PUA and Spirituality

[Mikeb85]

Part of me finds it difficult to wrap my head around the idea of being able to gel with a girl whos not into this stuff. I guess thats a nonsense belief. I keep thinking what about her energy, am I going to drain myself with sex (I am getting pretty powerful) I think thinking what if I get annoyed listening to materialistic conversations or not allowing me to be honest.. I guess here is nonsense to eliminate...challenge ahead

 

Sometimes it's good to be grounded in the more worldly way of life. Often times one uses spiritual seeking as a sort of escape from the world, rather than a way of life.

 

Of course, overly-materialistic women can be annoying, but finding one who is decently grounded and fun isn't too hard, and in my experience everyone has a spiritual side to them.

[Mikeb85]

Good Looking men are obviously very much appreciated by women who like good looking men, though.

 

 

I think this is undeniable, to be frank.

 

Some people, men and women, are very shallow. But I find they're the minority.

 

Obviously though, some things associated with good looks like health, weight, grooming, dressing, etc... - are important, as they say something about your hygiene, intelligence, and ability to procreate - but anyone can do these sufficiently well (though not everyone does).

 

You only need to step outside to see very good looking women with average to ugly men, and good looking men with average to ugly women...

[三江源]

Sometimes it's good to be grounded in the more worldly way of life. Often times one uses spiritual seeking as a sort of escape from the world, rather than a way of life.

 

Of course, overly-materialistic women can be annoying, but finding one who is decently grounded and fun isn't too hard, and in my experience everyone has a spiritual side to them.

Oh I agree, overly materialistic men are very annoying, finding one who isnt that way is very hard and so many of them just deride spirituality and turn on the tv to watch football and crack open a beer.

[三江源]

Some people, men and women, are very shallow. But I find they're the minority.

 

Obviously though, some things associated with good looks like health, weight, grooming, dressing, etc... - are important, as they say something about your hygiene, intelligence, and ability to procreate - but anyone can do these sufficiently well (though not everyone does).

 

You only need to step outside to see very good looking women with average to ugly men, and good looking men with average to ugly women...

 

There's something about a very good looking man that gives terrific pleasure to the heart , just like a rose bush or a matisse painting. It gives pleasure to all kinds of places, it depends on the aesthetic responsiveness of the person involved. People enjoy a well toned ass and muscular arms on a man, even if he has a face a bit like a potato. I love peonies and lilac bushes also, but then I do love flowers.

One of things that is most attractive about a person is their smile.

[Apech]

There's something about a very good looking man that gives terrific pleasure to the heart , just like a rose bush or a matisse painting. It gives pleasure to all kinds of places, it depends on the aesthetic responsiveness of the person involved. People enjoy a well toned ass and muscular arms on a man, even if he has a face a bit like a potato. I love peonies and lilac bushes also, but then I do love flowers.

One of things that is most attractive about a person is their smile.

 

 

You did say peonies didn't you.

[RongzomFan]

People are with people in their same league.

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[skydog]

No, it really doesn't.

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[RongzomFan]

I guess I could fit the category of good looking

 

I figured that since you have been fucking hot women.

[skydog]

I figured that since you have been fucking hot women.

 

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[RongzomFan]

yeah we all gotta do barbell squats, dips, pushups, pullups, military press. Western diets are so calorie laden.

[三江源]

yeah we all gotta do barbell squats, dips, pushups, pullups, military press. Western diets are so calorie laden.

Right on. Working out is a good way to draw the attention of hot women.

[skydog]

yeah we all gotta do barbell squats, dips, pushups, pullups, military press. Western diets are so calorie laden.

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[三江源]

I figured that since you have been fucking hot women.

Sometimes when people say stuff like this it sounds sorta vicarious satisfaction - y, doesnt it. Or is that just me.

[RongzomFan]

Right on. Working out is a good way to draw the attention of hot women.

 

People are with people in their same league.

[skydog]

People are with people in their same league.

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[RongzomFan]

Same thing is true with guys but an ugly guy who women consider alpha or sexy in terms of personality pull way more than a good looking guy whos consider a nerd

 

yeah being an asshole ("alpha") is a plus.

[skydog]

yeah being an asshole ("alpha") is a plus.

 

lol

 

one can look at it that way

 

but imo only insecure girls are attracted or will stay around guys that treat them like garbage.

 

Its more strong but kind...positive dominant...thats why spirituality and pick up sort of mix quite well.

[RongzomFan]

Its more strong but kind...positive dominant...thats why spirituality and pick up sort of mix quite well.

 

yeah I know what you are saying. I agree with you. Maybe not the spirituality part. I don't think girls dig Madhyamaka, even though all the Indian masters such as Atisa and Kamalashila held it to be the definitive sutric teaching.

[skydog]

yep interesting thread...

Edited May 21, 2013 by sinansencer

[skydog]

yeah I know what you are saying. I agree with you. Maybe not the spirituality part. I don't think girls dig Madhyamaka, even though all the Indian masters such as Atisa and Kamalashila held it to be the definitive sutric teaching.

 

Yeh but when it comes down to it nearly all forms of so called "dominance" are negative, unless they are coming from a win-win mindset of love...Trying to dominate another or trying to be alpha is really a form of negativity and insecurity coming from fear. So being happy/spiritual etc is really the main solution like 80%...of course...then you cant go getting too out of tune with the world and airy fairy..

[4bsolute]

PUA means Pick Up Artist

 

i was listening to a PUA guru today and he said something very interesting

 

he said

 

"In fact, attracting women is one of the actual, practical uses to all that Zen stuff you may have heard-- you know, stuff like, “avoid judgment, empty the mind, see the ocean in a drop of rain, be at one with the universe, see beauty in a pile of trash,” and so forth."

 

what do you think about this ? he didnt explain it much ?

 

Well, when you are spiritualy realized, there really is more important stuff than PUA. What a question. I mean, come on. Spirit realms vs Sex... seriously?

 

I'm honest with you, in my early 20s I wished for the perfect time when I got 25. To be super attractive and get laid all the time. I forgot about it and was surprised when I hit 26 how many women had a crush on me. But that came from my natural development. And then it was literally too much for me.

 

Deeper meditations make it happen that you understand Sex, that you quickly will understand your life force, if you want or not, but you Will be forced to understand it sooner or later and here ends the story of having Sex for fun, if you want to get something done in spirituality.

 

By now, one year later, Sex got so uninteresting because I really had it all... lucky me I mean, what's better than that? That's natural learning without having to re-program yourself or learn extra discipline.

 

Tip: Have sex as much as you want. Enjoy life in that way, to the fullest. And then you naturally drop it, because you understand that it is all the same. Over and over again. And then you get automatically mature and see Sex as something precious, as something of value, to give birth. Done.

 

PS: Dont tell me you want to make PUA because of PUA itself and dont care for Sex, rather care for a score...

Edited May 21, 2013 by 4bsolute

[RongzomFan]

I know what you are saying sinansencer. I accidently almost picked up a good looking girl by explaining some home theater stuff at a store. This was merely an honest conversation.

 

Then when I was on the way out, she came up to me and started talking to me again.

 

I think the biggest thing, is that she knew I was **NOT** trying to hit on her.

Edited May 21, 2013 by alwayson

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[Immortal4life]

Thinking you need to have good looks, or using looks to attract women, is a terrible mindset for a guy to have. I think you should take pride in yourself, be healthy, train, get your blood pumping, chi pumping, and testosterone and endorphins flowing, but you should be doing it for yourself.

 

Did the caveman even know what he looked like? No. He got the desired females based on his dominance, social leadership, and being a gangster boss.

 

If you believe your personality, value, and attractiveness, is based on your looks, you will have issues and run into problems. What happens when your looks go?

 

Tyler talks about the looks issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apEoEbyIEO8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjIfjzKKP4

 

Tyler on money-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_zG3GUV7_c

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0Uz6xvWUU

Edited May 23, 2013 by Immortal4life