Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted May 17, 2013 what acts can i take to prove that my ideal way of life is valid and i do not owe anyone anything to establish a natural way of life alongside other people who also seek to return to nature?I was born, i didnt buy my life. i owe it to no person but my mother. But to honor my human mother would be to dishonor myself, my ancestors, and my spirit. To honor the Earth would make me a criminal and at odds with 300,000,000 people.To honor the earth, i would eradicate the corporate strongholds embedded into the earth like scarred tumors.Will another human seek retribution and honorable lifeways with me, or am i wasting my breath by breathing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted May 17, 2013 Will another human seek retribution and honorable lifeways with me, or am i wasting my breath by breathing? "If you want to awaken all of humanity, then awaken all of your self." Lao Tzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted May 17, 2013 you describe awakening as dying, cutting all attachments to life and reality and ceasing to exist objectively, while saying in the same breath to be passionate and pursue life.I am awakened. I am ignored. My passion to awaken others flickers, ebbs and flows, but never goes out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted May 18, 2013 you describe awakening as dying, cutting all attachments to life and reality and ceasing to exist objectively, while saying in the same breath to be passionate and pursue life. I am awakened. I am ignored. My passion to awaken others flickers, ebbs and flows, but never goes out! No,...that's surely not what I said. If you believe you have nothing,...and this perceived nothing is driving your life,....then pursue,...with burning passion,...that which makes your objective reality happier. To quote my suggestion in #73 why spend even another minute on this forum? Learn how to be a day trader, be a landlord, get out and sell something,...watch CNBC throughout the day,...go dumpster diving, especially after estate sales, and sell the stuff as unique items on craigslist,...steal out-of-state front licence plates and sell them them on e-bay,...collect urine from pregnant women and sell it as a hair growth tonic,...go out into the woods and be an exotic mushroom supplier,...collect herbs and make herbal cigarettes,.... trap squirrels, dye them purple, and get a government grant to study them. Speaking of nothing,...I've seen nothing in your posts indicating a desire to awaken. You appear to want material things that society sees as somethings,...you want an intimate relationship,...you want respect and recognition. Those who seriously desire to awaken, want one thing,...the truth. Not relative truth,...for all relative truth is a lie. "Relative and absolute, These the two truths are declared to be. The absolute is not within the reach of intellect, For the intellect is grounded in the relative." Shantideva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted May 18, 2013 I Will receive The Truth in my Heart, your hollow words ring not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) I Will receive The Truth in my Heart, your hollow words ring not. That's a tricky subject for most,...because the "heart" they think they receive from, is in the thinking that they are intouch with the Heart. right where it belongs See the animal in his cage that you built Are you sure what side you're on? Better not look him too closely in the eye Are you sure what side of the glass you are on? See the safety of the life you have built Everything where it belongs Feel the hollowness inside of your heart And it's all right where it belongs What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems What if all the world you think know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is that all you want it to be? What if you could look right through the cracks would you find yourself - find yourself afraid to see? What if all the world's inside of your head Just creations of your own? Your devils and your gods all the living and the dead And you're really all alone? You can live in this illusion You can choose to believe You keep looking but you can't find the woods While you're hiding in the trees What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems What if all the world you used to know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is that all you want to be? What if you could look right through the cracks Would you find yourself - find yourself afraid to see? Trent Reznor I'd love having lunch with Trent Reznor. How does he come up with such lyrics? “Inside your heart, it is black, and it’s hollow, and it’s cold. . . . What if this whole crusade is a charade in the name of the holy and the divine. . . Are you brave enough to see . . . or so naive you keep holding on to what you want to believe?” from Trent Reznor 'The Hand that Feeds You.' Those are surely some upsetting lyrics for those in denial and without the courage to stand consciously in the presence of reality. The author Jim Hightower suggested, “The opposite of courage is not cowardice; it is conformity.” That is where most get "heart" from,...conformity. The conformity of perception that they have nothing,...thus they must get it from those they perceive have it. Edited May 18, 2013 by Vmarco 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted May 18, 2013 More to passion and soul than putting down clever words. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted May 18, 2013 Hurt Songwriters: PERRY/AGUILERA/RONSON I hurt myself today,To see if I'd still feel.I focus on the pain,The only thing that's real.The needle tears a hole,The old familiar sting;Try to kill it all away,But I remember everything.What have I become,My sweetest friend?Everyone I know,Goes away in the end.You could have it all,My empire of dirt.I will let you down,I will make you hurt...I wear this crown of shit,Upon my liar's chair,Full of broken thoughts,I cannot repair.Beneath the stains of time,The feelings disappear.You are someone else,I am still right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted May 18, 2013 No, it isnt creepy. Not inherently and not universally perceived as such. YOU respond to it that way.. YOU get creeped by something, you personally. How about owning your own feelings as your own, instead of generalising them as if they were an axiomatic truth. I hope you stop pointing the generalising critical finger at people who dont meet your very personal and individual standards of what you find personally comfortable. thanks i feel its implied that what i said was just my own personal opinion. If people need caveats like "this message is intended to express the personal opinion of the author and in no way expresses the opinions of anyone else" i can do that. I thought that was just understood. When you say it isn't creepy you fall into the same trap. its not not creepy. you just feel that way. in mature conversation people just understand that whats expressed isnt universal its just personal. i was never speaking from a universal point of view, just a relative personal one. lets move on 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted May 19, 2013 Getting in touch with the soul The passion The soul, the spirit knows nothing of negativity, complexities, struggle The spirit is the destination of healing Hi spirit Dance, play, fun, silliness, love, child like wonder of the world. Smiling Randomly sitting by a tree at midnight Learning to breakdance, learning capoeria, poems, stories, music 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites