Nocturnal Emission Prevention Techniques

[Maddie]

I can not agree with you here. Saying this you admit that if example somebody has back pain it means that diagnose is the same - kidney def. LOL. And then you as doctor put this diagnose to a man and who knows how it will affect him. May be he will get drunk and kill somebody. I stand for careful study of such subtle things. You missed some points here IMO. Even this you should consider:

 

 

 

This is already not kidneys

 

And

 

 

But you do not bother LOL

 

 

 

lol its ok you don't have to agree with me. Though as far as your observation that Kidney def. can lead to lower back pain that is correct.

 

As far as the comment about someone getting drunk and killing someone, I don't really understand what that is in reference to?

 

As far as the minister-fire of the heart, it still relates to the kidney. Technically there are two heart fires, the emperor fire of the heart itself and the minister (or prime minister fire) of the pericardium. Now the base of the minister fire is ming-men which has its base and origin in the Kidney, specifically the Kidney yang. So ideally yin and yang are supposed to balance each other, but if you have Kidney yin def. then proportionately you will have an excess of yang, often called deficiency fire as its not a true excess, but a proportional excess. Anyways this excess yang then stokes the ming-men fire of the Kidney which then rises to stoke the minister fire of the pericardium which surrounds the heart.

 

This is the whole five element cycle of control. Ideally the Kidney water controls the Heart fire. If you don't have enough Kidney water (yin) your heart fire will blaze up. As the heart houses the shen (spirit) it is responsible for our dreams. So if one is having sexual dreams which lead to emission then on the surface this can be attributed to the heart fire (branch), but on a deeper level this is really the result of there not being enough kidney water to keep the heart fire in balance (root). Hope that makes sense.

 

Btw strictly from a personal experience perspective I don't understand nocturnal emission from the dream point of view, because if I ever have a sexual dream I get too excited and wake up before any release happens (typically I've been disappointed it worked out that way haha)

[RongzomFan]

There are so much Christian-style neuroses.

[Antares]

lol its ok you don't have to agree with me. Though as far as your observation that Kidney def. can lead to lower back pain that is correct.

 

but you have to agree with facts. and do not diagnose if you have only little knowledge on the subject.

i agree that you study and this is good. but when this is about statement on somebody health issue one should be careful. hope it is clear. i am not saying i am saying the truth and i only treat carefully such subtle things.

 

lower back pain can be caused by many diff. factors. that is why there are other factors (symptoms) listed:

 

 

 

Differentiation between yin-deficiency and yang-deficiency: The case with dizziness, tinnitus, lumbago, red tongue and thready, rapid pulse is attributed to deficiency of kidney-yin

 

Did you check a patient with these symptoms? It would be true if there are few of these ones.

 

 

 

This is the whole five element cycle of control. Ideally the Kidney water controls the Heart fire. If you don't have enough Kidney water (yin) your heart fire will blaze up. As the heart houses the shen (spirit) it is responsible for our dreams. So if one is having sexual dreams which lead to emission then on the surface this can be attributed to the heart fire (branch), but on a deeper level this is really the result of there not being enough kidney water to keep the heart fire in balance (root). Hope that makes sense.

 

This might be true but you have to consider other factors which I already mentioned above. First it can be just not proved theory and second psyche might needs to release some excess amount of sperm or to release the tension due to the semen retention for a long time. It depends how often it happens. And there is stated that:

 

 

 

fire mostly involves the heart, while that due to the failure of holding the semen and not associated with dreams suggests the involvement of the kidneys.

 

i understand that it is kidney issue if it happens without sex. dream.

 

 

 

Btw strictly from a personal experience perspective I don't understand nocturnal emission from the dream point of view, because if I ever have a sexual dream I get too excited and wake up before any release happens (typically I've been disappointed it worked out that way haha)

you psyche might need to release the tension. i am not sure it is better to hold it.

[Universal]

Thanks for the Dear Exercise info George. Definitely looks like it could help. Could you recommend a specific book from Stephen Chang where I could continue reading about this?

 

Harmonious Emptiness, do you know where I can find a good Chinese herbalist?

 

Dmattwads, good question. I have no lower back pain, but my upper back seems like it’s coming apart. I definitely think it’s caused by the loss of jing. Knees are fine, but I have always had one somewhat bad knee. Had night sweats last night. They’ve increased since all this started. Prior to this they were rare.

 

Just to clarify, NE has not been normal for me. I’ve gone six months without masturbation/intercourse with no NE more on several occasions. I never had them and now all of the sudden at age 33 they hitting me like the plague.

 

I don’t drink alcohol (sober for almost 9 years). I slip up and look at porn every few months or so. I started to reduce my meat consumption, but I think a lack of protein has lead to weakness in the back muscles so I’m increasing my consumption now. I was working out daily before all this started. Because of my back all I’m doing is one-hour walks every day.

 

I think western science/medicine and eastern science/medicine both have something to offer. As far as ejaculation goes, I prefer the benefits of keeping it in unless I’m in a committed relationship. Then, in moderation perhaps.

 

This feels like I’m being attacked by a succubus. I’m baffled.

 

Dmattwads (again), you’re providing great information in general. Keep it coming my friend. Could you recommend a book where I could learn more about the kidney yin imbalance, etc.? BTW, I always used to wake up too!

[RongzomFan]

Whats wrong with porn and masturbation?

[Maddie]

Whats wrong with porn and masturbation?

who said something was wrong with it?

[Maddie]

Thanks for the Dear Exercise info George. Definitely looks like it could help. Could you recommend a specific book from Stephen Chang where I could continue reading about this?

 

Harmonious Emptiness, do you know where I can find a good Chinese herbalist?

 

Dmattwads, good question. I have no lower back pain, but my upper back seems like it’s coming apart. I definitely think it’s caused by the loss of jing. Knees are fine, but I have always had one somewhat bad knee. Had night sweats last night. They’ve increased since all this started. Prior to this they were rare.

 

Just to clarify, NE has not been normal for me. I’ve gone six months without masturbation/intercourse with no NE more on several occasions. I never had them and now all of the sudden at age 33 they hitting me like the plague.

 

I don’t drink alcohol (sober for almost 9 years). I slip up and look at porn every few months or so. I started to reduce my meat consumption, but I think a lack of protein has lead to weakness in the back muscles so I’m increasing my consumption now. I was working out daily before all this started. Because of my back all I’m doing is one-hour walks every day.

 

I think western science/medicine and eastern science/medicine both have something to offer. As far as ejaculation goes, I prefer the benefits of keeping it in unless I’m in a committed relationship. Then, in moderation perhaps.

 

This feels like I’m being attacked by a succubus. I’m baffled.

 

Dmattwads (again), you’re providing great information in general. Keep it coming my friend. Could you recommend a book where I could learn more about the kidney yin imbalance, etc.? BTW, I always used to wake up too!

 

Here is some basic Kidney Yin def. info. Keep in mind that you don't have to have all the manifestations as it can manifest in various ways.

 

http://agelessherbs.com/tcm/kidney-yin-deficiency/

 

*Hmm as far as a book goes I'm sure any basic TCM book about foundations or diagnosis would have all of that in there. Not sure of one that just focuses on Kidney yin def. alone.

Edited May 3, 2013 by dmattwads

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

To my knowledge, I have never had "autonomous emissions" in my life. Every drop of semen that has ever sprung forth has been due to masturbation, and been completely intentional release.

Can someone explain the nature of nocturnal emissions to me?

Edited May 3, 2013 by Northern Avid Judo Ant

[Maddie]

To my knowledge, I have never had "autonomous emissions" in my life. Every drop of semen that has ever sprung forth has been due to masturbation, and been completely intentional release.

 

Can someone explain the nature of nocturnal emissions to me?

 

Yea doesn't happen to me either, but basically you jizz in your pj's when your sleeping.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

<.< i caught that.
or the sheets if you buck it


My question is more or less the causality of unintentional ejaculation. i cant do it "by accident"

[Maddie]

<.< i caught that.

or the sheets if you buck it

 

 

My question is more or less the causality of unintentional ejaculation. i cant do it "by accident"

 

Then be grateful lol, its indicative of a health problem.

[ChiDragon]

My question is more or less the causality of unintentional ejaculation. i cant do it "by accident"

If it occur three to four times a week, then that is a health problem.
If one time in two to four week, then you are in good health.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

and if it never occours in the course of my life (so far)? if i dont need to be concerned, then im definitely not, but...

I dont know anything about have any experience with this subject, so i had to ask

Edited May 3, 2013 by Northern Avid Judo Ant

[i am]

You really haven't? Interesting.

 

It seems to be more of an adolescent thing when you've got raging hormones and plenty to spare, but for me it's started happening more again in the last few years, too.

 

Probably more commonly (at least in my experience) called a wet dream, which gets to the point a little better. Sometimes you may wake up and not remember that it happened, until you realize you've got a mess, but typically you have a dream about sex. And in your dream you climax...and also in real life. I usually wake up right at the point when the dream causes a real event in reality

 

No "accident" about it. It's one of those powerful dreams that "tricks" your body into thinking it's really happening.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

those dreams have never been about sex except once which i mistook for a premonition when i met the girl from the dream in real life :\

Otherwise, they've been the classic falling dream, and i've had them while awake as well, where my entire body feels like it just suddely hit something solid after falling for a long distance...


SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME whenever it does happen and i spend about 5 minutes trying to figure out which life just died and which consciousness just emerged



For that matter there's a gas station in salem across from a mcdonalds that has "blown up" at least 6 times on me, and my entire omniversal consciousness had to shift realities.

Same one- that's what creeps me out.

First time it happened was very vivid, some guy with a very terrible karmic aura drove past and the death in his eyes creeped me out badly. he drove past the gas station, but i was also vividly aware of "his" expression of vengeful intent and mass destruction.

I experienced multiple times, that gas station exploding and killing "me" and others.

In such a nonchalant manner mostly, except that part where i suddenly SLAM into my body...

Edited May 4, 2013 by Northern Avid Judo Ant