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I am referring to the anti muslim conspiracy that always follow these kind of incidents. Alex Jones just feeds massive amounts of paranoid propaganda to his followers. I did see the images of these two men from the news and what occurred.

I think we can agree that statements like this show ralis has never read one single word of anything written by Alex Jones.

 

 

It's becoming more and more true every day, you can be a logical thinking person and still be naive, this song was prophetic

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I think we can agree that statements like this show ralis has never read one single word of anything written by Alex Jones.

 

 

It's becoming more and more true every day, you can be a logical thinking person and still be naive, this song was prophetic

 

I have never read a single word written by Alex Jones? Can you prove it? Absolutely not? In what way am I naive? You don't even know who I am but are able to absolutely divine that I am naive. Go get a life!

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so an american city is ordered to lock down and there is a door to door search in progress.

is this real?

 

That is disturbing given that there are better ways to conduct a police investigation. This proves that the 65 billion/year plus Homeland Security is a waste of money. Where were those guys? Just more right wing excuses for more internal security. I hope everyone remembers that it was Bush who signed the law creating TSA, Homeland Security. Patriot Act and so forth. Those agencies will never be eliminated.

 

Internal security is the age old cry of the oppressor.

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I have never read a single word written by Alex Jones? Can you prove it? Absolutely not? In what way am I naive? You don't even know who I am but are able to absolutely divine that I am naive. Go get a life!

Prove it.....haha. I can't prove it to someone who is ignorant, nor do I need to to someone who isn't.

 

You're naive because you are overly in your analyzing mind and head. Real life isn't always scrutinizing and analyzing like a little nerd in a science lab. Real events are in real time, it's out maneuvering, it's tactics, strategies, manipulation, provoking, one upping.

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Prove it.....haha. I can't prove it to someone who is ignorant, nor do I need to to someone who isn't.

 

You're naive because you are overly in your analyzing mind and head. Life isn't scrutinizing and analyzing like a little nerd in a science lab. Life is in real time, it's out maneuvering, it's tactics, strategies, manipulation, provoking, one upping.

 

Thanks for the personal attacks. Much appreciated!

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Thanks for the personal attacks. Much appreciated!

You asked the question, you wanted a concrete example.

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im4l, do you feel your attack against ralis is useful?

there is some serious shit going on in boston right now.

and what we are not hearing and may never hear is troublesome.

i like the idea of this thread and how alex jones was all over the seals presence and the back packs.

there are tao bums who live in boston, i cannot imagine their stae of mind right now.

personal attacks against forum members doesnt make sense to me.

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What about the suspect apparently having a bomb on him when he was shot? Their uncle didn't seem to question the accusation at all, though one could easily say that he would be in Guantanamo right away if he did.

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there have been numerous conflicting reports. i heard the 2nd suspect ran over his brother in a mercedes suv as he fled and thats what killed him. i have heard he ran away on foot and the brother was killed by police gunfire.

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The number of armed police and ATF is absurd and all to catch 1 guy. How about intelligent strategy to take this guy alive.

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The number of armed police and ATF is absurd and all to catch 1 guy. How about intelligent strategy to take this guy alive.

with the sheer number advantage, they should be able to take him alive. lets see how it plays out.

surely there are non lethal means of subduing him.

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He should be given due process so that all evidence can be revealed and not stuffed away into some police or national archives for decades.

Based on this country's track record against Muslims...fat chance.

ONE man here weighs just 77 pounds. Another, 98. Last thing I knew, I weighed 132, but that was a month ago.

 

I’ve been on a hunger strike since Feb. 10 and have lost well over 30 pounds. I will not eat until they restore my dignity.

 

I’ve been detained at Guantánamo for 11 years and three months. I have never been charged with any crime. I have never received a trial.

 

I could have been home years ago — no one seriously thinks I am a threat — but still I am here. Years ago the military said I was a “guard” for Osama bin Laden, but this was nonsense, like something out of the American movies I used to watch. They don’t even seem to believe it anymore. But they don’t seem to care how long I sit here, either.

 

Last month, on March 15, I was sick in the prison hospital and refused to be fed. A team from the E.R.F. (Extreme Reaction Force), a squad of eight military police officers in riot gear, burst in. They tied my hands and feet to the bed. They forcibly inserted an IV into my hand. I spent 26 hours in this state, tied to the bed. During this time I was not permitted to go to the toilet. They inserted a catheter, which was painful, degrading and unnecessary. I was not even permitted to pray.

 

I will never forget the first time they passed the feeding tube up my nose. I can’t describe how painful it is to be force-fed this way. As it was thrust in, it made me feel like throwing up. I wanted to vomit, but I couldn’t. There was agony in my chest, throat and stomach. I had never experienced such pain before. I would not wish this cruel punishment upon anyone.

 

I am still being force-fed. Two times a day they tie me to a chair in my cell. My arms, legs and head are strapped down. I never know when they will come. Sometimes they come during the night, as late as 11 p.m., when I’m sleeping.

 

There are so many of us on hunger strike now that there aren’t enough qualified medical staff members to carry out the force-feedings; nothing is happening at regular intervals. They are feeding people around the clock just to keep up.

 

During one force-feeding the nurse pushed the tube about 18 inches into my stomach, hurting me more than usual, because she was doing things so hastily. I called the interpreter to ask the doctor if the procedure was being done correctly or not.

 

It was so painful that I begged them to stop feeding me. The nurse refused to stop feeding me. As they were finishing, some of the “food” spilled on my clothes. I asked them to change my clothes, but the guard refused to allow me to hold on to this last shred of my dignity.

 

When they come to force me into the chair, if I refuse to be tied up, they call the E.R.F. team. So I have a choice. Either I can exercise my right to protest my detention, and be beaten up, or I can submit to painful force-feeding.

The only reason I am still here is that President Obama refuses to send any detainees back to Yemen. This makes no sense. I am a human being, not a passport, and I deserve to be treated like one.

 

I do not want to die here, but until President Obama and Yemen’s president do something, that is what I risk every day.

 

Where is my government? I will submit to any “security measures” they want in order to go home, even though they are totally unnecessary.

 

I will agree to whatever it takes in order to be free. I am now 35. All I want is to see my family again and to start a family of my own.

 

The situation is desperate now. All of the detainees here are suffering deeply. At least 40 people here are on a hunger strike. People are fainting with exhaustion every day. I have vomited blood.

 

And there is no end in sight to our imprisonment. Denying ourselves food and risking death every day is the choice we have made.

 

I just hope that because of the pain we are suffering, the eyes of the world will once again look to Guantánamo before it is too late.

 

Samir Naji al Hasan Moqbel, a prisoner at Guantánamo Bay since 2002, told this story, through an Arabic interpreter, to his lawyers at the legal charity Reprieve in an unclassified telephone call.

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There is talk about not reading to the suspect his Miranda Rights and therefor be charged as an enemy combatant. Will this be a test case to set a legal precedent for future U.S. citizens to be classified as enemy combatants? Indefinite detention without being charged? Remember the NDAA and the language contained for indefinite detention of U.S. citizens.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/19/lindsey-graham-reading-miranda-rights-to-bombing-suspect-a-bad-idea/

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The FBI has routinely set up Muslims in the U.S. to create false flag terrorism -- just as COINTELPRO created "fake" leftist activist groups like the SLA and infiltrated other groups creating fake fights and misdirection, etc.

 

Even http://democracynow.org has covered these FBI fake false flag operations of setting up Muslims - especially black Muslims - but basically any desperate down and out scene that can easily be preyed upon by official government contact through informants, etc.

 

For example the RNC in St. Paul - some "leftist" activist was arrested and turned into an informant down south - and so he was a so-called leftist guru leader but actually FBI and then he convinced a couple young newbie activists to go with him from Texas to St. Paul MN and then he really twisted their arms to get them to make a molotov cocktail - the poor kids didn't want to but he convinced them there was no alternative and then BANG! Anarchist terrorists all over the news and huge military state crackdown with the public fascist Nazis cheering on the military state escalation that included "pre-arrests."

 

I had a friend get his house raided and everyone "pre-arrested" because the house had independent media journalists staying there - waiting to cover the RNC protests, etc.

 

I actually biked out of town that weekend and the cops actually harrassed me in Minneapolis - when I biked past the police station - it was like the ID of the state was out in full force -- just straight up the hidden iron fist - the velvet glove had been taken off. Even "liberal" Minnesota is just a genocidal thug state as it was founded by having a "bounty" on Dakota Indians after putting them in a concentration camp after a forced march after starving them to death so they were forced to fight for their lives, etc.

 

Basically the same scenario for the 21st century instead of the 1860s.

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