Very meaningful fact about DXM vs. placebo

[Owledge]

DXM is a substance in cough medicine that is, in higher concentrations, also used as a dissociative drug.

Wikipedia states something that has profound implications:

 

"A 2004 study showed that dextromethorphan was no more effective for children than a placebo.[8] Studies conducted by the American Academy of Pediatrics show that dextromethorphan is not superior to a placebo in providing nocturnal symptom relief for children with cough and sleep difficulty due to upper respiratory infections.[9]"

 

So all of the anti-cough effect is due to placebo ... in children only?!

But how can that be? (rhetorical question)

How can a substance effectively have no effect vs. belief in children, while in adults, the chemical substance does more than mere belief would?

 

If you examine this logically, you can come to some very profound spiritual conclusions.

No surprise to me that placebo effect is stronger in children. The have faith, they believe easily, while adults are already filled with scepticism, and that can block the self-healing power of belief.

 

There can be various theories now about why DXM has an effect in adults. Does the body notice the presence of a foreign substance DXM and report it to the rational brain, which then gives green light to the creative mind or faith mechanism?

I think the rational mind is like a guardian, requiring additional measures to be convinced, but that what ultimately gets anything done is based on belief, based on the divine creative force.

 

This would also imply that systems like the whole medical science are nothing but belief systems. They work because sceptic people can convince themselves that it's not 'just belief', and 'belief' being what they personally believe to be not true. It is a self-imposed additional complication on the path of divine manifestation of reality.

 

Have you ever witnesses someone handwaving a cure as "Oh, forget it, it's just placebo effect!"? The logical fallacy and blindness of such a person is amusing, because if a placebo cures, then there is no reason to discredit it.

 

It is also amusing to watch things like the placebo effect entering medical science doctrine. One would think that any doctor must be dumbfounded by the very idea of placebo effect, but it is now generally accepted. They did studies, they have faith in the truth of the outcomes, and that's where they stop. They don't dare to philosophize about the implications, because it then gets too scary for the rational mind.

This is so much like the saying that truth is first called absurd, then fought, then accepted as self-evident.

Thus it is sad/hilarious that the same doctors that now acept placebo effect as a real phenomenon in their profession might still ridicule the idea of "healing through belief", although that's pretty much the same that they have strong faith in under the term "placebo effect". They become faithful servants of metaphysics, but don't want it to be called by its real name.

This is one example of how humankind evolves on the outside, reflected by society, while on the inside nothing changes.

[Flolfolil]

i am tripping on pure dxm as i type this, and i can assure you - it definitely does something

 

lol

[GreytoWhite]

Yep, watched a kid get rolled off campus on a stretcher in high school he didn't die but was pretty close. He didn't live much longer than his 18th birthday, his cousin killed him in a DUI accident.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Matthew XXI 21:

"If you shal haue faith, and stagger not, ... and if you shal say to this mountaine, Take vp and throw thy self into the sea, it shal be done."

Sweet topic.

Application.... everything?