Is John Chang really that hard to find and train with?

[KenBrace]

Very interesting! You're quite fortunate! As far as training with Chang I seriously doubt that's going to happen, but good luck in meeting him!

[Formless Tao]

With the heading of this topic I have brought this upon myself, I am getting messages from new members of TTB trying to find John Chang often.

 

If you read this topic please do not waste your time and my time asking for help to locate JC, I cannot and will not help you.

 

If and/or when I have an update about meeting JC, I MAY post something on TTB but that wont be for quite some time...

 

Peace FT

 

Tongtong...

[yabyum24]

In one vid it says that his foundation practice is meditation. Does anyone know about the nature of this meditation?

[BluePhoenix133]

Mo pai looks incredible, i would love to be able to practice it because it seems to be a very effective way to heal people but also because i have heard it is a way to attain Nirvana. That once one masters all 72 levels they reach Nirvana. If only there was someone in the UK that taught it

[BluePhoenix133]

Another reason i would want to learn is to find a way to deal with Archons/Entities as according to one of his student Jim McMillan there is a way...something to do with strengthening yang chi. Im pretty sure ive been messed with my whole life by entities, only last year did i really consider it after waking up in sleep paralysis with a grey standing over me, tbh i would like to get revenge for having been messed with i know realize that my self destructive behavior and addictions in the past where most like encouraged if not caused by entities.

[KJTR]

Did john chang ever teach you? What happend when you met him?!?!?!?

[BaguaKicksAss]

Another reason i would want to learn is to find a way to deal with Archons/Entities as according to one of his student Jim McMillan there is a way...something to do with strengthening yang chi. Im pretty sure ive been messed with my whole life by entities, only last year did i really consider it after waking up in sleep paralysis with a grey standing over me, tbh i would like to get revenge for having been messed with i know realize that my self destructive behavior and addictions in the past where most like encouraged if not caused by entities.

 

Actually there aren't many paths which don't have something within them to get rid of entities. No reason to go hunting down some impossible to find teacher, or obscure path for something as basic as that.

[KJTR]

After watching John Chang on YouTube recently and then reading the Magus Of Java I decided to do some research about him and send sms to my Chinese Indonesian wife's family in Indo to see if they had heard of him. I received 2 replys that said they have never heard of him But I did not give up, I sent the YouTube video to one of my wife's uncle's who watched da video and sent me an sms back saying he knows John Chang but he is known by another name. Chinese Indonesians have their Indo names but also go by their Chinese names when with other Chinese. The uncle advised me that John Chang had been to his place on a number of occasions to work on my wife's Grandfather, (Kungkung) and da uncle I was in touch with. It turns out that my wife is related to John Chang by marriage and John Chang's niece staying with me in Melbourne last year and will be coming again to visit at the end of this year. I was married in Indo, lived and worked their for more than a year and I can speak Indo. As I visit Indonesia once a year and have stayed in John Chang's city on numerous occasions staying with the uncle, my next visit I will set up a consultation with the man known to the west as The Magus Of Java ; Dynamo Jack ; John Chang... BTW my mother is a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor and I have been studying Philosophy for the last 13 years. My favourite though is Taoism.

Did john chang ever teach you? What happend when you met him?!?!?!? What ever happened to his book?!?! Don't leave me hangin bro!

[Formless Tao]

KJTR,

 

Did you read post 28?

 

If you didn't I'll paste part of it below for you...

 

 

 

"If and/or when I have an update about meeting JC, I MAY post something on TTB but that wont be for quite some time..."

Edited August 20, 2014 by Formless Tao

[KJTR]

...Im my defesne the original post was made over a year ago.

[tao1]

KJTR,

 

Did you read post 28?

 

If you didn't I'll paste part of it below for you...

 

 

 

"If and/or when I have an update about meeting JC, I MAY post something on TTB but that wont be for quite some time..."

 

you expect us to believe that you were with john chang

 

i dont believe u

 

i can made up an entire story that i was with him too, giving no proof of it

 

you must be full of shit

 

specially the part that john chang is related to your wife

Edited August 14, 2015 by tao1

[Chang]

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Please be so good as to edit your post removing the insulting remark.

[soaring crane]

and perhaps check the dates on posts that you're responding to

[KenBrace]

you expect us to believe that you were with john chang

 

i dont believe u

 

i can made up an entire story that i was with him too, giving no proof of it

 

you must be full of shit

 

specially the part that john chang is related to your wife

 

True. He could make up a story. What does it matter? If he comes back here and posts about his trip to meet Chang then take it with a grain of salt. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

[tao1]

 

Moderation Message

 

Personal insults are not tolerated on this forum.

 

Please be so good as to edit your post removing the insulting remark.

 

but i didnt make any insult, full of shit doesnt have to be an insult, i copied from san andreas when cj tell smoke "ah smoke you are full of shit"

 

it means you are liying or something like that i think

 

smoke was telling he was going to pick her cousin "maria" from mexico, cj didnt believe him and in the end it was maria a drug

 

i have to still modify it?

[tao1]

and perhaps check the dates on posts that you're responding to

i know but bluephoenix answered like 9 months later, thats why i dared to respond the trheat

 

True. He could make up a story. What does it matter? If he comes back here and posts about his trip to meet Chang then take it with a grain of salt. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

yes, i didnt believe even kosta at first, until i saw the picture with john chang in my pdf version of the book, in the backcover

 

he says not only that he knows him but his wife is related to him, nigga please what the hell is that

 

and of course with no proof

 

also i saw an interview with kosta in this forum a long time ago, no proof i saw, i don't believe the answers were actually from kosta, 

Edited August 14, 2015 by tao1

[KenBrace]

Sure, maybe he is lying. But like I've stated it's really not possible to know either way. There's no reason to get all wrapped up. His claim means nothing until he provides evidence to prove what he says. Just leave it at that.

[tao1]

but it kinda hurts

[Chang]

Moderation Message.

 

tao1 has been suspended for seven days for the use of insulting words towards a fellow forum member, which he has failed to edit when requested to do so.

[Formless Tao]

Believe what you will. Nobody is trying to change your mind, just state a fact.

 

He is not hard to find like I said, but train with is out of the question.

 

If what I have said does not interest you then disregard it like you never read it.

 

In fact I'm more than happy for the moderator to delete this topic and delete my account.

 

I haven't been on TDB as I have found my true Guru. I hope you all also find yours.

 

I learnt alot from TDB and met some great people. TDB has served its purpose for me and now I disregard it.

 

Peace Yogi

Edited August 17, 2015 by Formless Tao

[andrewcan]

Hi Shandao. I have some questions regarding your post. Are you in Melbourne? Can I contact you somehow? Thx.

[Sudhamma]

Hi Everyone,

I came across this site while searching for answers to 'Yin Energy'. I've been a student practising a couple of qigong styles for the past 20 years or thereabout. Recently I came across 'Mo Pai' and Master David Chang and the book, The Macus of Java, in the internet and was intrigued by the emphasis of harnesting Yin engergy. As was said, most qigong systems centres on the Yang energy, by that I understood as that of the Universe, as Heavens is considered the greatest source of Yang, and the Earth, the greatest source of Yin. However, qigong practices of the traditional schools would use both extreme points of the body to gather energy, and with that, both yin and yang. Is there a system then that only harnest yin energy from the depths of the earth? If there is Mo Pai which was said to have originated from the Mt. Dragon and Tiger, Loong-Fu San, then there must be other systems that shared similar approach. To gather the yin energy one therefore must focus on both the Yung-quan and Hui-yin; and therefore, interested qigong practitioners must redirect their concentrations to these two points in their usual training. How far am I right?

[Mudfoot]

Change your "must" to "can" and you will be closer to the truth, since every style has its own approach.

[GSmaster]

Kind of impossible to do it now.

[idiot_stimpy]

I am very worried about Indonesia and the COVID-19. The pictures of those dropping in the street is frightening. Only Johns family will know the symptoms of his death. RIP.