skydog Posted February 19, 2013 I would say I am quite creative/have the flow. I am capable of self expression. I would like to paint random psychadelic stuff sometimes, however I lack skills, and developing skills seems so boring for some things. Expressing onself for a certain reason seems so against expressing oneself, like trying to convey a particular meaning or something. I took a drum class the other day and a didgeridoo class. Anyhoo it would be nice to channel my creative energy maybe towards something remotely productive. Just wondering how do you express yourself? Do you abandon all ideas of useful creativity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillingToListen Posted February 19, 2013 I used to write, people have told me I was talented. I also used to draw and make music. During times where I feel particularly down I'll still write a poem or something. My problem is that prior to me embarking on this spiritual path, most of my writings/art/music came from suffering. Now that I don't have so much sadness/grief, I feel as though I can't express myself truly. The art that came from suffering, my joy(of old), has lost it's appeal. I've even tried to create problems for myself, to no avail. I miss the art that came from the sadness. I wrote a lot about society and curing its ills for a time, but only so many people want to hear that kind of thing, let alone act on it. To me music is the best form of expression at the moment, because it is beyond words and as long as your hearing is good you can play something or sing. You said you don't want to really spend time on developing skills, some say most great art comes from a type of suffering. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted February 19, 2013 If you think you possess a degree or two of creative impulse, and would like to learn a useful skill with fair benefits on more than a few levels, you ought to consider taking up cooking classes and see if its your cup of tea. Skilled chefs are always in demand, and even average chefs, willing to work hard (lots of overtime in this profession) can avail of a good income. I have chef friends who work on ships, and they earn between 4 to 7 thousand euros per month. (and thats at junior sous chef level). Chef de partie grades can earn between 3 to 5k, and commis chefs start at around 2k. Thats way more than land-based work anytime. Plus, think of the perks... free travel, free medical, free food and lodging, and hardly have time to spend your dosh. With a bit of patience and perseverance, 3 years is all it takes to become financially sound. You can always bring your didgeridoo along to entertain your new-found mates! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 I used to write, people have told me I was talented. I also used to draw and make music. During times where I feel particularly down I'll still write a poem or something. My problem is that prior to me embarking on this spiritual path, most of my writings/art/music came from suffering. Now that I don't have so much sadness/grief, I feel as though I can't express myself truly. The art that came from suffering, my joy(of old), has lost it's appeal. I've even tried to create problems for myself, to no avail. I miss the art that came from the sadness. I wrote a lot about society and curing its ills for a time, but only so many people want to hear that kind of thing, let alone act on it. To me music is the best form of expression at the moment, because it is beyond words and as long as your hearing is good you can play something or sing. You said you don't want to really spend time on developing skills, some say most great art comes from a type of suffering. Thats great man I think it is very therapeutic to write spontaneous poetry/songs like it calm the heart (the real emotional brain) I see yes music has that neutrality Yeh like structure and technique seems very boring to me, I dont know if theres ways of doing things that do not rely so much on stuff like that. Maybe inventing or design Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 If you think you possess a degree or two of creative impulse, and would like to learn a useful skill with fair benefits on more than a few levels, you ought to consider taking up cooking classes and see if its your cup of tea. Skilled chefs are always in demand, and even average chefs, willing to work hard (lots of overtime in this profession) can avail of a good income. I have chef friends who work on ships, and they earn between 4 to 7 thousand euros per month. (and thats at junior sous chef level). Chef de partie grades can earn between 3 to 5k, and commis chefs start at around 2k. Thats way more than land-based work anytime. Plus, think of the perks... free travel, free medical, free food and lodging, and hardly have time to spend your dosh. With a bit of patience and perseverance, 3 years is all it takes to become financially sound. You can always bring your didgeridoo along to entertain your new-found mates! Interesting... Thanks I met a guy who was very clairyovayant who said he enjoyed creative cooking. I do cook for myself, but I am really unsure how creative cooking can be, anyhoo i will research this...cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted February 19, 2013 In the freest things lie the most profound, most structured patterns, seemingly invisible to the less free. migrating birds never get lost. physical bodies operate without the need for conscious effort. etc.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat Pillar Posted February 19, 2013 When I write music, it's usually a result of hours of just messing around on the guitar until something "clicks." I find a riff or a melody I really dig, and it sets the emotional-energetic tone of the flow. From there, I focus on the emotion-energy and try to let it grow and express itself...it's very much about feeling into it. Sometimes conscious effort is required to bridge two disparate themes, or to provide a nudge to the flow, but a lot of it "just writes itself." I don't know much music theory, but I know what sounds and feels right for a particular piece. Like I've heard other artists state, it's not so much expressing my self creatively...rather it's trying to manifest a creative expression that already exists. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 If you think you possess a degree or two of creative impulse, and would like to learn a useful skill with fair benefits on more than a few levels, you ought to consider taking up cooking classes and see if its your cup of tea. Skilled chefs are always in demand, and even average chefs, willing to work hard (lots of overtime in this profession) can avail of a good income. I have chef friends who work on ships, and they earn between 4 to 7 thousand euros per month. (and thats at junior sous chef level). Chef de partie grades can earn between 3 to 5k, and commis chefs start at around 2k. Thats way more than land-based work anytime. Plus, think of the perks... free travel, free medical, free food and lodging, and hardly have time to spend your dosh. With a bit of patience and perseverance, 3 years is all it takes to become financially sound. You can always bring your didgeridoo along to entertain your new-found mates! I like this idea actually maybe specialising in healthy/vegetarian/tasty cooking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted February 19, 2013 Through my work. What I do, in general, can't always been seen or touched. It's tough IMO/IME when whatever you're creating isn't immediately or always tangible. Creativity is not necessarily material, is what I'm getting at. Ruiz and some others suggest one's life itself is a creative action. Other people suggest we don't really create much by ourselves. I say that both are possibly necessary for me to feel alright being. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 Through my work. What I do, in general, can't always been seen or touched. It's tough IMO/IME when whatever you're creating isn't immediately or always tangible. Creativity is not necessarily material, is what I'm getting at. Ruiz and some others suggest one's life itself is a creative action. Other people suggest we don't really create much by ourselves. I say that both are possibly necessary for me to feel alright being. whats your work k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted February 19, 2013 A lot of research and then sharing it with people. It's a pretty strange job IMO/IME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted February 19, 2013 How about decorating your living space? Can be an artistic endeavor in itself and include elements that can give you ongoing inspiration. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted February 19, 2013 How about decorating your living space? Can be an artistic endeavor in itself and include elements that can give you ongoing inspiration. I LOVE that stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 Also clothes I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) How about decorating your living space? Can be an artistic endeavor in itself and include elements that can give you ongoing inspiration. yep i like that thanks for the inspiration zanshin Edited February 19, 2013 by sinansencer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted February 19, 2013 some of my art is here http://ringlesscircus.tumblr.com i like montage photography 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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adept Posted February 19, 2013 Poetry. Sporadic ramblings on life and the natural world. I'm very private though and rarely show anyone (even my family). My Japanese style garden is a work constantly in progress but I take great satisfaction in it whatever the season. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oildrops Posted February 20, 2013 some of my art is here http://ringlesscircus.tumblr.com i like montage photography I'm not seeing the photography, is there another link? How does one not express oneself creatively? Sometimes the most beautiful works of art are those that leave no impression on the world- humming a song while walking through the woods, or even just imagining a surreal landscape. Making a connection with a stranger is a creative process. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) http://www.moddb.com/members/hotnirvanajudotrend/addons+http://www.moddb.com/members/hotnirvanajudotrend/images Edited February 20, 2013 by Northern Avid Judo Ant 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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skydog Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Yes that is an interesting take thanks T.S, I agree with her ideas Edited February 22, 2013 by sinansencer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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