Qi machine

[VCraigP]

You can do all the same focussing and sealing while using the machine, and for me it generates similar levels of chi as an extensive shaking practice does. I have no idea what Winn teaches pertaining to shaking but I'll take your word for it that it's limited. BTW, there are other practices which generate more chi than shaking =)

 

Word games, your body generates the chi with movement and the machine is what makes you move, so the machine is doing the work and you are getting the benefit. That's called high efficiency, and high efficiency is particularly important in this chi cultivation scheme of things. It generates energy in the same way that shaking does. Do you or anyone else here know how shaking generates energy?

 

Starjumper

Not desiring to be playing word games regarding chi generation. I think it is an important distinction to make and I appreciate your precision in exploring my comments. OK, we can agree that physical movement, kinetic energy is definitely being added to the system with these shaking machines. There are other "Chi" machines out there which work with electromagetic energy and are not shaking machines. Electro stim acupuncture also is using external energy. OK, we both agree there is a benefit of some kind to the shaking chi machines. Is this benefit actually "adding" CHI to the system? I don't think so. And you pose the question "how does shaking generate energy or chi. In fact I am not sure that it does either. In the particular specific practice I was referring to I think perhaps what is really happening is that physical and energetic systems in the physical and energy body are being released and this is allowing things to FLOW more smoothly this can be said of the shaking machine as well. Also there is a Shen (spirit) layer which is being contacted as part of the practice. Making a connection and opening up allows the possibility of connecting with Heaven and Earth as well as releasing old stuck energy. Perhaps there is in fact an adding of energy to the system thereby.

 

Your comment about efficiency is well taken, but a bit mechanical. Allow me to elaborate. I appreciate that you can combine the chi machine with chikung or other internal art practice to enhance the benefit. Physically it would be hard to argue that this is not efficient. Therefore I pose another question for you from a chikung perspective. Is it most efficient to connect with your chi and shen layers while lying down and being shaken by a machine? Is your chi cultivation most efficient on all layers using this method?

 

The energy dynamic of being horizontal is quite different from that of standing on your feet.

 

Also I agree that there are a myriad of other practices to look at for many purposes. I merely took the practice of shaking as an example because of the similarity to the effects of using the chi machine. I have experience with both.

 

IN my practice the shaking is an important warm up and the drumming/dancing energy is said to awaken and connect one to the spirit. This also is my experience, within the limitations of my ability to perceive such a connection.

 

I like your incisive approach. Do you have a lot of metal in your chart

 

Craig

[mYTHmAKER]

Um... there's jing foods that aren't of animal origin

 

Which ones are you referring to.

Thanks

[thaddeus]

..a Mao-shan sorceress will keep a vegetarian diet for a week before writing a talisman..

Taomeow, you've been making some really interesting contributions..looking forward to hearing more!

T

 

Which ones are you referring to.

Thanks

Hey Myth, we've talked about shilajit before...my qigong teacher made up a batch of some 60 herbs to soak in sake as a jing tonic..but I have to say I didn't feel much from it. Have you ever had a jamaican drink called 'sea moss'..i really think there is something to that combination of ingredients..

T

[mYTHmAKER]

Hey Myth, we've talked about shilajit before...my qigong teacher made up a batch of some 60 herbs to soak in sake as a jing tonic..but I have to say I didn't feel much from it. Have you ever had a jamaican drink called 'sea moss'..i really think there is something to that combination of ingredients..

T

 

Never heard of it - here's a google

# 1

Grace Jamaican Style Irish Moss Sea Moss Drink, 9.6 fl. oz.

This product is in the form of a Liquid and is packaged in a Can. See all 10 products made by Grace.

Ingredients: Water, Cane Sugar, Dried Glucose Syrup, Thickener: Modified Food Starch, Natural Flavoring: Seaweed Extract, Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Salt, Dried Whey, Sodium Caseinate, Artificial Flavoring, Nutmeg, Acidity Regulator, Emulsifier, Colors, Turmeric. Vanilla Flavor.

 

This has sugar + glucose will give a feeling of energy. Too many unknowns colorings and flavorings,

Acidity regulator is a strange one. Hydrogenated vegetable oil is a no no for me.

 

#2

Much simplier

 

Jamaican Sea Moss Drink (*1) - traditional Jamaican Drink. Makes 1 litre.

Need : 15g carrageen

1.3 litre

1 cinnamon stick

2 tsp linseed (optional)

1 x 400g can of condensed milk

few drops vanilla essence

nutmeg

 

How about wheat grass juice for jing. It's make up is pretty close to human blood

Both Chlorophyll and Hemoglobin share a similar atom structure to create the there respective molecules. The only actual difference in the two molecules is that of the metallic atom element. In human blood or hemoglobin consists of iron, while in Chlorophyll the metallic atom is magnesium.

Since Chlorophyll and Hemoglobin are so much alike in atom structure it allows it to be absorbed quickly and begin to rebuild the blood stream.

[thaddeus]

Never heard of it - here's a google

# 1

This has sugar + glucose will give a feeling of energy. Too many unknowns colorings and flavorings,

Acidity regulator is a strange one. Hydrogenated vegetable oil is a no no for me.

Agreed, that one is garbage.

 

#2

Much simplier

 

Jamaican Sea Moss Drink (*1) - traditional Jamaican Drink. Makes 1 litre.

Need : 15g carrageen

1.3 litre

1 cinnamon stick

2 tsp linseed (optional)

1 x 400g can of condensed milk

few drops vanilla essence

nutmeg

This is more like it. The Linseed is *not* optional..in fact I think that's part of the specialness of the drink. You don't need the condensed milk..too much fat and calories..skim/soy/peanut milk is a fine substitute.

If you drink this stuff, watch out in the bedroom..not sure exactly why it works, but it's called natural viagra by the jamaicans..especially if you boil some cashew or raw peanut in there.

How about wheat grass juice for jing.

I haven't tried it consistently. I'm thinking about experimenting with Raw Honey to see if there is any effect. I did an experiment yesterday that seemed positive..

T

[coyote]

The chi machine is great. It's purpose is actually to move the lymph system without using muscle energy and loosen some joints and the spine without impact It is great for lower back pain. The only reason i don't use it now is that it throws-out my cranial adjustments. Before i was being adjusted, by cranial bones were jammed and the Chi Machine didn't matter matter. The EMF radiation from the machine don't seem to bother me, although some machines do. I have the Sun Ancona, but there are new, cheaper machines with speed adjustments.

 

Coyote

[Vajra Fist]

Have binged the Netflix series 'Better Call Saul', and he uses the chi machine throughout.

 

I'm not sure about whether it generates 'chi', but my goodness it just looks delicious for the spine.

 

Anyone else have one?

 

[Lairg]

Some aliens reportedly have the skills/technology to knock out or kill instantly everyone in their vicinity. 

 

These days there is a lot of "soft disclosure" in TV and movies.  Getting us ready.

[Nungali]

We need to get ready ...   to  be killed instantly  ?

 

Also I am wondering what an alien's  'vicinity' is ?   18 metres around the saucer .... or a quadrant of galaxy around their home planet .

[Lairg]

I occasionally see such events while meditating.  Most that I have seen were in visiting craft - distances less than 50 yards.

 

I suspect that the process requires the targets to be within an easy extension of the light body

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Lairg