U.S. genocide in Iraq

[voidisyinyang]

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/294554.html

http://usgenocide.org/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-2012-killed-3-3-million-including-750000-children/5314461

US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal

 

I told my mom that Iraq was genocide. She said no it wasn't. I said do you know how many people the sanctions killed? She said no.

In 1998 I hung a banner over the bridge at the University on Washington Ave -- stop genocide in Iraq and the director of the Genocide Center walked past me and he complained to me that it was not genocide.

Hey sometimes you gotta use hyperbole to wake people up and get their attention and then there can be a decent debate. I still say it was genocide.

Anyway let's hope Pilger prevents Iran - his Iraq documentary on the sanctions could have maybe stopped the 2nd genocidal attack if only it had got distributed.

When we watched it at that anarchist art center on Lake and Cedar -- the place mysteriously burned down a couple weeks later -- but there was an Iraqi woman with her children there. They were crying and pleading for help and they said their father had been interrogated by either the FBI or something higher up while we watched the film and he was working at a gas station. I told Marie Braun to make copies of the documentary so we could distribute it for free since only a few people had attended that event -- she did not want to violate John Pilger's copyright! I mean seriously - I was shocked - I'm sure Pilger would have want the message to get out regardless of copyright. Anyway she said she had to return it soon to the Quakers or whatever east coast outlet she had rented it from via the mail.

Yeah.... my instructor said my research paper predicting a 2nd invasion of Iraq - in 1998 -- was "too aggressive." that was his critique for a lower grade. When the invasion happened I saw him in the library and so asked what he thought of my paper now - he said - "that's graduate school."

What a pathetic joke. haha.

People really are mind controlled.

Edited March 22, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus

[voidisyinyang]

Wow I just got retweeted by the Iraqi Government!

 

https://twitter.com/spiraldance33

[ralis]

Thanks for posting this. The use of depleted uranium and white phosphorous ordinance was criminal. Besides the estimated civilian causalities of up to 1 million, there are anywhere from 3-4 million refugees. That was never reported!

[voidisyinyang]

Thanks for posting this. The use of depleted uranium and white phosphorous ordinance was criminal. Besides the estimated civilian causalities of up to 1 million, there are anywhere from 3-4 million refugees. That was never reported!

 

I got arrested protesting against Alliantech the largest depleted uranium corporation that was headquartered in Minnesota.

 

I told the judge that the corporation was against the UN declaration of human rights and the Geneva Convention and how my dad had been assistant attorney general of Minnesota and how the corporation should have its charter revoked.

 

The judge then left the room after my testimony and he came back and he dropped all our fines. haha. The protest leader said I should have been a lawyer.

 

So then the corporation moved to another city in Minnesota with the quid pro quo that the city pass a law making jury trials for trespassing not allowed.

 

That was challenged as unconstitutional and so then the corporation moved to another city in Minnesota - the SAME city that Chunyi Lin has his Spring Forest Qigong Center - Eden Prairie Minnesota. So I did a blog post about how the qigong master was the exact opposite of Alliantech, also the largest land mine producer. the protests kept happening and then Alliantech moved their headquarters out by D.C.

 

Anyway they still have their factories here in Minnesota and there is depleted uranium pollution here, etc.

 

People think Minnesota is "liberal" -- but as Chomsky says the corporations promote a "liberal bias" to the media because it actually limits the left extent of the debate -- as if nothing more left can be discussed. Minnesota is corporate imperialism pretending to be liberal and so the liberals promoted eugenics in the 1930s and now it's depleted uranium and land mines and no one hardly even protests about it and Cargill is causing mass starvation by dumping corporate-state subsidized food worldwide, wiping out family farmers.

[joeblast]

I dont understand how "liberal" jives with statist-progressive, its as if the classical liberal concept was specifically stolen for the purpose of creating a notion antithetical to the ideas of classical liberalism. I'm anti-statist, because its the statist governments that allow themselves to be bought by corporations to begin with. So there winds up being a large-corporation problem that is enabled and abetted by an overzealous government, and the pushings of collectivist memes are merely ways to consolidate centralized control. Its basically the very reason that OWS was a total failure, because they looked to the government to help with the corporate banker problem, and the government nodded and winked at the large corporations and banks, shuffled them off to the sides, all the while spreading the meme of tea party racism (et al) vociferously so as not to let the two factions realize what should be a common goal.

 

You'll never get such concessions out of a government that believes itself to be all powerful - the only sustainable path for government is a limited and enumerated one - where the people are well enough informed so as to hold their officials' feet to the fire. So long as an all powerful gub can dictate this that and the other thing, you'll have them doing this like resource wars and capitulating to bankers and large corporations.

[ralis]

I dont understand how "liberal" jives with statist-progressive, its as if the classical liberal concept was specifically stolen for the purpose of creating a notion antithetical to the ideas of classical liberalism. I'm anti-statist, because its the statist governments that allow themselves to be bought by corporations to begin with. So there winds up being a large-corporation problem that is enabled and abetted by an overzealous government, and the pushings of collectivist memes are merely ways to consolidate centralized control. Its basically the very reason that OWS was a total failure, because they looked to the government to help with the corporate banker problem, and the government nodded and winked at the large corporations and banks, shuffled them off to the sides, all the while spreading the meme of tea party racism (et al) vociferously so as not to let the two factions realize what should be a common goal.

 

You'll never get such concessions out of a government that believes itself to be all powerful - the only sustainable path for government is a limited and enumerated one - where the people are well enough informed so as to hold their officials' feet to the fire. So long as an all powerful gub can dictate this that and the other thing, you'll have them doing this like resource wars and capitulating to bankers and large corporations.

 

BTW this thread is in regards to genocide in Iraq. I suppose you could care less how many people have been slaughtered by paranoid right wing military intervention against a sovereign country. Which by the way is a direct violation of international law. That law was established in the Nuremberg Tribunals. War crimes!

 

The problem is that your far right wing tea bagger party is refusing to cut the military budget. Having a bloated standing army justifies the excuse to use it. Sen. Graham wants military intervention in Syria. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57575203/graham-calls-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-syria/. The military industrial corporate agenda is what Eisenhower warned about. The root of these problems is in regards to human primate tribal behavior. Without checks and balances which you are wanting to remove, 'Social Darwinism' and other extreme forms of abuse occur.

 

What you propose is a return to feudalism!

Edited March 22, 2013 by ralis

[joeblast]

I'm sure that's going to be some pathetic progressive vitriol that ignores what my statement was, adds in tea baggers, bringing us back to the dark ages, shoves its head in the sand wrt/ governmental abuse (unless it comes from anyone not a progressive democrat)...

 

...lol, I should have just written your reply before clicking do you want to see this post anyway

[ralis]

I'm sure that's going to be some pathetic progressive vitriol that ignores what my statement was, adds in tea baggers, bringing us back to the dark ages, shoves its head in the sand wrt/ governmental abuse (unless it comes from anyone not a progressive democrat)...

 

...lol, I should have just written your reply before clicking do you want to see this post anyway

 

For some bizarre reason you can't seem to discuss the OP. Humans have not changed as you so desperately want to believe. Stick to the topic!

 

Tea baggers are included given that the tea bag representatives in Congress won't cut the military budget.

Edited March 22, 2013 by ralis

[voidisyinyang]

I dont understand how "liberal" jives with statist-progressive, its as if the classical liberal concept was specifically stolen for the purpose of creating a notion antithetical to the ideas of classical liberalism. I'm anti-statist, because its the statist governments that allow themselves to be bought by corporations to begin with. So there winds up being a large-corporation problem that is enabled and abetted by an overzealous government, and the pushings of collectivist memes are merely ways to consolidate centralized control. Its basically the very reason that OWS was a total failure, because they looked to the government to help with the corporate banker problem, and the government nodded and winked at the large corporations and banks, shuffled them off to the sides, all the while spreading the meme of tea party racism (et al) vociferously so as not to let the two factions realize what should be a common goal.

 

You'll never get such concessions out of a government that believes itself to be all powerful - the only sustainable path for government is a limited and enumerated one - where the people are well enough informed so as to hold their officials' feet to the fire. So long as an all powerful gub can dictate this that and the other thing, you'll have them doing this like resource wars and capitulating to bankers and large corporations.

 

 

Yeah the "classical liberal" position is naive. Noam Chomsky is also a classical liberal and so Chomsky cites Wilhelm von Humboldt as one of his main influences.

 

So if you study the classical liberalist von Humboldt you find out he gave a lecture on Indian Vedanta philosophy which influenced a young Hegel to conjure up his statist ideologies. http://books.google.com/books?id=UXIvUFR3P74C&pg=PA367&lpg=PA367&dq=wilhelm+von+humboldt+vedanta+hegel&source=bl&ots=A2l4k4fQzd&sig=qfTsffss6vVC0m707lIXTAb1yD0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RrZMUZHbO8Xt2QWe9IGQBQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wilhelm%20von%20humboldt%20vedanta%20hegel&f=false googlebook link

 

http://secure.pdcnet.org/owl/content/owl_2012_0043_40910_0075_0099

 

If a Western philosopher has to be chosen I would back Chomsky's support of Rousseau who stated that civilization is "a conspiracy of the elites."

 

 

‘Rousseau argues that civil society is

hardly more than a conspiracy by the rich to guarantee their plunder.’”638 Barry Loberfeld, “Who Would Be a Free Man? The Political Economy of Noam Chomsky,” Liberty, February

2003 citing The Chomsky Reader, edited by James Peck (Pantheon, 1987), p. 141.

 

 

the problem with this fake "classical liberal" b.s. is that modern technology is completely based on the corporate-state monopolies -- as Professor David F. Noble so well exposed.

 

So for example the book "America By Design" is all about how the elite think tanks like Carnegie, Rockefeller and Ford, etc. actually control the ivy league schools and then these schools focus education just to serve the military corporations.

 

So David F. Noble's follow up book "Forces of Production" is all about how M.I.T. will destroy independent inventors in order to control the patent rights of technology so that automation can be maintained at the expense of worker control of production - even though it is less efficient for the economy.

 

It's all about irrational power and control - it's really about the phallus - male "penis envy" - phallic wars -- due to the Oedipus Conflict - it is closeted homosexuality as misogyny and this goes back to Plato.

 

So David F. Noble then documents how rational science arose out of the monasteries taking up NeoPlatonic philosophy from the Arabs -- and so his books "The Religion of Technology" and "World Without Women" focus on this.

 

Anyway so the so-called "classical liberal" philosophy is not radical enough because it does not question Platonic philosophy.

 

O.K. I'll quote from my book to expose this false dichotomy of liberalism versus statism:

 

 

The paradox of this Platonic idealism with a modern materialism can be found in the early colonial period in America (becoming the U.S.). Tom Bethell, in his The Noblest Triumph: Property and Prosperity Though the Ages (St. Martins Griffin, 1998), argues that since the

indigenous tribes called the Indians didn’t have private property they “will almost certainly be in a state of conflict” while the English colonists were enjoying the “fruits” lacking in the native tribes. “Their native American neighbors, lacking the institution [of private property], were

mortgaging ‘their whole countries’ to obtain these fruits.” (p. 36) The irony of this misrepresentation can not be overstated considering the colonists relied first on the genocidal decimation of 90% of the Indians by English disease. The colonists later relied on attacking the

Indians, killing off the remaining 60% to 80% of the New England indigenous native population by 1680.

 

Yet Bethell emphasizes the colonists holding materialistic private property as sacred, in contrast to the Platonic ideal realm of a socialist slave state. Bethell titles the chapter “Plato’s Conceit: Property at Jamestown and Plymouth” in recognizing Governor Bradford of the Plymouth Colony who compared early American communal land ownership to Plato’s ideal state. Bethell notes that Governor Bradford relied on Jean Bodin’s critique of Plato’s utopianism (The Six Books of the Commonwealth, 1576). “In Plato’s ideal realm, private property would be abolished or curtailed, and most inhabitants reduced to slavery, supervised by high-minded, ascetic guardians.” (p. 43)

 

Bethell is, in turn, critiquing George D. Langon’s book Pilgrim Colony (Yale University Press, 1966) which argued that it wasn’t communal land ownership but rather imperial taxes (or a corporate investment) on the colonists which drove the property reform – a tax rate (or dividend)

of 50%.122 As per the paradox of this Hegelian dialectic we have a false dichotomy, just as the secret society elites in the U.S. have funded both communism and fascism – the opposite extremes of private property or corporate-state ownership.123 The deeper issue that must be addressed in this “strategy of tension” or conspiratorial “false flag” paradox is the misrepresented, and now conveniently ignored, original indigenous nonwestern Indian culture, relying on shamanic consciousness.

 

122 The Plymouth Colony originated with a royal charter and royal patent issued by King James I of England to the

London Company investors, although the colonists couldn’t land in the Colony of Virginia due to lack of supplies.

The patent later expired and was renewed by a patent issued by the Earl of Warwick, legally not a “royal” patent.

After England’s civil war Charles II began reasserting colonial powers in 1665. A period of conflict with England

began arising out of the Plymouth Colony’s King Philip’s War with the Native Americans and the increasing fees,

taxes and regulations asserted by England.

 

123 See note 32 Supra on Anthony Sutton’s Hegelian dialectics research.

 

The men are

failing to truly find love with the females since the technology is still based on repressed sexual

energy which gets projected as oppressive technology. The sexual energy never “makes contact”

with real consciousness as is the case in nonwestern shamanic culture which Paglia traces back

to the early Greeks – in other words the early Greeks like Pericles sublimated their sexual energy

while the later Greeks, setting up the Greek Miracle, came out of the homoerotic and misogynist

culture. If the females are lucky then the technology protects them from the dangers of the other

males. Paglia says the repressed homoerotic dynamic of the West can try to impress the females

but in the end Mother Nature will win.

 

Science, as documented by former M.I.T. history professor David F. Noble’s book The

Religion of Technology, is a tantric quest for technology to be the great Demiurge or Freemason

Master of the Universe! About 1/3rd of U.S. university research is military funded and in the

1950s 70% of physicists were military funded so science is inseparable from genocidal

imperialism.644

 

644 Daniel S. Greenberg, The Politics of Pure Science: An inquiry into the relationship between science and

government in the United States (New American Library, 1970).

Edited March 22, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus

[ralis]

Yeah the "classical liberal" position is naive. Noam Chomsky is also a classical liberal and so Chomsky cites Wilhelm von Humboldt as one of his main influences.

 

So if you study the classical liberalist von Humboldt you find out he gave a lecture on Indian Vedanta philosophy which influenced a young Hegel to conjure up his statist ideologies. http://books.google.com/books?id=UXIvUFR3P74C&pg=PA367&lpg=PA367&dq=wilhelm+von+humboldt+vedanta+hegel&source=bl&ots=A2l4k4fQzd&sig=qfTsffss6vVC0m707lIXTAb1yD0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RrZMUZHbO8Xt2QWe9IGQBQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wilhelm%20von%20humboldt%20vedanta%20hegel&f=false googlebook link

 

http://secure.pdcnet.org/owl/content/owl_2012_0043_40910_0075_0099

 

If a Western philosopher has to be chosen I would back Chomsky's support of Rousseau who stated that civilization is "a conspiracy of the elites."

 

 

 

 

the problem with this fake "classical liberal" b.s. is that modern technology is completely based on the corporate-state monopolies -- as Professor David F. Noble so well exposed.

 

So for example the book "America By Design" is all about how the elite think tanks like Carnegie, Rockefeller and Ford, etc. actually control the ivy league schools and then these schools focus education just to serve the military corporations.

 

So David F. Noble's follow up book "Forces of Production" is all about how M.I.T. will destroy independent inventors in order to control the patent rights of technology so that automation can be maintained at the expense of worker control of production - even though it is less efficient for the economy.

 

It's all about irrational power and control - it's really about the phallus - male "penis envy" - phallic wars -- due to the Oedipus Conflict - it is closeted homosexuality as misogyny and this goes back to Plato.

 

So David F. Noble then documents how rational science arose out of the monasteries taking up NeoPlatonic philosophy from the Arabs -- and so his books "The Religion of Technology" and "World Without Women" focus on this.

 

Anyway so the so-called "classical liberal" philosophy is not radical enough because it does not question Platonic philosophy.

 

O.K. I'll quote from my book to expose this false dichotomy of liberalism versus statism:

 

 

 

122 The Plymouth Colony originated with a royal charter and royal patent issued by King James I of England to the

London Company investors, although the colonists couldn’t land in the Colony of Virginia due to lack of supplies.

The patent later expired and was renewed by a patent issued by the Earl of Warwick, legally not a “royal” patent.

After England’s civil war Charles II began reasserting colonial powers in 1665. A period of conflict with England

began arising out of the Plymouth Colony’s King Philip’s War with the Native Americans and the increasing fees,

taxes and regulations asserted by England.

 

123 See note 32 Supra on Anthony Sutton’s Hegelian dialectics research.

 

The men are

failing to truly find love with the females since the technology is still based on repressed sexual

energy which gets projected as oppressive technology. The sexual energy never “makes contact”

with real consciousness as is the case in nonwestern shamanic culture which Paglia traces back

to the early Greeks – in other words the early Greeks like Pericles sublimated their sexual energy

while the later Greeks, setting up the Greek Miracle, came out of the homoerotic and misogynist

culture. If the females are lucky then the technology protects them from the dangers of the other

males. Paglia says the repressed homoerotic dynamic of the West can try to impress the females

but in the end Mother Nature will win.

 

Science, as documented by former M.I.T. history professor David F. Noble’s book The

Religion of Technology, is a tantric quest for technology to be the great Demiurge or Freemason

Master of the Universe! About 1/3rd of U.S. university research is military funded and in the

1950s 70% of physicists were military funded so science is inseparable from genocidal

imperialism.644

 

644 Daniel S. Greenberg, The Politics of Pure Science: An inquiry into the relationship between science and

government in the United States (New American Library, 1970).

 

 

Hobbes should be included in this discussion in regards to the 'social contract'? The elites are defining the social structure.

Edited March 22, 2013 by ralis

[voidisyinyang]

Hobbes should be included in this discussion in regards to the 'social contract'?

 

Actually my dad who considered himself a classical liberalist was friends with a law school colleague who was a law professor writing a book on Hobbes. But this law school professor had gone to U of Chicago and he was a Leo Straussian student...

 

So I think with Hobbes you get into the Straussian fascist deal which is really just Platonic philosophy with the secret "Big Lie" mentality.

 

But of course people will interpret Hobbes differently.

 

My point is all these Westerners really don't matter since they don't getting into the "being" of a person based on meditation and yoga -- Gurdjieff gets into this difference.

 

I mean political views are just a reflection of the subconscious hard-wiring of the brain neurons from early childhood experiences.

 

So intellectual discussions never change a person's political views from my experience and I used to do door to door political activism and tons of petitions and debates for senate votes, city council votes, etc. letters to the editors and op-eds and speeches to judges and so forth.

 

I remember one time I was canvassing for an environmental organization and I had on my Free Mumia t-shirt and wow that really pissed someone off -- that I was supporting a cop killer. haha.

 

O.K. so Leo Strauss wrote a book on Hobbes -- go figure.

 

ah can't remember his name oh yeah!

 

This dude: http://prq.sagepub.com/content/44/4/853.extract

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=eeBTv0SspGIC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=thomas+s.++schrock+hobbes&source=bl&ots=0PuhVvdtQ3&sig=xTynOW5yv5D4O0q7JbntEKF8ChQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dM5MUY6QNOaR2wW0poCwAg&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=thomas%20s.%20%20schrock%20hobbes&f=false

 

So it's cited here....

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=C-gJ5YwN_awC&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=hobbes+strauss+schrock&source=bl&ots=ML7vGHSB_O&sig=r9bgU5nkLDtCZ56spq-Lsp4nSlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ks9MUYGfB-Lq2AWFq4HwBg&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=hobbes%20strauss%20schrock&f=false

 

Included in this book -- on googlereview....

 

Anyway I like say the Diggers and the Levellers -- they didn't need any high-falutin' theorists to justify their inherent drive for freedom from the corporate-state enclosure movements.

 

http://uncharted.org/frownland/books/Polanyi/POLANYI%20KARL%20-%20The%20Great%20Transformation%20-%20v.1.0.html

 

This is one of my favorites....

 

http://www.nysun.com/arts/reconsiderations-the-great-transformation-by-karl/79250/

 

 

Polanyi identified four pillars of this dying civilization — the international balance of powers, the gold standard, the liberal state, and the self-regulating market economy. By 1944 these all seemed to have been swept away. But, in truth, the first three were derivative of the fourth, the self-regulating market — the true fundament of this civilization. "The Great Transformation" of the title, Polanyi believed, was the imposition of the free market, an imposition that in turn spawned these other institutions, which in turn produced the collapse of 19th-century civilization. Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin, Polanyi suggested, were the monster children of the free market.

 

I love how this "economics professor" just attacks Polanyi as some sort of idiotic romantic....

 

Karl Polanyi, The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time (Boston: Beacon Press, 1944)

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ipe/polanyi.htm

 

http://gerusija.com/downloads/Karl%20Polanyi%20for%20the%2021Century%20Market%20Economy%20as%20a%20Political%20Project.pdf

 

O.K. a 2007 book applying Polyani to today's world.

[ralis]

Actually my dad who considered himself a classical liberalist was friends with a law school colleague who was a law professor writing a book on Hobbes. But this law school professor had gone to U of Chicago and he was a Leo Straussian student...

 

So I think with Hobbes you get into the Straussian fascist deal which is really just Platonic philosophy with the secret "Big Lie" mentality.

 

But of course people will interpret Hobbes differently.

 

My point is all these Westerners really don't matter since they don't getting into the "being" of a person based on meditation and yoga -- Gurdjieff gets into this difference.

 

I mean political views are just a reflection of the subconscious hard-wiring of the brain neurons from early childhood experiences.

 

So intellectual discussions never change a person's political views from my experience and I used to do door to door political activism and tons of petitions and debates for senate votes, city council votes, etc. letters to the editors and op-eds and speeches to judges and so forth.

 

I remember one time I was canvassing for an environmental organization and I had on my Free Mumia t-shirt and wow that really pissed someone off -- that I was supporting a cop killer. haha.

 

O.K. so Leo Strauss wrote a book on Hobbes -- go figure.

 

ah can't remember his name oh yeah!

 

This dude: http://prq.sagepub.com/content/44/4/853.extract

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=eeBTv0SspGIC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=thomas+s.++schrock+hobbes&source=bl&ots=0PuhVvdtQ3&sig=xTynOW5yv5D4O0q7JbntEKF8ChQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dM5MUY6QNOaR2wW0poCwAg&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=thomas%20s.%20%20schrock%20hobbes&f=false

 

So it's cited here....

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=C-gJ5YwN_awC&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=hobbes+strauss+schrock&source=bl&ots=ML7vGHSB_O&sig=r9bgU5nkLDtCZ56spq-Lsp4nSlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ks9MUYGfB-Lq2AWFq4HwBg&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=hobbes%20strauss%20schrock&f=false

 

Included in this book -- on googlereview....

 

Anyway I like say the Diggers and the Levellers -- they didn't need any high-falutin' theorists to justify their inherent drive for freedom from the corporate-state enclosure movements.

 

http://uncharted.org/frownland/books/Polanyi/POLANYI%20KARL%20-%20The%20Great%20Transformation%20-%20v.1.0.html

 

This is one of my favorites....

 

http://www.nysun.com/arts/reconsiderations-the-great-transformation-by-karl/79250/

 

 

 

I love how this "economics professor" just attacks Polanyi as some sort of idiotic romantic....

 

Karl Polanyi, The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time (Boston: Beacon Press, 1944)

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ipe/polanyi.htm

 

http://gerusija.com/downloads/Karl%20Polanyi%20for%20the%2021Century%20Market%20Economy%20as%20a%20Political%20Project.pdf

 

O.K. a 2007 book applying Polyani to today's world.

 

 

Strauss being the theorist behind the Neocon movement that started and advocated the invasion of Iraq. Fallujah is reported having high incidence of birth defects. Depleted uranium is not depleted.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8548707.stm

[ralis]

With the sequester in place, wars and funding for the military take precedent, while those in need suffer.

 

 

[voidisyinyang]

With the sequester in place, wars and funding for the military take precedent, while those in need suffer.

 

 

 

yep pretty basic - amazing how mind-controlled MSM is.

 

Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent was on http://linktv.org last night.

 

Classic documentary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQhEBCWMe44

[voidisyinyang]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/mar/06/james-steele-america-iraq-video

 

New BBC doc on U.S. James Steele running torture centers in Iraq and training death squads just as he did in Central America.

[voidisyinyang]

http://www.pbs.org/pov/granito/watch-granito-online.php#.UU5bs1cYqSp

 

Guatemala General goes on genocide trial for U.S. funded fascist revolution of Central America.... spread to Iraq.

 

documentary.

Edited March 24, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus

[joeblast]

Yeah the "classical liberal" position is naive. Noam Chomsky is also a classical liberal and so Chomsky cites Wilhelm von Humboldt as one of his main influences.

 

So if you study the classical liberalist von Humboldt you find out he gave a lecture on Indian Vedanta philosophy which influenced a young Hegel to conjure up his statist ideologies. http://books.google.com/books?id=UXIvUFR3P74C&pg=PA367&lpg=PA367&dq=wilhelm+von+humboldt+vedanta+hegel&source=bl&ots=A2l4k4fQzd&sig=qfTsffss6vVC0m707lIXTAb1yD0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RrZMUZHbO8Xt2QWe9IGQBQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wilhelm%20von%20humboldt%20vedanta%20hegel&f=false googlebook link

 

http://secure.pdcnet.org/owl/content/owl_2012_0043_40910_0075_0099

 

If a Western philosopher has to be chosen I would back Chomsky's support of Rousseau who stated that civilization is "a conspiracy of the elites."

 

 

 

 

the problem with this fake "classical liberal" b.s. is that modern technology is completely based on the corporate-state monopolies -- as Professor David F. Noble so well exposed.

 

So for example the book "America By Design" is all about how the elite think tanks like Carnegie, Rockefeller and Ford, etc. actually control the ivy league schools and then these schools focus education just to serve the military corporations.

 

So David F. Noble's follow up book "Forces of Production" is all about how M.I.T. will destroy independent inventors in order to control the patent rights of technology so that automation can be maintained at the expense of worker control of production - even though it is less efficient for the economy.

 

It's all about irrational power and control - it's really about the phallus - male "penis envy" - phallic wars -- due to the Oedipus Conflict - it is closeted homosexuality as misogyny and this goes back to Plato.

 

So David F. Noble then documents how rational science arose out of the monasteries taking up NeoPlatonic philosophy from the Arabs -- and so his books "The Religion of Technology" and "World Without Women" focus on this.

 

Anyway so the so-called "classical liberal" philosophy is not radical enough because it does not question Platonic philosophy.

 

O.K. I'll quote from my book to expose this false dichotomy of liberalism versus statism:

 

 

 

122 The Plymouth Colony originated with a royal charter and royal patent issued by King James I of England to the

London Company investors, although the colonists couldn’t land in the Colony of Virginia due to lack of supplies.

The patent later expired and was renewed by a patent issued by the Earl of Warwick, legally not a “royal” patent.

After England’s civil war Charles II began reasserting colonial powers in 1665. A period of conflict with England

began arising out of the Plymouth Colony’s King Philip’s War with the Native Americans and the increasing fees,

taxes and regulations asserted by England.

 

123 See note 32 Supra on Anthony Sutton’s Hegelian dialectics research.

 

The men are

failing to truly find love with the females since the technology is still based on repressed sexual

energy which gets projected as oppressive technology. The sexual energy never “makes contact”

with real consciousness as is the case in nonwestern shamanic culture which Paglia traces back

to the early Greeks – in other words the early Greeks like Pericles sublimated their sexual energy

while the later Greeks, setting up the Greek Miracle, came out of the homoerotic and misogynist

culture. If the females are lucky then the technology protects them from the dangers of the other

males. Paglia says the repressed homoerotic dynamic of the West can try to impress the females

but in the end Mother Nature will win.

 

Science, as documented by former M.I.T. history professor David F. Noble’s book The

Religion of Technology, is a tantric quest for technology to be the great Demiurge or Freemason

Master of the Universe! About 1/3rd of U.S. university research is military funded and in the

1950s 70% of physicists were military funded so science is inseparable from genocidal

imperialism.644

 

644 Daniel S. Greenberg, The Politics of Pure Science: An inquiry into the relationship between science and

government in the United States (New American Library, 1970).

I'm not quite sure how pointing to departures and bastardizations thereof is an indictment of the belief and view itself. Its like all these bailouts with various idiots declaring that "capitalism had failed" - yeah, the only way it failed was that its pillars were abandoned so that those with power could get around the fundamental rules that made it work. You cant call big corporations and huge banks with the playing field tilted massively in their direction a result, it is a carefully calculated bribery & departure.

 

http://www.pbs.org/pov/granito/watch-granito-online.php#.UU5bs1cYqSp

 

Guatemala General goes on genocide trial for U.S. funded fascist revolution of Central America.... spread to Iraq.

 

documentary.

Yeah I was pretty surprised (or was I) to see hillary and obama telling guatemala that they should ignore what's in their constitution and keep the guy in charge who was defiling said constitution...(that of course doesnt speak for elsewhere, but it does speak to our current crop of "leaders" lovin their statism.)

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I'm not quite sure how pointing to departures and bastardizations thereof is an indictment of the belief and view itself. Its like all these bailouts with various idiots declaring that "capitalism had failed" - yeah, the only way it failed was that its pillars were abandoned so that those with power could get around the fundamental rules that made it work. You cant call big corporations and huge banks with the playing field tilted massively in their direction a result, it is a carefully calculated bribery & departure.

 

Yeah I was pretty surprised (or was I) to see hillary and obama telling guatemala that they should ignore what's in their constitution and keep the guy in charge who was defiling said constitution...(that of course doesnt speak for elsewhere, but it does speak to our current crop of "leaders" lovin their statism.)

 

You should read Noam Chomsky -- he exposes that the "free market" has never existed!

 

I wrote a paper for an economics class called the "incorrect supply and demand model." The instructor passed the paper to his colleagues even though they were not teaching the class -- all they could do is 1) ask me to change the subject and 2) try to claim minor grammatical errors. The final comment was "I still think economists are smarter than you think."

 

haha.

 

So for example I initiated a campaign to get the U of MN to join the Workers Rights Consortium to boycott sweatshops making sports clothing. So this was fought by the right wing brain washed students.

 

So what did I do? I quoted Noam Chomsky who proves that for example the British empire destroyed the textile industries of India and Egypt so that England could then sell the clothing -- it wasn't a free market at all!!

 

So you should read -- "World Orders: Old and New" by Noam Chomsky published by Columbia University Press 1994.

 

But you know what? My dad would give me all of his right wing "free market" books and so I read them and I wrote detailed critiques of them and gave the critiques back to my dad. Then I asked my dad to read Noam Chomsky.

 

He refused -- and why should he? Power just pretends to take part in intellectual debate. This is what I pointed out to Ralis -- you are actually relying on fascist authoritarian power structures and not intellectual debate. haha.

 

So for example when I presented the Noam Chomsky info then the student senate passed my resolution but the chairperson or whatever the leader of the senate - President - he was not there and then he vetoed the vote.

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except in concept