PUA and Spirituality

[RongzomFan]

I think women appreciate honest conversation. Which is the exact opposite of PUA.

[Immortal4life]

Yeh man I hear you

 

Also just throwing out random comments here.

 

When I was new to looking at this sort of stuff there were all these techniques on how to pretend your not interested etc..

 

Not really my kind of thing..

 

So I looked at more direct honest kind of stuff, and the kind of results that I had were ridiculous...however the results were more for girls in nightclubs when drunk and in terms of normal life didnt really do much until a lot later where me being so honest etc was just very normal..

 

But I dont really want to spend my time at nightclubs or get drunk or pick up in that way...so yeh its a little different now

 

Sounds like limiting beliefs to me.

 

Even if you go totally direct and state your attraction and intentions to her immediately, I think it's still a good idea to at some point in the interaction show that you can walk away, show that while you are interested in her you don't need her. You don't need to have her to be happy with your life and secure in yourself.

 

I also think it's a false categorization to label some girls as "drunk club sluts" and others as "normal". Some girls in clubs who like to party will be hard to crack, but some girl in a park reading a book, or off the internet, or wherever, who seems so sweet and wholesome is actually a total bad girl deep down and is totally dtf.

 

I think what happens might be that guys get a specific method, that works for them, and it's situational, like they have great ways of opening girls in bars, but then they can't adapt that skill to say, the street outside the nightclub, or to a girl at the grocery store, or the park during the day. I know myself, that the best routine, that can make so many girls get turned on, can become a limitation and prevent you from being able to go natural and freestyle.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Immortal4life

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[Immortal4life]

I think women appreciate honest conversation. Which is the exact opposite of PUA.

Not true, many PUAs teach men how to be totally honest, to open up, and communicate with people clearly, where before they would shut themselves off, not want to talk about their deeper thoughts, etc. You have to develop comfort, and deep rapport. A huge part of PUA is learning to have open, honest, 2 way communication, and connect to people.

 

Edited May 21, 2013 by Immortal4life

[RongzomFan]

Well I don't know about deeper thoughts or deep rapport. My example above was about some pretty superficial home theater stuff.

 

My deeper thoughts would turn off 99.9% of women, as I only really care about Buddhadharma.

[skydog]

Well I don't know about deeper thoughts or deep rapport. My example above was about some pretty superficial home theater stuff.

 

My deeper thoughts would turn off 99.9% of women, as I only really care about Buddhadharma.

 

Yeh..thats how Im feeling these days...Im in bliss doing my qigong why do I care about some meaningless rubbish, but I guess theres some part of me that needs to be more in tune with the world, having fun, being balanced , socially calibrated at certain times with certain people etc etc

[Immortal4life]

Well I don't know about deeper thoughts or deep rapport. My example above was about some pretty superficial home theater stuff.

 

My deeper thoughts would turn off 99.9% of women, as I only really care about Buddhadharma.

If they like you they want to hear it. But if you think it will turn them off, hey you're the expert on you, so it probably will then. But if you think it's awesome, hey you should know, so who are they to argue that it's not awesome? You also have other aspects to your life, what you do with your day, your background, other interests, etc.

[RongzomFan]

Yes you can keep conversations superficial, yet still coming from an honest place.

 

The biggest thing is that women do not like being hit on by uggos.

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[Immortal4life]

Yeh..thats how Im feeling these days...Im in bliss doing my qigong why do I care about some meaningless rubbish, but I guess theres some part of me that needs to be more in tune with the world, having fun, being balanced , socially calibrated at certain times with certain people etc etc

Where do you practice? I have actually approached women at the park on a few occasions, right before, right after(even if I'm covered in sweat), or even interrupted myself while practicing and training, like if their dog came over to me or something.

 

I find when I build up so much strength, Chi, vitality, and testosterone, I need to socialize, go place, do activities, meet people, in order to have an outlet for all that energy. It would be horrible to train for hours, and then sit at home watching tv or reading the internet, with all that energy.

[Immortal4life]

but its just my opinion

 

my daily epiphanies me finding out i channel spirits the whole night, can read peoples futures/give people orgasms at a distance, start doing hard qigong, heal people and myself through shaking and dance, etc

 

I am pretty sure most people find this really weird even though I find it interesting lol

I'm pretty sure most women find that shit completely fascinating. Not all, but a lot.

 

If you really can do all that stuff, and show it, you must be a big pimp already. The next girl you talk to, you should read her future.

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[RongzomFan]

Being hit on, is the biggest turn off.

[Ish]

Being hit on, is the biggest turn off.

 

Not if the guy/girl is hot

[Immortal4life]

Being hit on, is the biggest turn off.

I disagree, being hit on can be one of the biggest turn ons for a girl, and at the least a nice ego validation.

 

Being hit on poorly, is the biggest turn off.

[skydog]

Being hit on, is the biggest turn off.

 

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[Immortal4life]

Gold here-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTvMej_w6Kg

[RongzomFan]

For women, being hit on is the biggest turn off.

[Immortal4life]

For women, being hit on is the biggest turn off.

No, the biggest turn on, when it comes from a place of value and confidence.

 

Turn off, when it comes from a place of neediness and like you are trying to get something from her, like you are trying desperately to get her validation, when you feel like you need to get her and desperately want her to like you.

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer

[RongzomFan]

Lol I used to go up to women in nightclubs drunk or sober and make out in ten seconds- 2 minutes etc, most of the time it wouldnt lead anywhere because it looked like I thought she was just a hoe but sometimes I gelled with her or tried very hard to make it look like i really liked her personality (hahaha sorry)

 

I want to grow up to be you. Even though I'm probably older than you.

[Immortal4life]

In field footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5nXuRSx_R4

 

[RongzomFan]

PUA is some creepy shit.

[Immortal4life]

Sure there can be a case made that going out to meet women is a little creepy, sure....but you know what is more creepy? Not having women in your life, and not knowing how to properly approach and date women!

[skydog]

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Edited May 22, 2013 by sinansencer