Origins of the Kabbalah and Other Things.

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England > Papal Rome > Greece > Egypt > Babylon > Sumeria

"Royal" bloodline / including US presidents trace similar lineage as above ^

Vatican/ Jesuits/ Freemasons/ Jewish Mysticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwj3gFNqc4k

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The Sumerian creation story and related.... still see no connections?

You have no idea about Babylon from Jewish / Biblical texts?

How about?

Talmud Bavli (Babylonian Talmud)

The Talmud Bavli consists of documents compiled over the period of Late Antiquity (3rd to 5th centuries).^[9] During this time the most important of the Jewish centres in Mesopotamia, later known as Iraq, were Nehardea, Nisibis, Mahoza (just to the south of what is now Baghdad), Pumbeditha (a town more famous in our times as Fallujah), and the Sura Academy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Talmud_Bavli_.28Babylonian_Talmud.29

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The Sumerian creation story and related.... still see no connections?

 

You have no idea about Babylon from Jewish / Biblical texts?

 

How about?

 

Talmud Bavli (Babylonian Talmud)

The Talmud Bavli consists of documents compiled over the period of Late Antiquity (3rd to 5th centuries).^[9] During this time the most important of the Jewish centres in Mesopotamia, later known as Iraq, were Nehardea, Nisibis, Mahoza (just to the south of what is now Baghdad), Pumbeditha (a town more famous in our times as Fallujah), and the Sura Academy.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Talmud_Bavli_.28Babylonian_Talmud.29

 

 

 

 

The Talmud is not part of the Kabbalah. All I see from you is cut and paste trolling. What is your point?

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Don't worry about it...

This information is only for the initiated

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Don't worry about it...

This information is only for the initiated

You are and I am not? What is your point? Have you read any of the Kabbalah texts or even the Talmud? According to you the Wikipedia is only for the initiated? That is ridiculous. Edited February 6, 2013 by ralis

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Kabbalah includes Zohar, Torah, Sepher Yetzirah, several other texts that are titled Sepher....... etc. There are many others. The Talmud is not!

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Mystical doctrines in the Talmudic era

In early rabbinic Judaism (the early centuries of the first millennium CE), the terms Ma'aseh Bereshit ("Works of Creation") and Ma'aseh Merkabah ("Works of the Divine Throne/Chariot") clearly indicate the Midrashic nature of these speculations; they are really based upon Genesis 1 and Book of Ezekiel 1:4–28; while the names Sitrei Torah (Hidden aspects of the Torah) (Talmud Hag. 13a) and Razei Torah (Torah secrets) (Ab. vi. 1) indicate their character as secret lore. An additional term also expanded Jewish esoteric knowledge, namely Chochmah Nistara (Hidden wisdom).

Talmudic doctrine forbade the public teaching of esoteric doctrines and warned of their dangers. In the Mishnah (Hagigah 2:1), rabbis were warned to teach the mystical creation doctrines only to one student at a time.^[20] To highlight the danger, in one Jewish aggadic ("legendary") anecdote, four prominent rabbis of the Mishnaic period (1st century CE) are said to have visited the Orchard (that is, Paradise, pardes, Hebrew: פרדס lit., orchard):

 

"Four men entered

pardes

—

Ben Azzai

,

Ben Zoma

,

Acher

(

Elisha ben Abuyah

),

[21]

and

Akiba

. Ben Azzai looked and died; Ben Zoma looked and went mad; Acher destroyed the plants; Akiba entered in peace and departed in peace."

[22]

In notable readings of this legend, only Rabbi Akiba was fit to handle the study of mystical doctrines. The Tosafot, medieval commentaries on the Talmud, say that the four sages "did not go up literally, but it appeared to them as if they went up".^[23] On the other hand, Rabbi Louis Ginzberg, writes in the Jewish Encyclopedia (1901–1906) that the journey to paradise "is to be taken literally and not allegorically".^[24] For further analysis, see The Four Who Entered Paradise.

Maimonides interprets pardes as physics and not mysticism.^[25][

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah#Mystical_doctrines_in_the_Talmudic_era

Rabbi:

The Torah is the Five books of Moses.

When G-d taught Moshe the Torah at Mount Sinai, He didn't just give Moshe a written text (that wouldn't take 40 days!). Rather, G-d explained what everything meant. These explanations are what we call "the Oral Torah" or "the Mishna."

The Jewish people preserved the Mishna as an unwritten teaching for about 1,400 years. After the destruction of the Second Temple, the leading Sage Rabbi Yehuda Hanassi realized a long exile was about to begin, and that if the Mishna wasn't written down it would become lost. He thus took the unprecedented step of writing it down.

Not long after this, the leading Sages in Babylon again saw a decline in scholarship, so they wrote a more comprehensive explanation of the Mishna, called the Talmud.

Kabbalah is also part of the Oral law. It is the traditional mystical understanding of the Torah. Kabbalah stresses the reasons and understanding of the commandments, and the cause of events described in the Torah. Kabbalah includes the understanding of the spiritual spheres in creation, and the rules and ways by which G-d administers the existence of the universe.

http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/233/Q3/

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/

Judaism + connections to Babylon is what is being shown...

As we are attempting to link back to Sumeria to find the origins of these texts...

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The Kabbalah and Freemasonry

Rooted in the ancient Egyptian Mysteries, three different versions of basically the same teachings can be identified by three different spellings: Kabbalah, Cabala and Qabalah...

The Kabbalah is an essentially Jewish mystical or esoteric school. Although the Christian Church Fathers of the first century were demonstratably Kabbalists, mystical or gnostic elements within the Church largely disappeared within the first three centuries, only to reappear as a Christian Cabala during the Renaissance. A third, often hidden, stream of mystical Western philosophy absorbed many Egyptian, Jewish and Christian mystical elements and termed them the Qabalah.¹

Christian writers such as Agrippa, in his De Occulta Philosophia Libri III (1533), or Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, and also the Roman Catholic Church, spell it "Cabala," the Latin spelling transferred over to English....

... "Buxtorf (Lexicon of the Talmud) defines the Kabbalah to be a secret science, which treats in a mystical and enigmatical manner of things divine, angelical, theological, celestial, and metaphysical; the subjects being enveloped in striking symbols and secret modes of teaching. Much use is made of it in the advanced degrees, and entire Rites have been constructed on its principles. Hence it demands a place in any general work on Freemasonry."²

 

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/kabbalah.html

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Practical Kabbalah has its ancient roots in the "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain, along with a highly eclectic admixture of material taken from Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and other non-Hebrew sources. The "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain are reflected in such works as The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, the Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon, and mediaeval grimoires such as the Armadel, Goetia/Lemegeton, etc. The primary text of the mystical Kabbalah that appears to occupy a central place of importance in the hermetic Kabbalah is the Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation). The two most prominent contemporary schools of Practical or Hermetic Kabbalah are the Golden Dawn and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). ³

http://freemasonry.b...s/kabbalah.html

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Enoch's "name signified in the Hebrew, INITIATE or INITIATOR. The legend of the columns, of granite and brass or bronze, erected by him, is probably symbolical. That of bronze, which survived the flood, is supposed to symbolize the mysteries, of which Masonry is the legitimate successor from the earliest times the custodian and depository of the great philosophical and religious truths, unknown to the world at large, and handed down from age to age by an unbroken current of tradition, embodied in symbols, emblems, and allegories."

- General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma

http://www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/apocryphical_book_of_enoch.htm

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Enoch/ Enmeduranki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En-men-dur-ana

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http://www.aakkl.helsinki.fi/melammu/database/gen_html/a0001188.php

Seers, Sybils and Sages in Hellenistic-Roman Judaism - page 342

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=PNpkPs0Q8doC&pg=PA342&lpg=PA342&dq=Enmeduranki+Enoch&source=bl&ots=Rs2V2-ZW9R&sig=uTVavk3BZePynJ5OvekuQ9liEgo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LPERUe-OHIyYiAept4HwBQ&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Enmeduranki%20Enoch&f=false

From Jewish Magic to Gnosticism - page 55

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=qv6rkmFNDcMC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=Enmeduranki+Enoch&source=bl&ots=LtWSf0A_KP&sig=pR8MCO42mKLTy4VNhRjk157Q6Pc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W_IRUba-GsX5iwKJgoHACw&ved=0CF8Q6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=Enmeduranki%20Enoch&f=false

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mesopotamia

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The paradise mentioned is referring to enlightenmnet?

The goal of kabballa is paradise?

 

am i understanding you correctly?

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I would say no... based on the Book of Enoch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

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