Mo Pai Nonsense

[MERCELESS ONE]

 

A system that actually does something.

what does it do? because you dont seem to know anything!

[MERCELESS ONE]

Don't care, not interested in what you are selling.

 

im not like you i dont sell knowledge!

[Thunder_Gooch]

My common sense is tingling, it tells me not to listen to people who hang out in a mo pai forum discussing levels not related to mo pai, who claim to have figured out how to fuse yin and yang chi.

 

 

 

 

 

oh ok i get it! you have learned alot of crap and been tricked and dont know who to trust, and anyone who seems to know anything thats not one of the ppl thats credited to be a "master" that you know of, you think my trick you again. just so were clear, thats cool! and if you could define ascended master

[Thunder_Gooch]

I meant I am not interested in any idea, or opinion, or teaching you have to offer me, find someone else who is interested.

 

I am 100% non profit

 

 

im not like you i dont sell knowledge!

[Thunder_Gooch]

Appearances can be deceiving

 

 

 

what does it do? because you dont seem to know anything!

Edited May 3, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[MERCELESS ONE]

I meant I am not interested in any idea, or opinion, or teaching you have to offer me, find someone else who is interested.

 

I am 100% non profit

 

 

 

so wait lemme get this straight you have a mo pai non profit organization? lmao really?

[Thunder_Gooch]

I ran neigongforum.com, which will be closed when the hosting runs out, because I was unable to find others who cared enough to justify running it.

 

I did not give out mo pai instruction, but instead quoted from other teachers methods to correctly meditate to fill the lower dan tien.

 

I myself do not give instruction in my own words, I only use those of respected teachers.

 

 

 

 

so wait lemme get this straight you have a mo pai non profit organization? lmao really?

Edited May 3, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[MERCELESS ONE]

I ran neigongforum.com, which will be closed when the hosting runs out, because I was unable to find others who cared enough to justify running it.

 

I did not give out mo pai instruction, but instead quoted from other teachers methods to correctly meditate to fill the lower dan tien.

 

I myself do not give instruction in my own words, I only use those of respected teachers.

 

 

 

 

 

LMFAO!!!! RREALLY???? so you can only quote other ppls info, have no knowledge of your own, run a website thats failing, are over 30 with no carrer, claim to be at mo pai lvl 2a which actually didnt exist till westerners got involved, and you wanna rag on rel and i for telling our personal experiences with this information that mean loads more that the crap you quote that dosent even come from personal experiences. LOOKS ARE DECIEVING! NO I SEE YOU JUST FINE! NEVER AGAIN WILL I WASTE MY TIME TALKING TO YOU! YOU ARE A JOKE!

[Thunder_Gooch]

I didn't say I didn't have knowledge, I said I don't teach.

 

I believe there is nothing I can say better than others have already said.

 

I prefer to let them do the teaching.

 

I view myself as a student, and not a teacher.

 

The reason the forum I ran failed is because it filled up with ADHD 12 year old DBZ fans, who think they can fuse yin and yang energy and invent their own systems.

 

Yup, thanks you too, now you go your way, and I'll go mine.

 

I have zero interest in anything you say on any topic.

 

Best of luck on your path my friend, let's not butt heads in the future.

 

 

LMFAO!!!! RREALLY???? so you can only quote other ppls info, have no knowledge of your own, run a website thats failing, are over 30 with no carrer, claim to be at mo pai lvl 2a which actually didnt exist till westerners got involved, and you wanna rag on rel and i for telling our personal experiences with this information that mean loads more that the crap you quote that dosent even come from personal experiences. LOOKS ARE DECIEVING! NO I SEE YOU JUST FINE! NEVER AGAIN WILL I WASTE MY TIME TALKING TO YOU! YOU ARE A JOKE!

Edited May 3, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[MERCELESS ONE]

to everyone here reading this i hope you all can see! he just said it in his own words, that he dosent teach from personal experience! personal experience is the only way to truly know anything! if you havent experienced it, how can you teach it? its not possible! you will only be teaching other ppls theory! and theory will only get you so far. as the saying goes the appl dosent fall far from the tree be carefull of whic trees you pic fruit from! LOOKS CAN BE DECIEVING!!!

[Thunder_Gooch]

That's not what I said.

 

I let better teachers than I say what needs to be said.

 

I am a student, not a teacher.

 

I don't talk about my own experiences in public because they are personal, and not something to be shared in a public forum.

 

 

to everyone here reading this i hope you all can see! he just said it in his own words, that he dosent teach from personal experience! personal experience is the only way to truly know anything! if you havent experienced it, how can you teach it? its not possible! you will only be teaching other ppls theory! and theory will only get you so far. as the saying goes the appl dosent fall far from the tree be carefull of whic trees you pic fruit from! LOOKS CAN BE DECIEVING!!!

[h.uriahr]

It would be a valuable thing if we had a way for people to prove that they've fused yin and yang. I think that it's a reasonable to thing to ask for. In the world of internal alchemy that is no small feat so maybe a posted youtube video. At least for us on the bums. It's not different than someone offering some advice on thermodynamics and maybe their advice sounds very new and strange so then they post their credentials and a short video of why it works.

[h.uriahr]

Not to try and break up this wonderful arguement but my thread topic is solely based on actual techniques.

I would love for us to get back on track so we can continue this.

[MERCELESS ONE]

Not to try and break up this wonderful arguement but my thread topic is solely based on actual techniques.

I would love for us to get back on track so we can continue this.

COOL! back to what i love knowledge,practice and experience

[MERCELESS ONE]

It would be a valuable thing if we had a way for people to prove that they've fused yin and yang. I think that it's a reasonable to thing to ask for. In the world of internal alchemy that is no small feat so maybe a posted youtube video. At least for us on the bums. It's not different than someone offering some advice on thermodynamics and maybe their advice sounds very new and strange so then they post their credentials and a short video of why it works.

the explanation is easy! its the proof thats hard to come by! trust me when i say i wish there was an easy way to tell! the ppl ive met on here that i know that they know how to mix share the same experiences that are not mentioned in any book! thats how i know, how else its anyones guess! unless we can put to gether enough money for a grand master to meet with ppl who claim to have fused yin and yang, like me:) to see if there the real deal! easier said than done!

[Thunder_Gooch]

 

 

 

 

COOL! back to what i love knowledge,practice and experience

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also since ive made it to the mixing point i gotta say most of you guys have no idea what it takes to keep progressing, and how mixing is really and truly taking the first step.

[h.uriahr]

All I have to go off of is unfortunately the Magus of Java. In that book Chang says that once he fused his yin and yang it took alot of sweating and grunting to bring out the energy. I guess I was just hoping for a cool video of one of you burning paper or shattering a brick into pieces or maybe a coconut. Something cool! You get tired of looking for that one awesome demo...

[Thunder_Gooch]

 

 

its the proof thats hard to come by!

[MERCELESS ONE]

i have a question to anyone who thinks that after mixing yin and yang that you should have super powers, why do you think that?

[h.uriahr]

i have a question to anyone who thinks that after mixing yin and yang that you should have super powers, why do you think that?

 

Going off of 2 things.

1. Jim's video. He hadnt reached the mixing stage yet but with enough of a yin field he was able to project which also leads me to believe that he probably couldve done a chop stick demo as well.

2. Again, I hate even using the Magus of Java as a reference because there's no proof of any of the events BUT, John says that he was able to use it after he merged yin and yang. It took alot of effort. Oh and then you have people doing things like vibrating straight through a brick and they dont even do neigong like the mo pai style.

 

I dont know for a fact that anything can be done but I would only think so. Wim Hof can heat himself up, in a manner that baffles scientists.

[h.uriahr]

Again, I have no proof of anything. I'm not mixing any yin and yang as far as I can tell my dantien is still nestled in place.

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well this shows me the depth of knowledge on the subject you have! and why i tell ppl to practice and see for themselves. chang compressed yang in his body for yrs before he mixed yin and yang! i didnt! i had less than a year, but 10 yrs of practice with other systems before mixing yin and yang! and why would i record it that dosent make sense, mixed yin and yang 3yrs ago and didnt have an acct on ttb at the time. and since then ive been learning and advancing with this knowledge as best i could! and also the powers you speak of are of ppl who are at higher levels of energy, and come from schools that teach specific "powers" i learned on my own. from the knowledge ive gained over the yrs from all that i practiced. and actually it all made sense after i understood what mixing actually was!

[h.uriahr]

That's great! Would you care to share any more techniques? I have some started on the first page but it's not very full yet

[SantaRosaGuy]

Again, I have no proof of anything. I'm not mixing any yin and yang as far as I can tell my dantien is still nestled in place.

 

The 'cutting' thing or 'breaking' thing is what worries me. Their description sounds a lot like getting a hernia.

 

My baguazhang teacher talked about baguazhang 'opening the channels'. Hypothetically, if there was something called chi that went out the hands, if it went through the 'channels', to me, that sounds safer than freeing the dantien in some way. (Shouldn't it stay in place?)