Chlamydia Trachomatis Infection," Journal of Clinical Pathology 48 (1995): 658-661.

28. "Some Facts about Syphilis," Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)October 1999. Available at: www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/ Fact_Sheets/Syphilis_Facts.

29. "Syphilis Elimination: History in the Making," Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)October 1999. Available at: www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Fact_Sheets/Syphilis_Facts.

30. C. M. Hutchinson et al., "Characteristics of Patients with Syphilis Attending Baltimore STD Clinics," Archives of Internal Medicine 151 (1991): 511-516.

31. "Syphilis Elimination."

32. Homosexual advocates object to the use of this term (Gay Bowel Syndrome), which they say unfairly stigmatizes homosexual behavior. Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality (Austin: The Medical Institute for Sexual Health, 1999), p. 55.

33. "STD Treatment Guidelines: Proctitis, Proctocolitis, and Enteritis," (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) 1993. Available at: /www.ama-assn.org/special/std /treatmnt/guide/stdg3470.htm.

34. Jack Morin, Anal Pleasure and Health: A Guide for Men and Women (San Francisco: Down There Press, 1998), p. 220.

35. Health Implications, p. 56.

36. "STD Treatment Guidelines."

37. Health Implications; See Morin, Anal Pleasure and Health, p. 220, 1.

38. Health Implications.

39. "Table 9. Male Adult/Adolescent AIDS Cases by Exposure Category and Race/Ethnicity, Reported through December 1999, United States," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention: available at: www/cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1102/table9.

40. "HIV/AIDS Among US Women: Minority and Young Women at Continuing Risk," Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention (Centers for Disease Control)November 14, 2000. Available at: www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/women.

41. Ibid.

42. "Studies Point to Increased Risks of Anal Cancer."

43. "Young People at Risk: HIV/AIDS among America's Youth," Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention (Centers for Disease Control)November 14, 2000. Available at: www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/youth.htm.

44. Ibid.

45. Ibid.

46. "Need for Sustained HIV Prevention Among Men who Have Sex with Men," Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention (Centers for Disease Control)November 14, 2000. Available at: www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/msm.

47. "Resurgent Bacterial Sexually Transmitted Disease among Men Who Have Sex with Men--King County, Washington, 1997-1999," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report: Centers for Disease Control, September 10, 1999, pp. 773-777. Available at: www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ mm4835a1.

48. "Need for Sustained HIV Prevention."

49. Bob Roehr, "Anal Cancer and You," Between the Lines News (November 16, 2000). Available at: www.pridesource.com/cgi-bin/article?article=3835560.

50. "Studies Point to Increased Risks of Anal Cancer."

51. Rhonda Smith, "HPV Can be Transmitted between Women," The Washington Blade (December 4, 1998). Available at: www.washblade.com/health/9901011h.

52. Ibid.

53. Katherine Fethers et al., "Sexually Transmitted Infections and Risk Behaviors in Women Who Have Sex with Women," Sexually Transmitted Infections 76 (2000):348.

54. Ibid., p. 347.

55. V. Gonzales, et al., "Sexual and Drug-Use Risk Factors for hiv and STDs: A Comparison of Women with and without Bisexual Experiences," American Journal of Public Health 89 (December 1999): 1846.

56. Ibid.

57. "Bisexuals Serve as 'Bridge' Infecting Women with HIV," Reuters News Service (July 30, 2000).

58. Ibid.

59. "Sexually Transmitted Infections," p. 347.

60. Ibid.

61. Rhonda Smith, "Childbirth Linked with Smaller Breast Tumor Size," The Washington Blade (December 17, 1999). Available at: www.washblade.com/health/000114lh.

62. "HPV can be Transmitted between Women."

63. Katherine Fethers et al., "Sexually Transmitted Infections and Risk Behaviors in Women Who Have Sex with Women," Sexually Transmitted Infections, July 2000, p. 345.

64. Joanne Hall, "Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations," Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238-244.

65. Peter Freiberg, "Study: Alcohol Use More Prevelent for Lesbians," The Washington Blade, January 12, 2001, p. 21.

66. Ibid.

67. Karen Paige Erickson, Karen F. Trocki, "Sex, Alcohol and Sexually Transmitted Diseases: A National Survey," Family Planning Perspectives 26 (December 1994): 261.

68. Ibid.

69. Lettie L. Lockhart et al., "Letting out the Secret: Violence in Lesbian Relationships," Journal of Interpersonal Violence 9 (December 1994): 469-492.

70. Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrier, "Intimate Violence in Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications," Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41-59.

71. D. Island and P. Letellier, Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them: Battered Gay Men and Domestic Violence (New York: Haworth Press, 1991), p. 14.

72. "Violence Between Intimates," Bureau of Justice Statistics Selected Findings, November 1994, p. 2.

73. Health Implications, p. 79.

74. J. Bradford, et al., "National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81.

75. R. Herrell, et al., "A Co-Twin Study in Adult Men," Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (1999): 867-874.

76. D. Fergusson, et al., "Is Sexual Orientation Related to Mental Health Problems and Suicidality in Young People?" Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (October 1999), p. 876-884.

77. Ibid.

78. Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.

79. Quoted in Gabriel Rotello, Sexual Ecology: AIDS and the Destiny of Gay Men (New York: Penguin Books, 1997), p. 286.

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[2] Ellen C. Perrin, et al., “Technical Report: Coparent or Second-Parent Adoption by Same-Sex Parents,” Pediatrics, 109(2): 341-344 (2002).

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[Immortal4life]

 

Do you feel that suspension or banning are justified for Racism?

 

if so, I sincerely Invite you to investigate why you feel there is a difference between hating a person for their race, compared to hating them for the sexual orientation they have had since birth.

What is racism? If I post a rap video by "N.W.A" is that posting racism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A

 

I would not be opposed to a suspension because someone used hate speech against homosexuals. I just personally haven't seen it to the point I ever felt a need to call someone out. I would also say that, even if I think something is horrible, I wouldn't necessarily call for it to be modded. Do you think Tao Bums makes any difference in the grand scheme of things? Are you also going to go to every discussion forum on the internet and crusade against all homophobes? Maybe that would be a good idea! If we are concerned about society or the public opinion, we should be on reddit and hundreds of other sites pushing agendas. I don't expect others to ever help me and I always take responsibility for promoting ideas I like and attacking ideas I don't like when they affect me.

 

Perhaps my view just isn't as focused on society, social justice, political debates, or making a political point. I just worry about myself a lot of the time.

 

I think if modding was taken to the extreme you might want it to go, the integrity of the forum could suffer. It's a spiritual and religious forum, and sometimes spirituality can be at odds with society or be associated with controversial views. This is where debate happens, and debating is in my opinion the answer, not censorship. While I respect gay rights and am against discrimination, I also respect free speech and think it is a fine line here.

 

No one should judge anyone else on their sexuality, and everyone has both male and female aspects to them.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

[JustARandomPanda]

there was no 'reason' or logic involved in the posts. It was nothing but a deliberate attempt to defame a minority for being different.

 

for instance, logic would insist on looking up the source of the posts. {right wing anti gay activists}

 

Or in the case of the 'homosexuals' WWROA quoted, one would consider that there must be many types of personalities each with their own views, within the Gay community, and not one of them in any way defines the whole Gay community itself.

 

Instead, unreasonably and illogically, WWROA presented it as being indicative of Gay culture as a whole.

 

He also presented it as if being Gay was actually a choice that 'education' could correct.

 

 

He and his friends stand guilty of Personally attacking every Gay person in the world, by attacking who they actually are.

 

There must be repercussions.

 

This is exactly the same kind of Bigotry as Race Bigotry and can not be allowed to slide.

 

Hating and attacking someone for who they are.

 

Scotty and OolongRabbit did something similar over a year ago. They made posts that many female TTBs found explicitly sexist and the sources used to back up their statements were deemed having a not-so-subtly-sexist agenda to boot.

 

Yet despite there being more women on this planet than there are homosexuals no one demanded there be automatic zero-tolerance 6 month suspensions added to the ToS for making sexist posts at TTB. If your ToS rules were in effect Scotty (turtle shell) would not even be posting here anymore.

 

If there's a double standard going on here (who knows...maybe there is) then it's not just against LGBTs.

[Seth Ananda]

Zero Tolerance should totally include Sexism, and any form of hate or bullying over something someone has no control over, like race/sex/sexual orientation.

 

I have reported a number of offensive sexist postings over the years.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Seth Ananda

[Immortal4life]

Like what?

 

Did you get Non Banned? Bastard! lol jk

 

But he was entertaining

Edited February 9, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Apech]

What is racism? ....

 

 

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

[Immortal4life]

Ok, then. Racism is bad, and not true.

 

It makes me think back to something Tupac said and when people accused him of using the N word.

 

Tupac responded," n***a is brothers hanging in the club with gold chains round they neck, but n***er means brothers hanging from a tree with ropes round they neck."

Edited February 9, 2013 by Immortal4life

[eye_of_the_storm]

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
- Voltaire

 

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. -

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Freedom of speech is extremely important for individual liberty: no other right is as important as the right to think what you damn well please--and then talk about it.

http://dreamsinvitro.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/the-importance-of-freedom-of-speech/

". . . there ought to exist the fullest liberty of professing and discussing, as a matter of ethical conviction, any doctrine, however immoral it might be considered."

The worst offence . . . which can be committed by a polemic is to stigmatise those who hold the contrary opinion as bad and immoral men. To calumny of this sort, those who hold any unpopular opinion are peculiarly exposed, because they are in general few and uninfluential, and nobody but themselves feels much interest in seeing justice done them; ... unmeasured vituperation employed on the side of the prevailing opinion really does deter people from professing contrary opinions, and from listening to those who express them.

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/cooray/rights/chap6.htm

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS SACRED

Time people brushed up on it ^^

I advocate for absolutely 0 censorship

----

I have never reported anyone for anything... except Gatito who was insulting himself (as a joke - sorry mods if that annoyed you

(so that doesnt count

) )

I think Mods should only be around for rare tech issues...

We should be showing our moderators the greatest respect for the work they do... for nothing!

If it was me i'd tell all you whinging brats to piss off and go somewhere else if you don't like it.

They have a life too....

Sad that they have to spend most of their time on the TTB babysitting

Edited February 9, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[三江源]

Liar!!

 

Speak to me directly - this is libel!

 

What homophobic comments have I made specifically.

Bumping this one up for clarification to take place.

[三江源]

I'm waiting!!

because gatito is being ignored

[三江源]

EVIDENCE?????????

because we are welcoming here at taobums

[gatito]

Sometimes, I like it when I'm ignored

[Vmarco]

It's curious you state that ad hominem happens frequently here. Had this board included "no impugning, insinuating or condescending posts" in it's list of ToS "thou-shalt-nots" you yourself would have been suspended quite often given how many reports we've received on your posted replies to others here....because...those posts of yours typically fly under the radar. And the mod team is often accused of showing you favoritism for not taking any action. But we also take into account does this person have a post history of making useful contributions to board discussions. Which you have. And so we've leaned in the direction of little to no action.

 

We are not perfect. There is no mod on the team who 'sees like a Bodhisattva' or Celestial Taoist sage (alas). We just try to stay out of the way as much as we can.

 

Interesting post of some behind the scenes activities here,...thanks. By definition, I don't engage in ad hominem, it's bad form,....nor does it matter to me if it's banned or not. My preference would be not,...as it is helpful to me to see the mentality of those I'm interacting with,...sort of what level on Maslow's Heirarchy they are speaking from. Those who regularly use ad hominem, would be pretty low on Maslows scale.

 

No relationship is perfect per say,...the perfection arises in the welcome of the imperfections. A bodhisatta simply welcomes,...bodhi waits only on welcome.

 

So,...you're a "Mod". As I don't have complaints, don't really know who the "mods" are,...but bet you're a good one. And by the way,...my thanks to the "mods" for giving me lots of slack. It is probably difficult for many to see that I love people,...and only dislike beliefs. Regardless of people think,...people are not their beliefs.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Vmarco

[三江源]

It is probably difficult for many to see that I love people,...and only dislike beliefs. Regardless of people think,...people are not their beliefs.

 

The love is embedded in your words and palpable to feel.

[三江源]

Sometimes, I like it when I'm ignored

ignored in a welcoming way, like a stale donut might be. maybe.

[Marblehead]

Sometimes, I like it when I'm ignored

Well, I'm not going to ignore you so you will just have to get used to it.

 

The answer is seventeen.

[Apech]

Well, I'm not going to ignore you so you will just have to get used to it.

 

The answer is seventeen.

 

 

Quite young to lose your virginity.

[GrandmasterP]

Not round Manchester it's not.

Sign outside Droylsden Council House...

 

 

"Happy 30th Nana"

 

[gatito]

Happy 30th to you too Gramps

[gatito]

ignored in a welcoming way, like a stale donut might be. maybe.

 

Nah.

 

That would be rather un-friendly - wouldn't it?