phore Posted March 24, 2013 Hey I recently visited krogers simple truth organic and natural food label Facebook page. facebook.com/simpletruth I've noticed that most of the recent comments are concerning the use of genetically modified ingredients in their natural foods. They have a very standard answer that does not really answer the question. They say that their organic products are gmo free but their natural foods are not gmo free. Anyone want to help mob their page with non gmo questions and requests? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted March 24, 2013 buying organic is the only option. there is no regulation for what can be called "natural" so assume that when a product says natural, but not organic, it is COMPLETELY full of shit. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted March 25, 2013 sorry i may have killed your thread with my "simple truth" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted March 25, 2013 buying organic is the only option. there is no regulation for what can be called "natural" so assume that when a product says natural, but not organic, it is COMPLETELY full of shit. For big operation, I agree. "Organic" requires certification, which requires $, so smaller operations in local markets may not be certified organic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted March 25, 2013 where are these places that sell organic food at such a low price that they can't afford certification? i can't find them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanzon Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) where are these places that sell organic food at such a low price that they can't afford certification? i can't find them  Great question. Edited March 25, 2013 by Sanzon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted March 25, 2013 where are these places that sell organic food at such a low price that they can't afford certification? i can't find them Family farmers, local co-ops and markets, farm markets, even people's backyards. Actually a niche where small businesses can do okay by promoting and communicating with their customers about their products, but cut overhead by not going thru government certification process. I get monthly vegetables in growing season from a co-op and meat and eggs from a farmer a few counties out, they follow organic practices but haven't gotten certification because it costs hundreds of dollars and requires lots of ongoing paperwork and inspection. You won't find anything at Krogers. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted March 27, 2013 I actually work at a milk processing plant that makes Simple Truth among many other organic products plus non organic as well. Organic certification is a pain in the ass. You have to supply proof of using organic feed, non hormonal treatment as well as many other things to get organic certification. Â One funny insight for you, I'll use organic as the example. When a plant processes some organic half and half for example, they will use the same milk to fill whatever products they have, unless a certain product requires a special step or process. So you might find the same milk in simple truth cartons as you do organic valley cartons. Or O Organic which is a store brand might be the same as the milk in organic valley. The difference? About a buck or more on price. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted March 27, 2013 buying food is the problem, growing food is the solution.Conveniences cannot be relied upon, they cannot be the norm. otherwise you have no control over the[ir] quality.The less we consume their poison, the less they can afford to poison us. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted March 27, 2013 oh lookie lookie: Â http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-congress-silently-slips-830/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted March 28, 2013 Other options than big box stores  http://www.localharvest.org/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) buying organic is the only option. there is no regulation for what can be called "natural" so assume that when a product says natural, but not organic, it is COMPLETELY full of shit. Â This is true. I found out that "Natural flavours" means... that is tastes like something natural... but it itself isnt haha. Â We need a system to regulate and define these terms. Â I agree with NAJA, we really need to become self sufficent again. Â Physically and spiritually... hm interesting that. Â Â Â Â Edited March 29, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted March 29, 2013 Here's an online grocer committed to non gmo products. Greenpolkadotbox.com 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Whole foods is beginning a mandatory gmo labeling initiative for all of its products. http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/03/20/whole-foods-gmo-labels-grocery-shopping/ Â California gmo labeling did not pass. Also congress recently passed a rider popularly called " Monsanto protection act" with another bill. http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-protection-act-5-terrifying-things-know-about-hr-933-provision-1156079 Edited March 30, 2013 by phore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted March 30, 2013 vermont and washington have GMO labeling initiatives underway for 2014 vote  it will happen eventually. CA prop 37 was only defeated by 53% to 47% despite the pro movement being outfunded enormously by monsanto, dow, etc  they aren't going to be able to get away with that indefinitely. Eventually USA will label GMO foods... like the rest of the civilized world lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flolfolil Posted March 30, 2013 my last post was about the monsanto protection act someone didn't read the whole thread haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted March 30, 2013 Â my last post was about the monsanto protection act someone didn't read the whole thread haha I remember reading that article now. I've heard it so much the past few weeks that its blurring together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites