Where do you think the Hologram theory fits in eastern religion?

[bipaw]

In 1982 physicist Alain Aspect and his research team did some kind of experiment and found out that electrons and some other subatomic particles can instantly communicate with other electrons regardless of the distance between them be it a mile or billions of miles away. This goes against the theory that nothing can ever travel faster than the speed of light. They also found out that each particle seems to know what each other particle is doing.

 

Some theories to make sense of these findings are that the physical world is merely an illusion being casted out by the true reality. Like a hologram that is projected from a 2D reality to create a 3D illusion.

 

Googling this would shed greater light on this.

 

I'm just wondering if it furthers anybodies beliefs about the ultimate reality which one cannot see until he/she is enlightened and fulfills karmic duties.

 

It is a bit ironic that ancient civilization said that this is the mere physical world alluding and they also said that there is beyond then I feel like many strayed from that view and now science might be revealing it again.

 

What do you guys/gals think?

[voidisyinyang]

Qigong master chunyi LIn read Michael Talbot's book The Holographic Universe and Chunyi Lin stated the book is an accurate description of what reality is like for qigong masters.

 

Quantum physics is the opposite extreme of Taoism. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho is good on this -- there's a lot of info to go into -- a lot of paradoxes - but basically there is something called time-frequency uncertainty which is the limit of science.

 

So actually physicist Louis de Broglie was the first to realize a logical error in Einstein's relativity -- because as light goes faster in speed (or frequency) it actually slows down in time. But slowing down in time means the amplitude wavelength is longer while the Law of Pythagoras states that frequency is inverse to wavelength and the light is going faster or smaller in frequency.

 

Anyway so de Broglie's model is called the Law of Phase Harmony and became the basis for David Bohm's later holographic model featured in Talbot's book.

 

The Law of Phase Harmony posits two time clocks for an inner and outer reality - and so when the frequency is zero on one clock then the phase as wavelength is infinite on the other clock.

 

The trick is that phase is not the same as amplitude. In quantum physics phase is squared to produced amplitude as a classical measurement.

 

So there is something called "squeezed light" based on time-frequency uncertainty -- before the amplitude is squared.

 

This is the basis for non-local quantum biology communication that is now being detected and modeled experimentally to explain plant photosynthesis and bird migration and human sense of smell.

 

So in this model it is indeed possible for a signal to go faster than light - it relies on the Quantum Zeno Effect - what this means if that the frequency never collapses into an amplitude wavelength - it stays in that uncertainty realm as formless information that is non-local. This enables the information to find the most efficient classical or 3D route for energy transformation -- converting photons into electrons.

 

So this effect can not be reproduced by technology -- there has been experimental validation of the Quantum Zeno Effect - but in terms of a living system it only has evolved internally -- from within.

 

So real consciousness is beyond geometry - it is formless awareness -- not contained in any dimension nor even sense perception nor in spacetime.

 

Quantum physics has proven that signals can exist outside of spacetime.

 

One model argues that inertia is simply the quantum zero point energy as the inverse of gravity.

 

But there can be no unified field theory because of the non-commutative logic of quantum physics at the foundation of science.

 

This is another way of stating the time-frequency uncertainty principle.

 

I have modeled this back to Taoism and also to non-western music theory.

 

http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/11/non-commutative-resonance-quantum.html

 

It gets into abstract logic -- so that's why most people don't even engage with this type of information - but it's the type of paradoxes that were being discussed regarding the Holographic Model.

 

http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/03/amazing-holographic-bushmen-healing-on.html

 

So this other blogpost quotes Andrew Zimmern who experienced this holographic model of reality upfront from a Bushmen healing master - the original source for qigong healing.

 

http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/10/quantum-biology-proving-soul-too-bad.html

 

This proves I was posting on this topic back before it became accepted by mainstream science. haha.

 

http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/04/mother-nature-is-puppet-master.html

[gendao]

Ancient news in Chinese culture. All of its spirituality already assumes the holographic nature of phenomena.

 

Feng shui is precisely the folk art of how characteristics repeat on every level like a hologram due to their underlying unity. This is also seen in TCM & reflexology, a vast map of correlations between numerous fractal expressions.

And in neidan, the body is also viewed as a microcosm of the macrocosmic universe.

Either way, by altering your programs within, you alter the entire hologram you project (your life experience).

 

 

So basically, YES...this is akin to Columbus "discovering" a continent that was already populated since at least the Ice Age..

Edited March 6, 2013 by vortex

[taijistudent]

Aspects experiments which seem to confirm the non-local actions at a distance (so-called instantaneous faster that light effects) have since been confirmed many times for large particles and distances. So there is something happening that confounds science.

 

David Bohm, who was one of the inspirations for Bell who is the author of Bell's Theorem and the inspiration for Aspect, has posited that there is an Implicate Order where information is enfolded and unfolded in a holographic like manner. It is a fascinating model which attempts to explain the nature of Nature and the nature of life.

 

As a companion philosophy, there is Henri's Bergson's metaphysics, which may have influenced Bohm, where he suggests that external time (the time that we use to measure for analytical purposes) is different from the time that we experience as a unfolding within us all (our internal time). He calls this time Duration and together with Memory and the Elan Vital (the vital impetus or intelligence), he constructs a metaphysical model that attempts to explain the problems with the Relativity view of time (there really isn't any time in Quantum Physics).

 

All of these authors are fascinating reading. Whether one needs any type of enlightenment to understand this, depends upon what one seeks and what one observes. Understanding nature and life is like a jig-saw puzzle which can be solved in many ways.

[Dainin]

Indra's Net

 

(From wikipedia entry)

 

For the Huayan school, Indra's net symbolizes a universe where infinitely repeated mutual relations exist among all members of the universe.^[5]

 

This idea is communicated in the image of the interconnectedness of the universe as seen in the net of the Vedic god Indra, whose net hangs over his palace on Mount Meru, the axis mundi of Vedic cosmology and Vedic mythology. Indra's net has a multifaceted jewel at each vertex, and each jewel is reflected in all of the other jewels.^[6]

 

Francis Harold Cook describes the metaphor of Indra's net from the perspective of the Huayan school in the book Hua-Yen Buddhism: The Jewel Net of Indra:

 

Far away in the heavenly abode of the great god Indra, there is a wonderful net which has been hung by some cunning artificer in such a manner that it stretches out infinitely in all directions. In accordance with the extravagant tastes of deities, the artificer has hung a single glittering jewel in each "eye" of the net, and since the net itself is infinite in dimension, the jewels are infinite in number. There hang the jewels, glittering "like" stars in the first magnitude, a wonderful sight to behold.

If we now arbitrarily select one of these jewels for inspection and look closely at it, we will discover that in its polished surface there are reflected

all

the other jewels in the net, infinite in number. Not only that, but each of the jewels reflected in this one jewel is also reflecting all the other jewels, so that there is an infinite reflecting process occurring.

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Edited March 6, 2013 by Dainin

[Astral Monk]

Dependent origination.

 

The German rationalist philosopher G.W. Leibniz had a good metaphysics that ties in with holographic theory. In his model there is no physical universe. There are only points of consciousness called 'monads' whose only function is to project perceptions. They do not interact physically like atoms and do not receive or emit anything outside themselves. Everything is contained within them. As such, they do not come into existence or cease to exist independently in time. Rather, they are all created or destroyed together in on single event.

 

For Leibniz this was God's creation, and God was the guiding force that coordinated all monads so that their internal perceptions were harmonious (one might say, so that they all resonated on the same plane of existence). Monads have no mass, no shape, no form, no velocity. They project spacetime in their perception but do not exist within spacetime. The ideal holographic medium.

 

Since they all come into existence at once and cease to exist at once, every part of them is interconnected--a perfect fabric of perceptions.

 

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