3rd eye issue, advice wanted...

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[mike 134]

I can send heat directly to that area. The effects are never good. At the minimum I'll have restlessness/ twitching/ insomnia, just like any heat to any part of the head. But if I persist I get a bad headache and "fishtank" effect, where it feels like I am looking at the world with bug eyes, and visual contrast is distorted. All in all it is very disturbing.

 

I'm not sure if fluoride has anything to do with it. It calcifies the pineal, but I have been drinking tap water all my life and it hasn't prevented me from having all sorts of strange but unintentional experiences. Chlorella supplements can bind heavy metals, but I am not certain if it actually "decalcifies" the pineal gland.

[Andrei]

You need grounding, either you need to do that meditation directly on ground (grass, dirt, concrete, not wood or asphalt) either you need to sit on a metallic plate with a wire connected to the ground, or a grounding device from earthing.com. I have the earthing starter kit.

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[Tibetan_Ice]

Hey guys, so I've been meditating almost every day for a couple of months now - Just sitting down, watching/slowing the breath, and experimenting with mudras. It's been going well up to this point - I've been finding it easier to slow down my mind remain calm, and this has carried through into my daily life as well. I'm making this thread because, at times, it's like I've been on the verge of catching a glimpse into spiritual dimensions and whatnot (while meditating)...I've felt very peaceful when this has been happening, but in the last few days I've started to feel quite foggy headed, and it feels like there's a dull pressure (for want of a better term) around my 3rd eye area. It almost feels as if energy is being fed to me via my 3rd eye, but it doesn't feel good, it feels draining.

 

I should mention that I've been making an effort over the last few weeks to cut back drastically on fluoride intake, for the very purpose of allowing my 3rd eye to awaken...So, it seems obvious that there's probably a connection between that and what's going on, but I was hoping some of you could give me some tips on how to properly manage what's going on here...

 

If you need more info to get a better idea of what's going on, let me know.

 

Thanks

Hi T.S.

You are doing fine. The pressure is a sign that the third eye is starting to activate.

 

You really should get a good book on the subject. I would recommend "Awakening the Third Eye" by Samuel Sagan..

It used to be a free pdf but now the pdf is not available and the book is a bit pricey.. YIKES! $150.00!!!

 

http://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Third-Eye-Samuel-Sagan/dp/0958670056

 

Here are some excerpts about pressure at the third eye from that book:

 

 

Remember that you are dealing with subtle perception. The

vibration should not be expected to feel like a dagger in your

forehead. Even if you can only perceive a faint little tingling or

pressure between the eyebrows, that will be enough to start the

process. All the other practices in the book will contribute to

enhancing and developing the perception.

 

...

Phase 4

Keep your hand in front of you or put it back by your side, as

you prefer.

Remain with your eyes closed, breathing with the throat friction,

aware between the eyebrows.

Start looking for a vibration between the eyebrows. It can take

different forms: either a clear vibration or a tingling, or even a

rather blurry pressure, a weight or a density between the

eyebrows.

Do not try hard. Remain vacant, let things happen.

 

Phase 5

As soon as the faintest feeling of vibration or tingling, pressure,

pulsation, density or weight is perceived, proceed as follows: start

connecting the throat friction with the feeling between the

eyebrows.

Connecting means being aware of both the friction and the

vibration (or density, or pressure...) between the eyebrows at the

same time. As you proceed, the link between the friction energy

and the third eye will be perceived more and more clearly.

The vibration will change as you combine it with the friction. It

will become more subtle, and yet more intense at the same time.

Chapter 3 – Awakening the Third Eye

 

If vibration or tingling is felt in some other part of the body, for

instance the whole of the forehead, the arms or even the whole

body, do not pay any attention to it. Just remain aware of the

vibration (or density, or pressure...) between the eyebrows.

Continue this phase for about 10 minutes, building up the

vibration between the eyebrows by connecting it with the throat

friction.

Remember, no imagination, no visualisation. Just flow with what

comes.

...

 

• A common experience, in the beginning, is to feel vibration (or

pressure, density...) not only in the area between the eyebrows,

but also in other parts of the forehead or the face. If this happens

don't pay attention to it, just focus on the vibration between the

eyebrows, connecting it with the throat friction. With practice,

everything will fall into place.

 

...

First opening, synopsis of the practice

Lie down and relax.

1) Throat friction + awareness in the larynx

2) Throat friction + awareness between the eyebrows

3) Same as 2) + palm of the hand in front of the third eye

4) Throat friction + looking for vibration, tingling,

pressure, density... between the eyebrows

5) Connecting the throat friction

with the vibration between the eyebrows

6) Motionlessness – connecting with the energy around you

 

...

Of course these indications are far too simplified to be completely

exact. But from an experiential point of view they provide helpful

references to allow you to find your way in the beginning.

1) Vibration, tingling, a feeling of pressure, weight, or density, all

have the same significance when felt between the eyebrows. They

indicate that something is being activated in the etheric part of

your third eye.

The etheric body is the layer of life force, equivalent to the prāṇa

of the Indian tradition and the qi of traditional Chinese medicine.

(The third eye is not a physical organ, it is predominantly etheric

and astral.)

 

...

 

The vibration (or any of its equivalents, such as tingling, pulsing,

pressure, density...) is the sensation by which the etheric is

perceived. Whenever you feel it somewhere in your body, it

indicates that the etheric layer is activated in this area. So the

perception of the vibration between the eyebrows is nothing other

than a perception of the etheric part of the third eye.

Since tingling, pressure, density or weight have more or less the

same significance, to simplify I shall refer to all of them by the

same word: vibration. Therefore, whenever you read ‘vibration’ in

this book, it refers to any or all of these different forms. For

instance, “Build up the vibration between the eyebrows,” means:

build up the modality that is most natural to you – vibration,

pressure, density, or their equivalent. Anyway after some time

the vibration will be perceived as all of these simultaneously.

There are different levels of vibration, just as there are different

levels of etheric energy, some more subtle than others. The

intensity of the vibration may vary from one day to the next.

Apart from quantitative variations, it is also the quality of the

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vibration that tends to vary naturally from one day to another.

Consequently it is important not to cling to any modality but to

flow with what comes each day. After some time the experience

will become more stable and the energy movements will be more

under your control.

2) The second type of experience that can take place between the

eyebrows is that of (non-physical) lights of various sorts, from a

vague haze, cloud, or glow, to colours and organised patterns. These

various manifestations can be regarded as equivalent, and indicate

that something is being activated in the astral part of your third

eye. To simplify, I will refer to all of them by the term ‘light’. So

each time you read ‘light’ in this book, it means all or any of

these: haze, colours, light patterns, shining dots or anything that

glows. Choose the one that comes most naturally to you and let it

be gradually refined into a more and more brilliant light.

 

...

 

Tips, phase 2 (vibration in the eye)

• The larynx of energy acts as an amplifier and a giver of shape.

By connecting the area between the eyebrows with the friction

coming from the throat, you work at building up the third eye.

In terms of experience, the intensification of the vibration in the

eye that takes place as soon as you connect it with the friction

indicates that the action of the larynx is taking place.

• As explained before, the vibration can also be felt as a tingling, a

pressure, a density... This phase works at building the etheric layer

of the third eye.

 

...

 

10.3 If a meditation experience becomes too intense...

Can meditation ever be too intense? That is very disputable! In

cases of high intensity it is always best to remain very quiet and

watch what is happening without reacting.

If for some reason you start feeling really uncomfortable and you

wish to discontinue the experience, all you have to do is open your

eyes and stop the practice. Just by opening the eyes, the pressure

of the experience will diminish instantaneously and you will be

brought back to your normal state of consciousness.

 

...

 

10.7 The pressure in the eye becomes uncomfortable

In some cases the pressure in the eye can become uncomfortable,

bordering on a headache.

What happens? A mixture of different factors can be envisaged.

• You are grasping.

It has never been suggested that you concentrate on the third eye,

but just that you keep an awareness of it. Yet it is very easy when

fighting to remain in the eye to start grasping the eye instead of

being just aware of it. An unnecessary tension is generated, that

can turn into a kind of headache.

So if this happens to you, the first thing to do is make sure that

you keep a gentle awareness, and do not force anything.

• The energy is trying to pull you upwards and you are

unconsciously resisting.

From time to time as you practise being in the eye, your

consciousness will be lifted up, from between the eyebrows to

above the head. This is very natural, and is due to the close

connection that exists between the third eye and the crown

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centre, at the top of the head. When this happens, just let

yourself be pulled upwards, and enjoy being above the head for a

while. Then come back into the eye once the experience is over.

In the beginning it often happens that you do not recognize the

‘pull’ and that you unconsciously resist, forcibly maintaining

yourself between the eyebrows. Your very determination to

remain firm in the eye, an aspiration which is right,

unconsciously makes you resist the natural flow of energy. The

result is very simple: a headache.

What is to be done? The answer is obvious: change your focus for a

while. Move your awareness from between the eyebrows to above

the head. The excess of energy accumulated in your head will be

released upwards.

Here is a technique to help you achieve this result.

10.8 Controlling headaches

Close your eyes and become aware about 10 to 15 centimetres above

the top of the head. There is a centre of energy, a chakra, in this

area. It is not the crown chakra, it is the one above it. One of my

teachers called it ‘the centre of the hissing snake’, because a

hissing sound can be heard when one gets in touch with this

chakra.

So tune into the area 3 to 5 inches above the head and spend 1

minute being aware and listening. Remember, no imagination! It is

far better to remain just aware than to make up a sound.

Then maintain your awareness at the same height, about 15

centimetres above the top of the head, and at the same time utter

a continuous hissing sound: ‘sssssssss...’ for a minute or two (a

physical sound, not just a mental one). Do not only repeat ‘sss’, but

make a proper hissing, as if you were a big snake. Put all of

yourself into the sound, while remaining aware above the head.

Then remain above the head and repeat the sound silently inside

yourself for 2 or 3 minutes.

At this stage, in many cases you will be pleasantly surprised to

realize that your headache has disappeared.

The more you master this technique, the more you will be able to

release undesirable energies upwards, above the head.

 

*Note: Please do not ask me for the text. I will not give it out or sell it..

 

TI

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[Mokona]

Brother, suggest a more balanced approach, as there are normally thought to be seven centers in the body, start balanced work on all of them.

 

The best way is to practice assuming the attitudes associated with the centers while breathing deeply into them.(best after a quick body shake or warm up)

 

Start MicroCosmic orbit.

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[Mokona]

Sure,

 

The first chakra is a centered, usually heavy confident feeling, with a vibrant *I want to LIVE* feeling when really active. You can assume this feeling via the shaking mentioned above or thorough leg exercise. Also, when working with this cetner you can self massage the legs and bottoms of the feet to better activate the nerve centers in the area to the feeling of energy, and it promotes flow and breaks of stagnation.

 

Even if you can only feel it alittle, create the feeling, relax and breath into the legs and first chakra. Also, you can't get into this center by thinking about it. You gotta get into a relaxed feel.

 

Either way, just look up the attitudes associated with each chakra center via the Google. Assume the positive aspects the best you can while in a relaxed state and breath into that center.

[hydrogen]

Hi T.S.

You are doing fine. The pressure is a sign that the third eye is starting to activate.

 

You really should get a good book on the subject. I would recommend "Awakening the Third Eye" by Samuel Sagan..

It used to be a free pdf but now the pdf is not available and the book is a bit pricey.. YIKES! $150.00!!!

 

http://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Third-Eye-Samuel-Sagan/dp/0958670056

 

Here are some excerpts about pressure at the third eye from that book:

 

 

 

*Note: Please do not ask me for the text. I will not give it out or sell it..

 

TI

 

I second that. You really need a book to open your third eye. Of course, a experienced teacher would be better.

 

I think it's a long process. It's not simple. You can't interpret what you see with your mind. If you do, your mind starts build stuff, then it's hard to get out of the maze. Don't worry about it yet. You should see a bright spot between your brows first if you progress gradually.

 

Smile. the uplifting of corner of eyes and mouth bring light into the "view". The light erase fear and darkness.

[Seeker of Wisdom]

I'm not sure if fluoride has anything to do with it... It calcifies the pineal...

I've looked into this extensively. Fluoride - in the doses you'll get from water and toothpaste - has NOTHING to do with the pineal gland, which calcifies naturally as we age, and would do so with no ill effects even if we lived in an environment completely free of fluoride.

 

 

I have looked at studies and more claiming to prove this anti-fluoride codswallop going around, and all of them either used doses of fluoride far outside the relevant range or completely misunderstood basic biology.

 

 

Unfortunately, pseudoscience is very rife on the internet. It spreads like wildfire because people want to be critical (which is good!) but don't understand enough science to separate the wheat from the chaff. Even basic things like the difference between 'OMG poisonous run!' and 'harmful in this dose'.

 

 

I hope I don't sound patronising or whatever. I just don't want you wasting money on expensive filters and worrying about a harmless intake of sodium fluoride because you heard some crap on the internet disguised as science and evidence.

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[Mokona]

I've looked into this extensively. Fluoride - in the doses you'll get from water and toothpaste - has NOTHING to do with the pineal gland, which calcifies naturally as we age, and would do so with no ill effects even if we lived in an environment completely free of fluoride.

 

 

I have looked at studies and more claiming to prove this anti-fluoride codswallop going around, and all of them either used doses of fluoride far outside the relevant range or completely misunderstood basic biology.

 

 

Unfortunately, pseudoscience is very rife on the internet. It spreads like wildfire because people want to be critical (which is good!) but don't understand enough science to separate the wheat from the chaff. Even basic things like the difference between 'OMG poisonous run!' and 'harmful in this dose'.

 

 

I hope I don't sound patronising or whatever. I just don't want you wasting money on expensive filters and worrying about a harmless intake of sodium fluoride because you heard some crap on the internet disguised as science and evidence.

Actually,

 

You could clear up some questions then. I was reading the studies on Flouridealert.org - is the whole website a sham?

[Seeker of Wisdom]

Actually,

 

You could clear up some questions then. I was reading the studies on Flouridealert.org - is the whole website a sham?

Of all the studies and articles I've looked at claiming to show fluoride is bad, one or more of these has applied:

 

+The study has never appeared in peer reviewed journals, so could just be made up (Google scholar is a good resource for spotting these). If you can only find it on anti-fluoride sites, ask why.

 

+The study looks at doses of fluoride above what we would get in normal life. Yes, excess fluoride is bad. Nobody is claiming otherwise. Does that mean fluoride is poison, period? No. A subtler example of this is that other countries may use higher doses, making their results inapplicable to me or you.

 

+The study is fully legit, but due to misunderstanding biology, the results are used to claim fluoride is bad when they don't actually show that. For example, one study showing that the pineal glands of gerbils calcify due to changing metabolic activity once appeared on an anti-fluoride site... the study itself never mentioned fluoride.

 

+Fear-mongering. E.g. the classic 'Nazis used fluoride in the camps!' The Nazis used crazy massive doses, this is an unscientific attempt to make people fear something by linking it to actual genocidal madness. References to fluorine are also popular, as though because an element is poison all its compounds must be too. Iron oxide is not magnetic or breatheable...

 

+Statistics with no reference to sources. I can claim that 9/10 lesbians are made straight by a photo of me - do you believe me?

 

I doubt it's deliberate misinformation... just well-meaning people spreading rumours and Chinese whispers.

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[joeblast]

Of all the studies and articles I've looked at claiming to show fluoride is bad, one or more of these has applied:

 

+The study has never appeared in peer reviewed journals, so could just be made up (Google scholar is a good resource for spotting these). If you can only find it on anti-fluoride sites, ask why.

 

+The study looks at doses of fluoride above what we would get in normal life. Yes, excess fluoride is bad. Nobody is claiming otherwise. Does that mean fluoride is poison, period? No. A subtler example of this is that other countries may use higher doses, making their results inapplicable to me or you.

 

+The study is fully legit, but due to misunderstanding biology, the results are used to claim fluoride is bad when they don't actually show that. For example, one study showing that the pineal glands of gerbils calcify due to changing metabolic activity once appeared on an anti-fluoride site... the study itself never mentioned fluoride.

 

+Fear-mongering. E.g. the classic 'Nazis used fluoride in the camps!' The Nazis used crazy massive doses, this is an unscientific attempt to make people fear something by linking it to actual genocidal madness. References to fluorine are also popular, as though because an element is poison all its compounds must be too. Iron oxide is not magnetic or breatheable...

 

+Statistics with no reference to sources. I can claim that 9/10 lesbians are made straight by a photo of me - do you believe me?

 

I doubt it's deliberate misinformation... just well-meaning people spreading rumours and Chinese whispers.

Flouride taste like sh*t. that's the biggest thing I like about my non flouride toothpaste...it doesnt have that...gah, I cant even describe the taste of it. some vile modified salt.

 

if the excuse of putting it in the water is for people's teeth, that's a crock, because it is the soaking that conveys the "anticavity" benefits.

[Andrei]

Just remember, Buddha and many others meditated under a tree or in a cave not in bed or on a couch

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

im gonna meditate IN a tree

[Horus]

Hey guys, so I've been meditating almost every day for a couple of months now - Just sitting down, watching/slowing the breath, and experimenting with mudras. It's been going well up to this point - I've been finding it easier to slow down my mind remain calm, and this has carried through into my daily life as well. I'm making this thread because, at times, it's like I've been on the verge of catching a glimpse into spiritual dimensions and whatnot (while meditating)...I've felt very peaceful when this has been happening, but in the last few days I've started to feel quite foggy headed, and it feels like there's a dull pressure (for want of a better term) around my 3rd eye area. It almost feels as if energy is being fed to me via my 3rd eye, but it doesn't feel good, it feels draining.

 

I should mention that I've been making an effort over the last few weeks to cut back drastically on fluoride intake, for the very purpose of allowing my 3rd eye to awaken...So, it seems obvious that there's probably a connection between that and what's going on, but I was hoping some of you could give me some tips on how to properly manage what's going on here...

 

If you need more info to get a better idea of what's going on, let me know.

 

Thanks

Howdy TS

 

Keep going and it will open eventually...but that path comes with head fog, dizziness, nausea, and makes you open to astral attack.

 

I'd recommend adding some more intense grounding. Walking or meditating on grass is one thing.

 

To foundation/ground I do Iron Shirt Qigong (Especially Embracing the Tree, and Rooting Practices (embracing the tree while someone tries to push you over - developing the rooting energy)), strong physical exercise, and consider doing more of the foundation practices to cleanse, integrate and charge the whole system.

 

The fog and other undesirables are because you are making yourself top heavy...(ie open and charge the lower centres and the channels first) so the charge can fill from the bottom up - not get caught and pocketed here or there.

 

When I integrated the above - I no longer had the fog etc.

[TAXICAT]

It's probably your sinuses.

[SonOfTheGods]

"Awakening the Third Eye" by Samuel Sagan..

It used to be a free pdf but now the pdf is not available and the book is a bit pricey.. YIKES! $150.00!!!

 

https://archive.org/download/AwakiningTheThirdEye/AwakeningTheThirdEye.pdf

 

 

there you go^

 

Also be aware there are 3 third eyes

 

The true one is - hairline at the scalp area.

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[HoldorFold]

Howdy TS

 

Keep going and it will open eventually...but that path comes with head fog, dizziness, nausea, and makes you open to astral attack.

 

I'd recommend adding some more intense grounding. Walking or meditating on grass is one thing.

 

To foundation/ground I do Iron Shirt Qigong (Especially Embracing the Tree, and Rooting Practices (embracing the tree while someone tries to push you over - developing the rooting energy)), strong physical exercise, and consider doing more of the foundation practices to cleanse, integrate and charge the whole system.

 

The fog and other undesirables are because you are making yourself top heavy...(ie open and charge the lower centres and the channels first) so the charge can fill from the bottom up - not get caught and pocketed here or there.

 

When I integrated the above - I no longer had the fog etc.

 

I still get heaviness, pulsating and fog in my brow as well due to working on my pineal/3rd-eye many years ago. I find the effects come on when I'm not being very physical and sitting around at a computer or reading a book for a long time.

 

I'm going to give those techniques you mentioned a try.

[Horus]

 

I still get heaviness, pulsating and fog in my brow as well due to working on my pineal/3rd-eye many years ago. I find the effects come on when I'm not being very physical and sitting around at a computer or reading a book for a long time.

 

I'm going to give those techniques you mentioned a try.

ok, I'd also take a look at mantak chias tantien qigong - and try taking some colloidal silver (works a treat for emf sensitivity).

[Unseen_Abilities]

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