Mo Pai Nonsense

[SantaRosaGuy]

another technique, is meditation itself, somthing noone has talked about! and truly this is the most important part of all this!

 

I guess I thought people would already have experience meditating before they tried level 2.

[Thunder_Gooch]

Is the whole "http://mopai.forumotion.com/" crew present and accounted for?

Edited May 3, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[thetaoiseasy]

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Edited March 24, 2014 by thetaoiseasy

[Thunder_Gooch]

I've been working on my belly love magick like these guys.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjd9oq4Am4

 

 

Yin Zhi Ping and Ma Yu, the fathers of Quangzhen: you must work on developing a clean and pure mind. if you meet obstacles in your meditation, you have to do more good deeds.
John Chang, quoting his ancestor: to progress to level four, you must have a yellow aura and be at peace with the universe
Tien Rei Shen: you must be a good person to practice qigong. if you are a bad person, you will just get sicker and sicker as you collect yin qi.
Yan Xin: the foundation of all traditional qigong practice is virtue. treat everyone as your teacher. treat everyone as your family. virtuous actions is the root of all practices. only then can you progress to higher levels.
Chunyi Lin: love is strongest energy in the universe
Ni Hua Ching: A life lived in harmony with the universe leads to divine immortality after many years of sincere cultivation. in the long run of cultivation, no one can escape the moral way
My two teachers: if you don't clean up your mind, all qigong practices are playing with dirty qi -- You are playing in the gutter. Clean up your life, don't avoid your worldly responsibilities, help others, then you earned the right to immortal practice.
Waysun Liao: More important than the quantity of qi is the quality of qi.

The real masters already gave us many clues. No one wants to do listen, however, and they dismiss those commentaries as "lovey-dovey" or "new age." And people can argue the technicalities between schools all they want, but there is a consistent line of thought amongst all schools. If you don't draw the connection for yourself, then that's your own loss. virtue is the foundation of all traditional qigong practices, because it is a skill and something that must be practiced alongside your meditation. some people can achieve in 1 year what takes some people 10 years. why? it has to do with spiritual potential. if you don't look at maximizing your own spiritual potential by becoming a more peaceful and kind person, who is to blame?

Edited May 3, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[thetaoiseasy]

k.

[SantaRosaGuy]

Yin Zhi Ping and Ma Yu, from Quangzhen: you must work on developing a clean and pure mind. if you meet obstacles in your meditation, you have to do more good deeds. ... if you don't look at maximizing your own spiritual potential by becoming a more peaceful and kind person, who is to blame? i just want to offer another less popular perspective, besides yin yan dan tien fusion.

 

I like this. It doesn't really explain how somebody as in Kostas story of the blind master, who was supposedly at level 51 or something, could reach that level if he was just out for revenge, but I like the morality.

 

I would like to see everybody act moral towards the Mo Pai, and the Mo Pai to continue, with some teacher who doesn't charge an insane amount, willing to teach it to us.

[eye_of_the_storm]

I am level 0.

[Wells]

Yin Zhi Ping and Ma Yu, from Quangzhen: you must work on developing a clean and pure mind. if you meet obstacles in your meditation, you have to do more good deeds.

John Chang, quoting his ancestor: to progress to level four, you must have a yellow aura and be at peace with the universe

Tien Rei Shen: you must be a good person to practice and become good at qigong. if you are a bad person, you will just get sicker and sicker as you collect yin qi.

Yan Xin: the foundation of all traditional qigong practice is virtue. treat everyone as your teacher. treat everyone as your family. virtuous actions is the root of all practices. only then can you progress to higher levels.

Chunyi Lin: love is the most powerful energy in the universe

Ni Hua Ching: A life lived in harmony with the universe leads to divine immortality after many years of sincere cultivation. in the long run of cultivation, no one can escape the moral way.

Wu Si Fan: if you don't clean up your mind, all qigong practices are playing with dirty qi -- you are playing in the gutter. Clean up your life, don't avoid your worldly responsibilities, help others, then you earned the right to immortal practice.

Waysun Liao: More important than the quantity of qi is the quality of qi. negative energy attaches to you when your mind is not clean and has receptors for negative energy.

 

Many masters have spoken up.

 

...and Evil Warlord Lim proved them all wrongggggggg!!!

[Wells]

I would like to see everybody act moral towards the Mo Pai, and the Mo Pai to continue, with some teacher who doesn't charge an insane amount, willing to teach it to us.

 

...and I would like to see all the western people simply to understand that they will get the knowledge to complete the levels 3 - 72 of Mo Pai ON A COLD DAY IN HELL!!!

 

Move on, people, leave the Mo Pai school alone and convert to another great system like Wang Liping's system (according to Jim, he's level 35 and therefore on a much higher level as even John Chang!) where you can buy the complete training manual for $23.20 an amazon and where you can go to training seminars with the grandmaster himself and are welcomed as a westerner!!!

[h.uriahr]

...and Evil Warlord Lim proved them all wrongggggggg!!!

 

My belief on this isn't that he was evil. I don't think he was cultivating for anything negative but rather he believed that seeking redemption was the right thing to do. I see a difference. I see a man who felt that the righteous path was to stop a monster.

 

Don't kill me here. This is pure speculation.

[thetaoiseasy]

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Edited March 24, 2014 by thetaoiseasy

[Wells]

My belief on this isn't that he was evil. I don't think he was cultivating for anything negative but rather he believed that seeking redemption was the right thing to do. I see a difference. I see a man who felt that the righteous path was to stop a monster. Don't kill me here. This is pure speculation.

 

That wouldn't change that he was supposedly filled completely with the negative emotions anger, rage & hate when he went straight to level 51 in 10 years!

[h.uriahr]

That wouldn't change that he was supposedly filled completely with the negative emotions anger, rage & hate when he went straight to level 51 in 10 years!

 

Remember that the victors write the history! How would the mo pai side know how he was feeling?! Because of a short story from their side?!

[xor]

...and I would like to see all the western people simply to understand that they will get the knowledge to complete the levels 3 - 72 of Mo Pai ON A COLD DAY IN HELL!!!

 

Move on, people, leave the Mo Pai school alone

[Wells]

what happened to lim? he got his eyes gouged out. his entire band was destroyed. then he died trying to get revenge. is that power to you? it sure didn't last long.

what happened to liao? even he had to pay his debt in the end.

 

He wanted his revenge, he got it!

 

I don't make up "knowledge" (unlike many other people here) therefore I don't claim to know what happened to him when his body was destroyed!

But he was an immortal as his enemy and I personally would guess that their personalities both endured the chi blasts that caused the destruction of their bodies and that they both are still existent today as immortal energy entities!

[Wells]

Remember that the victors write the history! How would the mo pai side know how he was feeling?!

 

Common sense...?

He was blinded, humiliated, stripped of his power and status as a warlord and had to become a beggar! I'm sure he decided to progress in Nei Kung out of his loving heart!

[h.uriahr]

Common sense...?

He was blinded, humiliated, stripped of his power and status as a warlord and had to become a beggar! I'm sure he decided to progress in Nei Kung out of his loving heart!

 

He was beaten badly! Overly beaten! Can you not see how it took courage to train and gain that power?! Not knowing for certain if you could destroy thy monster?!

 

Common sense isn't so common

[Ish]

I'd like for the Indonesian students to confirm if some of these stories in Magus of Java are actually true.

Seems like padding to make the book more sell-able, imo.

[Jetsun]

I'd like for the Indonesian students to confirm if some of these stories in Magus of Java are actually true.

Seems like padding to make the book more sell-able, imo.

All books written on Mo Pai are written for entertainment, so if something is not properly understood the author will make it up, if the story is too boring the author will embellish things and twist half understandings to sell the book, nobody wants to buy a boring book or one which is the same as others. All these authors are the same, they most probably read Carlos Castaneda in the 1970's and want a piece of the action. If you want to put the wellbeing of your soul in what these books tell you then that is up to you, but common sense says it is madness.

[Ish]

All books written on Mo Pai are written for entertainment, so if something is not properly understood the author will make it up, if the story is too boring the author will embellish things and twist half understandings to sell the book, nobody wants to buy a boring book or one which is the same as others. All these authors are the same, they most probably read Carlos Castaneda in the 1970's and want a piece of the action. If you want to put the wellbeing of your soul in what these books tell you then that is up to you, but common sense says it is madness.

 

Agreed. The whole castaneda thing came to my mind as well.

 

People using second hand probably embellished information as a Bible is getting ridiculous. Using this lens to view/judge other cultivation systems is even more ridiculous.

 

You can't call yourself scientific minded if you're getting your info or basing your opinions on such a source material.

[Jetsun]

 

Agreed. The whole castaneda thing came to my mind as well.

 

People using second hand probably embellished information as a Bible is getting ridiculous. Using this lens to view/judge other cultivation systems is even more ridiculous.

 

You can't call yourself scientific minded if you're getting your info or basing your opinions on such a source material.

The whole thing is probably just another ego game to be honest, people want to study it to get superpowers which is an ego inflating driven pursuit, and convince themselves that it is a superior path which is an ego inflating driven belief, then to cap it all off without the proper lineage it is a closed off dead end path so the ego never even gets challenged of its false delusions, so its just another game or trick so the false king can keep wearing its crown.

[puretruth01]

Well the story with Lim is a sad one.

 

He was a bandit a theif.

For this crime his crew was killed and he was blinded not just blinded but his eyes were taken from him. Meaning that he had no hope of his sight being healed....

 

Pai Lok Nen killed his friends and took his eyes thats a bit extreme punishment for theft or attempted theft.

 

He most likely thought he was avenging his friends.

[Sifu ReL]

Lolz pie guy is the only one trolling this thread.

 

IM going dematerilze a brick and video tape it,

 

And at level 4 u only get one unique ability that is for u, dnt think u can light a fire till level 18, u say learn from wang, wang says you penis needs to return, u say it doesn't, so attention wang is wrong pie guy is right.

[Ish]

 

 

IM going dematerilze a brick and video tape it,

 

 

 

Use a good quality camera please =]

[Sifu ReL]

Lolz i'm down with this chatting online thing,

 

Unless a friend sends me a text with a u need to read link i'm not going bother helping ppl ascend. If ur debating if u want to do this because of harm to your body, this is not for you. I now have the power to show ppl so I need not to speak.

 

Besides more pie guy is 2a . And he can give you a really good quote about the theory of level 1, but don't go to the mo pai forum is only has jims and Lins kicked technique and some of wang li ping dragon gate techniques, but don't go their, stay here and let's talk about how no one in the world is level 4 but sifu b