TRIDAYA? FAKE OR REAL

[h.uriahr]

Triangle breathing works like this.

 

On the inhale you breath in qi/prana down to your lower dantian. You then hold that breath while simultaneously pulling up your floor muscles and flattening/tightening your abdominal wall. In fact, try to make your entire lower region tighten and squeeze around the dantian. During this phase you are pressure cooking that qi, transforming it and compressing it. Do not over do it. Once you feel you've had enough you then exhale and pull the abs as far back to the spine as you can, comfortably. On the exhale alternate between forcing that qi into your spine and keeping it in the dantien.

 

Typically people start with 777 then 101010 then 12 or 13.'s going on up.

 

 

[林愛偉]

Greetings!

 

I actually read every single post of this 15 page thread (up to this point). There is a lot of really good info,

and then funny comments too.

 

In reference to the compression exercises posted earlier, Maybe a little bit of advice in the breathing:

 

Don't let the pressure of the breath move to the neck and head. Compression in reverse breathing can cause qi to rise, and at

such a stress from the heavy compression, can injure, upset, cause pain etc in the head, eyes, brain.

 

Pay close attention to maintaining focus on the breath and if there is pressure rising to the neck and head, slowly release the hold on the abdomen, exhale and return to abdominal breathing. After a few slow breaths, and perhaps a minute of two to calm down, resume the training.

 

In my set of compression exercises, the beginning levels are the whole body, excluding the neck and head. Then it moves to specific parts of the body. Further levels work into the bones, marrow, organs, and then energy centers. At that point it is not the compression using the physical pressure, but the mind: intent and will. Each stage has various experiences, and levels of progress.

 

In seeing the compression exercises in one of the previous pages, I recognized great similarities in what I do. I hope the above advice isn't taken lightly. Please be careful of the breath.

 

The pains and pressures in the lower dantian, and pelvic area I had experienced 11yrs years ago in my own training, at 22. While performing standing practices, I was thrown off my feet 3 times from going deeper into compression into the dan tian. Persistence that evening allowed me to progress in that practice. Also at age 13 with various energy centers vibrating to a point where while lying in meditation, the body would be bouncing up and down, and only grew stronger when trying to control it with breath. Throughout the years since 8yrs old, many more of these experiences and states were realized.

 

The extent of my practice is dependent upon the inability of the discriminating mind.

This means that one can progress in their practice, so long as they do not attach to their experiences, do not speculate on what they experience, do not be greedy for abilities, and do not create and believe in theories about how one thinks the world is. Simply practice as though there is no flavor, no sound, no sensation, nothing to see, no scent, and no state to realize.

 

 

Any who, it is such that after a while in one's practice, they get to a point where they will understand how to progress naturally. They will realize the method to practice intuitively. That is how I learned since a child.

 

Advice in this, is to practice diligently, do not chase after sensations, states, visions and especially abilities. Let those things come and go, and you will find that a lot stays with you, building up. Over time, it becomes apparent what you have "attained" as a result of practice. BUT remember, those are still small attainments, no matter what you can do.

 

The greatest spiritual ability is the manifestation of the human body. So many have one, and so little realize what they can do with it. The greatest attainment is the realization of one's inherent wisdom. Every one has it, and so few realize it.

 

***Added:

 

Please remember to drink water regularly when taking on compression cultivation, and any high level practices.

 

Peace and Blessings,

Lin

Edited May 9, 2013 by 林愛偉

[TaoIsTruth]

Greetings!

 

I actually read every single post of this 15 page thread (up to this point). There is a lot of really good info,

and then funny comments too.

 

In reference to the compression exercises posted earlier, Maybe a little bit of advice in the breathing:

 

Don't let the pressure of the breath move to the neck and head. Compression in reverse breathing can cause qi to rise, and at

such a stress from the heavy compression, can injure, upset, cause pain etc in the head, eyes, brain.

 

Pay close attention to maintaining focus on the breath and if there is pressure rising to the neck and head, slowly release the hold on the abdomen, exhale and return to abdominal breathing. After a few slow breaths, and perhaps a minute of two to calm down, resume the training.

 

In my set of compression exercises, the beginning levels are the whole body, excluding the neck and head. Then it moves to specific parts of the body. Further levels work into the bones, marrow, organs, and then energy centers. At that point it is not the compression using the physical pressure, but the mind: intent and will. Each stage has various experiences, and levels of progress.

 

In seeing the compression exercises in one of the previous pages, I recognized great similarities in what I do. I hope the above advice isn't taken lightly. Please be careful of the breath.

 

The pains and pressures in the lower dantian, and pelvic area I had experienced 11yrs years ago in my own training, at 22. While performing standing practices, I was thrown off my feet 3 times from going deeper into compression into the dan tian. Persistence that evening allowed me to progress in that practice. Also at age 13 with various energy centers vibrating to a point where while lying in meditation, the body would be bouncing up and down, and only grew stronger when trying to control it with breath. Throughout the years since 8yrs old, many more of these experiences and states were realized.

 

The extent of my practice is dependent upon the inability of the discriminating mind.

This means that one can progress in their practice, so long as they do not attach to their experiences, do not speculate on what they experience, do not be greedy for abilities, and do not create and believe in theories about how one thinks the world is. Simply practice as though there is no flavor, no sound, no sensation, nothing to see, no scent, and no state to realize.

 

 

Any who, it is such that after a while in one's practice, they get to a point where they will understand how to progress naturally. They will realize the method to practice intuitively. That is how I learned since a child.

 

Advice in this, is to practice diligently, do not chase after sensations, states, visions and especially abilities. Let those things come and go, and you will find that a lot stays with you, building up. Over time, it becomes apparent what you have "attained" as a result of practice. BUT remember, those are still small attainments, no matter what you can do.

 

The greatest spiritual ability is the manifestation of the human body. So many have one, and so little realize what they can do with it. The greatest attainment is the realization of one's inherent wisdom. Every one has it, and so few realize it.

 

***Added:

 

Please remember to drink water regularly when taking on compression cultivation, and any high level practices.

 

Peace and Blessings,

Lin

Thank you very much, what you share is truly pearls of wisdom...

[林愛偉]

Thank you very much, what you share is truly pearls of wisdom...

 

I'm grateful you find it useful.

[Jox]

Cutting the “cords” of the Dantien... Please let me know more...

How it is done, how do we know the cords are cut... What is difference after the cords are cut...

[Sifu ReL]

""""The extent of my practice is dependent upon the inability of the discriminating mind.

This means that one can progress in their practice, so long as they do not attach to their experiences, do not speculate on what they experience, do not be greedy for abilities, and do not create and believe in theories about how one thinks the world is. Simply practice as though there is no flavor, no sound, no sensation, nothing to see, no scent, and no state to realize.""""

 

thankyou,
i had to write these words down, i will say them to my mind and body everytime before i meditate.
may the blessing of the Almighty Ultimate Force be upon you.

 

Cutting the “cords” of the Dantien... Please let me know more...

How it is done, how do we know the cords are cut... What is difference after the cords are cut...

just learn Bagua Nei Gong, it will be alot alot easyer and healthyer!!
read bagua 36 songs.

[林愛偉]

""""The extent of my practice is dependent upon the inability of the discriminating mind.

 

This means that one can progress in their practice, so long as they do not attach to their experiences, do not speculate on what they experience, do not be greedy for abilities, and do not create and believe in theories about how one thinks the world is. Simply practice as though there is no flavor, no sound, no sensation, nothing to see, no scent, and no state to realize.""""

 

thankyou,

i had to write these words down, i will say them to my mind and body everytime before i meditate.

may the blessing of the Almighty Ultimate Force be upon you.

 

just learn Bagua Nei Gong, it will be alot alot easyer and healthyer!!

read bagua 36 songs.

 

 

I am humbled by your kind words. Thank you for finding it worth your attention.

[Kasuku]

SO.... did anyone try getting the attunements after all?

 

Lukman says he opens the inner power thats already latent in our body...

 

any thoughts?

[Friend]

Edited August 17, 2013 by Friend

[Kasuku]

Yeah... and i want to know where is the best place i can get the attunements because i want my mom to do it - lol inner power in two weeks... okay here we go...

Edited July 16, 2013 by Jascha

[MERCELESS ONE]

 

dont know where Lukman has gone.

lukeman was pure truth

[thelerner]

thought I'd bump this thread up.  Some very good stuff on it.

nice downloadable on p.15

Triangle breathing works like this. On the inhale you breath in qi/prana down to your lower dantian. You then hold that breath while simultaneously pulling up your floor muscles and flattening/tightening your abdominal wall. In fact, try to make your entire lower region tighten and squeeze around the dantian. During this phase you are pressure cooking that qi, transforming it and compressing it. Do not over do it. Once you feel you've had enough you then exhale and pull the abs as far back to the spine as you can, comfortably. On the exhale alternate between forcing that qi into your spine and keeping it in the dantien. Typically people start with 777 then 101010 then 12 or 13.'s going on up.  

 

& another H.Uhriar post 

Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:49 AM

The mo pai isnt .. unique when it comes to the first few levels.  They just take FOREVER to evolve to the next level whereas the other guys like Tridaya, etc, keep building rather quickly upon the first levels.  I think that the longer you perform the basics then the more power you get obviously but just try it.

 

Jascha,

 

   Be careful and start slowly but sit down and perform the triangle breathing alone, without visualization for just 10 minutes a day, twice a day for 2 weeks.  Then report back.  It will work.

 

To me, this is reminiscent of the breathing done on Minke De Vos Sexual Energy guided meditation.  

Edited March 22, 2015 by thelerner