三江源 Posted February 9, 2013 Nah. That would be rather un-friendly - wouldn't it? When do you like to be ignored? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 9, 2013 When do you like to be ignored? Whenever you like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 9, 2013 You could start right now if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted February 9, 2013 If Hitler posted some 'science' on the Jews, from Mein Kamph here and I pressed the 'like' button would it be safe to say that I have racist tendencies? Yes. Especially if I followed him around 'liking' every one of the posts that he quoted from Mein Kamph in. That would make me pretty much one of his Racist supporters. Now while we are on the subject of Hitlers Mein Kamph, how would the Mods feel If I start cut'n'pasting quotes from it about the innately corrupt nature of the Jews? Would i get banned? I wan't to know, because I have this thread in mind.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 9, 2013 Not round Manchester it's not. Sign outside Droylsden Council House... "Happy 30th Nana" Droylsden is in Tameside so it's posh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted February 9, 2013 How by the way is Homophobia not personally Insulting to all Gay people everywhere? The same way that Racism is personally Insulting to anyone of the targeted Race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 9, 2013 Droylsden is in Tameside so it's posh. Port out Starboard Home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 9, 2013 If Hitler posted some 'science' on the Jews, from Mein Kamph here and I pressed the 'like' button would it be safe to say that I have racist tendencies? Yes. Especially if I followed him around 'liking' every one of the posts that he quoted from Mein Kamph in. That would make me pretty much one of his Racist supporters. Now while we are on the subject of Hitlers Mein Kamph, how would the Mods feel If I start cut'n'pasting quotes from it about the innately corrupt nature of the Jews? Would i get banned? I wan't to know, because I have this thread in mind.... What's that internet law about he who mentions Hitler loses the argument. if you posted such stuff I would hope you would get banned ... for tolling as you would just be being provokative ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted February 9, 2013 I hope I would get banned as well, but say it was someone else who was serious, and not trolling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 9, 2013 I hope I would get banned as well, but say it was someone else who was serious, and not trolling? Depends why they were posting that material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 9, 2013 I hope I would get banned as well, but say it was someone else who was serious, and not trolling? I would sincerely hope that you would not get banned my friend. Reasoned discussion and education is always the best way forward, I'm sure you'll agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) What's that internet law about he who mentions Hitler loses the argument. I think you are looking for Godwin's law , but it's not about wining or losing a discussion its about what happens in long discussion threads "Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies is an argument made by Mike Godwin in 1990 that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" Edited February 9, 2013 by Mal Stainkey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted February 9, 2013 Oh I had forgotten the tradition For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whomever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted February 9, 2013 My concern with moving forward is not for the Individual, but for every Gay person in the world. Some friends, some members of my family, and the unknown multi millions. People who have been bashed, murdered, and who have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. People who are socially maligned every day and at every turn. People who would never choose to to be what they are in the face of society's onslaught of hatred against them. My concern is for them. One can spend a decade debating with one Bigot, and they may not change their minds. That decade would be far better spent, making the world safer for Gay people. As we already did {and are still doing} with racism. Society started Banning Racists from their various public speaking platforms. Public shaming tactics, cancelled accounts and various boycotts forced people in power to make public apologies for racist statements, and started to make it safe to be not white. Generations down the track, It is much better to be not white. Not white kids can grow up feeling good about themselves now. Thats far more Important to me than 1 stupid bigot feeling he has the right to spew his vile hatred on others - personally attacking what they are! This is a Major social Justice Issue. The next front is for Gay people to get the same rights as anyone else. The Homophobia of WWROA, Gaito, ET thoughts and others, will die as they die. In silence. And the oppressed people of the world will breath a sigh of relief. Large change like this happens over generations. With the eventual death of the Bigots and their Hatred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted February 10, 2013 I think you are looking for Godwin's law , but it's not about wining or losing a discussion its about what happens in long discussion threads "Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies is an argument made by Mike Godwin in 1990 that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" Yes, but the correlation with Hitler and Bigots is Perfect. Hitler Hated a group of people for Who they were. Anti Gay activists hate a group of people for who they are. Sure Hitler went a few steps further. Into Extreme hate. But Moderate hate was the foundation that Extreme hate grew out of. Hitler didn't start at "lets Kill all the Jews!" His moderate Hate festered over time. anti Gay hate groups dont all want to "Kill All Fags!" But plenty do, and when it comes down to it, the Ideology of Moderate Hate groups {and advocates - like WWROA...} is still Hate, and is the foundation for Extreme Hate groups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 10, 2013 My concern with moving forward is not for the Individual, but for every Gay person in the world. Some friends, some members of my family, and the unknown multi millions. People who have been bashed, murdered, and who have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. People who are socially maligned every day and at every turn. People who would never choose to to be what they are in the face of society's onslaught of hatred against them. My concern is for them. One can spend a decade debating with one Bigot, and they may not change their minds. That decade would be far better spent, making the world safer for Gay people. As we already did {and are still doing} with racism. Society started Banning Racists from their various public speaking platforms. Public shaming tactics, cancelled accounts and various boycotts forced people in power to make public apologies for racist statements, and started to make it safe to be not white. Generations down the track, It is much better to be not white. Not white kids can grow up feeling good about themselves now. Thats far more Important to me than 1 stupid bigot feeling he has the right to spew his vile hatred on others - personally attacking what they are! This is a Major social Justice Issue. The next front is for Gay people to get the same rights as anyone else. The Homophobia of WWROA, Gaito, ET thoughts and others, will die as they die. In silence. And the oppressed people of the world will breath a sigh of relief. Large change like this happens over generations. With the eventual death of the Bigots and their Hatred. This is an internet board and not 'the world'. I am impressed (genuinely) by your passion for this issue and think you should try a political campaign ... or run for parliament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 My concern with moving forward is not for the Individual, but for every Gay person in the world. Some friends, some members of my family, and the unknown multi millions. People who have been bashed, murdered, and who have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. People who are socially maligned every day and at every turn. People who would never choose to to be what they are in the face of society's onslaught of hatred against them. My concern is for them. One can spend a decade debating with one Bigot, and they may not change their minds. That decade would be far better spent, making the world safer for Gay people. As we already did {and are still doing} with racism. Society started Banning Racists from their various public speaking platforms. Public shaming tactics, cancelled accounts and various boycotts forced people in power to make public apologies for racist statements, and started to make it safe to be not white. Generations down the track, It is much better to be not white. Not white kids can grow up feeling good about themselves now. Thats far more Important to me than 1 stupid bigot feeling he has the right to spew his vile hatred on others - personally attacking what they are! This is a Major social Justice Issue. The next front is for Gay people to get the same rights as anyone else. The Homophobia of WWROA, Gaito, ET thoughts and others, will die as they die. In silence. And the oppressed people of the world will breath a sigh of relief. Large change like this happens over generations. With the eventual death of the Bigots and their Hatred. I've removed you from my Friends List and moved you to my Ignore List because I don't feel you're capable of having a rational discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 the only hate group that makes sense is THE people hating government involvement in their lives but on a serious note, if you aren't lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered, then keep your fucking nose the hell out of this shit and leave it for the people it ACTUALLY AFFECTS.and if you think YOU are "affected" simply because your kids are "suddenly" coming out, BOY ARE YOU A SAD LIFELESS WRETCH! we must pity the haters, not hate them back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) and this is on topic in the "Trolling and Off-topic disruptions" thread ? edit to add :: TTB tradition seems to be beat that dead horse until the original topic is forgotten and to cross post anything you are passionate about into whatever active thread you can find. Edited February 10, 2013 by Mal Stainkey 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 I was waiting for someone to notice... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 the only hate group that makes sense is THE people hating government involvement in their lives but on a serious note, if you aren't lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered, then keep your fucking nose the hell out of this shit and leave it for the people it ACTUALLY AFFECTS. and if you think YOU are "affected" simply because your kids are "suddenly" coming out, BOY ARE YOU A SAD LIFELESS WRETCH! we must pity the haters, not hate them back. Whose kids are coming out? My kids are as straight as a die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 So......Northern Avid Judo Ant Which are you are you: lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 10, 2013 all of the above/not applicable. im more curious about everyone else who are all up in this.Far as I know, to my knowledge, flofolil or however it is is the only gay member on TTB, but im not interested IN PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES so I wouldn't know for sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 10, 2013 all of the above/not applicable. im more curious about everyone else who are all up in this. Far as I know, to my knowledge, flofolil or however it is is the only gay member on TTB, but im not interested IN PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES so I wouldn't know for sure. Then perhaps you'd better follow your own advice sonny. It's a bit too hot in here for the likes of you - I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites