Ho' oponopono -- Improving the World by Loving Yourself

[Xienkula1]

For those of you who are interested, and in the area, I am offering a free lecture on Ho'oponopono and the history of Huna,à

please check it out and would be wonderful to make your aquaintance

 

http://on.fb.me/UvgKQd

 

I love offering this for free, as that was the original way. I didn't study with Joe Vitale, I learned from Ihaleakala Hew Len and I found this practice to be extremely valuable, and the scope of the practice has evolved for me beyond what was learned in the original. I have shared this with others and the results have been tremendously encouraging and beyond placebo. If you have any questions PM me and I will be delighted to respond.

 

ALOHA

[Xienkula1]

Yes there are correlations check out Kyriacos Markides' Mountain of Silence which talks about the eastern orthodox tradition of Mount Athos and the phenomenal healings that could be accomplished through the heart. Also, read Magus of Stravolos by Markides, and you find a lot of correspondance in ho'oponopono, a discussion of elementals or thought forms we create that can either hurt or help us and how they can affect our psyche that parallels Ho'oponopono. Also Daddy Brae Hawaiian Kahuna talks a lot about the power of prayer and the role of the Aumakua or higher self in Healing. Check out the Tibetan Buddhist practice of Tonglen, where you literally breath in anothers pain and suffering, hold your breath and transform it into compassion, lotuses, freedom, and breathe it back out to them purified. One by one you work with those suffering in your life and you help them in this way. Lepers were said to have healed themselves with this practice in Tibet.

Does anyone simply find correlation between different practices? I've seen similar forgiveness practices in esoteric Catholism. Although they normally involve Saints or Jesus Christ somewhere in the middle of the process.

[Xienkula1]

This Internal Family Systems therapy is similar to Family Constellation Therapy and bears similarity to Ho'oponopono, in that there is a focus on the Self-Identity being composed of three parts, the conscious mind or Uhane who plays the role of mother whose job is to nuture one's true purpose and be the reflection of the truest self while it lacks a direct connection to the superconscious mind or Aumakua, the unhihipili subconscious mind, which stores every memory recorded in the history of the universe and whose job it is to connect directly to the Aumakua, the superconscious, and the Aumakua who is like a neutral parent and who stores represents the composite intelligence of all one's ancestory in the history of evolution of life and beyond, above the Aumakua is the divine or I itself and plays the role of father. In order for their to be a harmonious balance in one's psyche and physicality, all three parts must communicate as a loving Ohana or family. The Aumakua cannot intervene on behalf of the Uhane who experiences the world through the senses unless the communication between the conscious and subconscious is very clean and loving. In order for this to happen, there must be forgiveness asked from the child for all the abuses offenses, errors, blocks that were ever created or accumulated from the begininning of time to the present, from the end of time to the present, from the beginning of time to the end of time and the end of time to the beginning of time, the Mother mind must be sincere in her asking for forgiveness from her child and be wiling to talk to and listen to the child. Once this relationship is purified and fine tuned, life becomes much more enjoyable. Then the child will be eager to help the mother in letting go and manifesting her requests to the father, as the child will be healthy, ready and willing to present the wishes of the mother to the father. The father then is able to intervene, as the Aumakua cannot intervene on our behalf unless the child requests it. Once it intervenes, the mana loa or high votage energy comes down, some might call it heavenly yang, and makes dynamic changes take place on behalf of the mother. Thanks for posting and I will see if I can get my hands on a copy!!!!!

Check this out too http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Family-Systems-Therapy-Guilford/dp/1572302720/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360083810&sr=1-1&keywords=internal+family+systems+therapy+by+richard+schwartz

 

Very close to what Seth is referring to.

I tried the Seth version last night. After that I had a dream in which (literally) people were arriving in a boat and by car to come see me. I 'knew' it was because I was doing this stuff. So I did another session this morning. But I found I felt exhausted and had to sleep after it.

So I wouldn't pick a day on which you don't have time to rest after.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Xienkula1

[Jetsun]

In Finland quite recently they developed a form of Therapy similar to the original Ho'oponopono called Open Dialogue Therapy where the whole family were involved with the healing, it got up to 85% reduction rates in serious cases like Psychosis and Schizophrenia

[Seth Ananda]

For those of you who are interested, and in the area, I am offering a free lecture on Ho'oponopono and the history of Huna,à

please check it out and would be wonderful to make your aquaintance

 

http://on.fb.me/UvgKQd

 

I love offering this for free, as that was the original way. I didn't study with Joe Vitale, I learned from Ihaleakala Hew Len and I found this practice to be extremely valuable, and the scope of the practice has evolved for me beyond what was learned in the original. I have shared this with others and the results have been tremendously encouraging and beyond placebo. If you have any questions PM me and I will be delighted to respond.

 

ALOHA

Interesting. Do you have any info on Hews history? The Traditional Hawaiian practice forums call him a fraud, and claim that there was never a psyche ward that he fixed, anywhere that can be found...

[Seth Ananda]

Xienkula1, thanks for this thread by the way. Do you have any recommendations of particularly good books, dvd's or sources for Huna teachings?

One book i really like is Charlotte Berney's Fundamentals of Hawaiian Mysticism.

 

I have always heard good things about Family Constellation Therapy, but never practiced it yet. I use aspects of Voice Dialogue, Gestalt's two chair practice, and Ho'oponopono regularly with my clients.

[Xienkula1]

Info on Hews history, only what is available to the public domain in terms of him learning with Mornah Simeona Nalamaku, Lau Lap'au, and his stories about her. So, he seemed real and authentic as a presenter, but I just met him very briefly so I cannot base any statement for or against. A friend had a consultation with him and he told her some things and said she should say I elevate myself and my house since she was having problems selling her house and the basement was literally rotting in mould. She did this daily and eventually the problem was easily fixed and the house easily sold. So that was interesting. Whether that story is true about the ward, I have no idea, and I wouldnt be surprised that native Hawaiians are calling him a fraud, since that is a rather tall claim, and Mornah's version incorporated concepts such as reincarnation and karma into it's practice and a host of different remedies she was inspired with. All I know is that some of it is quite applicable and useful, particularly the 12 step release process she created and some of the imageries as well. I would love to see the original form of the Ho'oponopono prior to christianisation where Hawaiians were forced to speak in terms of the bible and erase their cultural heritage or they could be fined or imprisoned for practising their native ways. No wonder they didnt want to talk to Max Freedom Long and wouldnt reveal anything to him and he had to get his info from a museum curator and heresay.

 

It's difficult to find good material some okay stuff, Hawaiian Relgion by Pukui but steer clear if you are allergic to the new age Huna the Ancient religion of Positive thinking by William R. Clover, Bowl of Light by Hank Wesselman, Children of the Rainbow by Melleville, Hawaiian Religion and Magic by Scott Cunningham, and Laura Yardley (student of Tad James) Heart of Huna, I'll see if I can find out some more critical references for you, but that video series by Alex Pua'a is good, he feels quite sincere. but then again how much has he gleaned from Long,because as a result of colonization a lot of ancestral knowledge was literally silenced.

 

P.S. I will have to check out Charlotte Berney's Fundamentals of Hawaiian Mysticism

Edited February 6, 2013 by Xienkula1

[Xienkula1]

I would like to thank everyone for participating in this forum. I had nothing to gain from posting about the benefits of Ho'oponopono monetarily or otherwise, I just wanted to share with you all!

[Xienkula1]

Y'know, I have recently been using a modified ho'o, including Friend's suggested word usage. What I have found beneficial is to recite a few repetitions, then ride and nourish the "energy vibration(s)" that the words elicit. One doesn't need to recite the phrases like a rosary endeavor. (Oh, but maybe y'all knew this already. )

 

Yes modify the Ho'o according to your needs. Repetition is key, but sincerity is also important. We do the nine HA breaths into the dan tian. We breathe from unlimited space of infinity into our center, the unihipili at the dan tian, for 7 counts, then suspend the breath in at the dan tian for 7 counts, then breathe out for 7 counts down to the tiniest 0 tinier than the smallest subatomic particle, absolute 0, emptiness, at our dan tian, then suspend the breath out for 7 counts, that's one round, we repeat this a minimum of nine times. We always breathe for ourselves and care for the Self, first, last and always, then we can breathe for another that needs to survive. Some do recite it like a mantra and it works for them, it gets them through a panic attack, breathing is another simple yet profound way to encourage purification and letting go. Really when we breathe, we are breathing not air, but mana, the ambient chi all around us that exists in abundance and we are charging our dan tian, will centre with it, so that it can be refreshed, revitalized and renewed with a new sense of purpose and resolve. One of my teachers used to say, 'God gave you the breath of life and so it's your job to keep breathing. The deeper you breathe the more you let go, and the more you let go, the deeper you breathe. The degree to which you breathe reflects your willingness to live in the flow of life and be nourished by the love that created you.'

 

The Ho'oponopono evening in Montreal went very well, many expressed interest in being there, but only a few of those showed up, however it seemed they were meant to be there. There were a few deadpan faces at points, and the easel magic eraser board nearly fell apart when attempting to illustrate how the three selves worked. This at first seemed embarrassing, but then we just let go, and realised this was reminding us not to be too intellectual and conceptual so as to loose the point entirely.

[Jetsun]

Thanks Xienkula1, I have been experimenting a bit more with the technique the last week, I don't suppose you have a website or a post somewhere with your instructions on how you do it or teach do you? I have read most of the public available books about it and even though it is meant to be simple I occasionally get confused, mostly to do with who I am saying sorry to and how that relates to another person involved and the one saying sorry.

[Xienkula1]

Here's a link for those that are interested for a modification of Mornah's 12 step process, but that does not violate the copyrights:

 

http://ulbobo.com/keola/hooponopono/ho'o.html hmm you have to copy and paste this link in your browser

Edited February 20, 2013 by Xienkula1

[Xienkula1]

Thanks Xienkula1, I have been experimenting a bit more with the technique the last week, I don't suppose you have a website or a post somewhere with your instructions on how you do it or teach do you? I have read most of the public available books about it and even though it is meant to be simple I occasionally get confused, mostly to do with who I am saying sorry to and how that relates to another person involved and the one saying sorry.

You are welcome Jetsun! I don't yet have my website up and running yet, but it is forthcoming. But I can definitely make a post with more complete instructions, I do share Ho'oponopono with others, I don't use the word teaching, because it implies we are not equals.

 

It is meant to be simple, but simplicity can be daunting at times

 

The way I understand it is you are almost never apologising to another person(unless you want to), this is an inside job. You are apologising to the subconscious mind or child in you, for having engaged and escalated a pattern of harm or disharmony, knowingly or unknowingly and perpetuated the harm. By saying sorry, you are helping to neutralise the resentment of the emotional mind towards the conscious mind for being ignorant and acting without awareness causing harm to itself and others. That is what taking responsibility means, taking responsibility for the state of your child self, saying no to abuse, apologising to it that it ever had to experience this harm in the first place which was the original mistake, an error, something that never should have happened, and never stopping until every last piece of the child is brought home healed to center and linked in our heart. That is how I understand I am sorry. It is this error, this mistake we are repenting, not the person, not the relationship, or anything outside ourselves. Even when we are dealing with a 'person' we never involve them, that's their business, we only cleanse our thoughts of them that our causing us pain. Divinity does the rest.

 

Note: It is not that we are the cause of the error or that we are to blame are bad, quite the contrary, it is the nature of this matrix to program us to believe otherwise, what we are doing is apologising to the code in the subconscious, in our own universe that results in these things. For more details, I would have to disclose some insights that came through a friend I met who has her own take on the universe. After months of working with her daily, she brought my understanding of Ho'Oponopono to a completely different level.

Edited February 20, 2013 by Xienkula1

[Jetsun]

I do understand apologising for continuing to repeat events toward yourself in your mind, for holding onto them, but I struggle to apologise for the original event. For example say someone hit me as a child, I can apologise for all the other baggage I may have added onto the event such as adding guilt or a story around it or continually repeating the event in my mind, but it becomes confusing if I try to apologise for the original event. Maybe if you have a firm belief in karma this is more possible.

 

Thanks for the further clarification though it is very helpful

 

@Rainbowvein, I will try experiment with what you suggest, the problem is I'm not sure what to apologise for towards things such as the sky if I see no injury or hurt involved, I can admire the glory and show respect to such things, but I will try the ho'op on it and see what happens.

[Xienkula1]

Apologising again, is the fact that we had to go through all this bloody pain and suffering and abuse....it is the deeper perspective of the heart and those outside the matrix who look in here and think wtf is going on in this magnetic prison divorce, where north is pitted against south, extreme affluence and poverty, beauty and ugliness, social injustice, discrimination, they are sorry we every had to come into this meat grinder and get caught in this whole pattern, so we are apologising to the wounds in ourselves, to the child who has had to endure this suffering. IT never should have happened.... karma is a mistake...you are not to blame but you are apologising that you or anyone had to experience this injustice, you are empathizing with the child...is this clearer?

[Birch]

"but I struggle to apologise for the original event"

 

You don't have to.

 

The way I understand it is that the apology is to the child-self that blamed itself for the original event. This is what children do (and they are also - too often- taught to not/ or not taught to stand up for themselves but I digress)

 

Bolded mine.

[Xienkula1]

"but I struggle to apologise for the original event"

 

You don't have to.

 

The way I understand it is that the apology is to the child-self that blamed itself for the original event. This is what children do (and they are also - too often- taught to not/ or not taught to stand up for themselves but I digress)

 

Bolded mine.

RIGHT On!!!! This is very clear, thank you Kate

Edited February 21, 2013 by Xienkula1