RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 Madhyamaka reasonings are called reasonings for a reason. Madhyamaka takes no philosophical position. Its a system of nonimplicative negation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 Madhyamaka reasonings are called reasonings for a reason. Madhyamaka takes no philosophical position. Its a system of nonimplicative negation. That is nothing more than a reductionist view and fails to see reality. To negate is to take a position. What a boring philosophy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 To negate is to take a position. What a boring philosophy! These 2 statements show you have no idea what you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 So you claim you are not doing it right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLB Posted April 9, 2013 How can one prove or disprove the existence of a quality? I am going to go all Wittgenstein on you all and ask what language game this debate is happening within. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 These 2 statements show you have no idea what you are talking about. To negate is to take a position whether you believe it or not. To prove nothing exists is to take a position that nothing exists. This is the problem with fanatical Buddhists in that nothing is resolved but arguments ad infinitum which serves no one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted April 9, 2013 you are not doing it right there is no right young padawan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted April 9, 2013 emptyness and fullness.... yin and yang... existence and non existence...You are arguing... i am laughing.Actually it's annoying, but you do look silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted April 9, 2013 Would've, could've, should've. The Universe exists regardless of type of analysis used. lol, the Universe is a prerequisite for analysis happening! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 To negate is to take a position whether you believe it or not. Seriously you have no fucking idea what you are talking about as usual. If I say "That mother has no son", that implies the existence of a daughter etc. A nonimplicative negation is a simple negation that implies nothing else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 Seriously you have no fucking idea what you are talking about as usual. If I say "That mother has no son", that implies the existence of a daughter etc. A nonimplicative negation is a simple negation that implies nothing else. Nothing exists outside of conceptual consciousness? If you go to sleep then the universe doesn't exist? If so then prove it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 Its hilarious how you troll every Buddhist thread Like here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/27623-paying-homage-to-guru-rinpoche/#entry416251 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 Seriously you have no fucking idea what you are talking about as usual. Is that proper Buddhist discourse to someone by resorting to such demeaning statements. Your credibility is at an all time low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Why did malcolm warn against tibetan madhyamaka? Edited April 9, 2013 by konchog uma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Its hilarious how you troll every Buddhist thread Like here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/27623-paying-homage-to-guru-rinpoche/#entry416251 Like I have stated before, I was around the Buddhist scene for years and have a very good understanding of the whole trip. I am talking about the early 80's before some participating in this discussion were born. A lot of the philosophical discourse is just a manipulation of the minds of followers. Negate all you want and see where it leads. Nowhere but confusion. Edited April 9, 2013 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 Is that proper Buddhist discourse to someone by resorting to such demeaning statements. For you? Absolutely. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 Like I have stated before, I was around the Buddhist scene for years and have a very good understanding of the whole trip. A lot of the philosophical discourse is just a manipulation of the minds of followers. yeah sure. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted April 9, 2013 Its hilarious how you troll every Buddhist thread Like here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/27623-paying-homage-to-guru-rinpoche/#entry416251 bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted April 9, 2013 Is that proper Buddhist discourse to someone by resorting to such demeaning statements. Your credibility is at an all time low. its called reaping what you've sown. you're just reaping, ralis. thats all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Why did malcolm warn against tibetan madhyamaka? Please answer. Since I have no idea what he said. Edited April 10, 2013 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 9, 2013 Its hilarious how you troll every Buddhist thread Like here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/27623-paying-homage-to-guru-rinpoche/#entry416251 This thread is for enlightened Buddhist's only? Maybe I have gone beyond! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 10, 2013 Belief systems BS are the problem and until belief systems are seen through, resolved, liberated etc. no realization occurs. Hiding behind any philosophical structure for fear of the unknown is futile! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) CT got it (my particular drift anyway) and a few others here and there. Of course everyone is entitled to run with their own drift... Edited April 10, 2013 by 3bob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
