nei kung

[Faceless_One]

Hey guys, ive just recently been exposed to Daoist culture and philosophy (if you want to call it that) and ive taken a considerable interest in Nei Kung and Tai Chi. I cant afford to join a Tai Chi class around me and I have almost no idea what Nei Kung is aside from it being internal alchemy, my question is where and how do I start? What is Nei Kung? How do I begin to practice it, what are good sources for it and does anyone have any ideas on how or where I can practice either Tai Chi or Nei Kung for free? keep in mind im a total beginner and know very little on either subject. Can anyone instruct me on how to cultivate Nei Kung?

[Wells]

Hey buddy,

 

I recommend to you to read the following thread (see link) where I packed in much information about Mind Light Nei Kung.

It will give you all the base informations about what Nei Kung is!

http://thetaobums.com/topic/25346-strong-energy-cultivation/

[Faceless_One]

Thank you im excited to get into this. Im not sure where to begin but hopefully I can find something. Are there any masters you would reccomend I train under? As of right now I live in Virginia

[voidisyinyang]

Hey guys, ive just recently been exposed to Daoist culture and philosophy (if you want to call it that) and ive taken a considerable interest in Nei Kung and Tai Chi. I cant afford to join a Tai Chi class around me and I have almost no idea what Nei Kung is aside from it being internal alchemy, my question is where and how do I start? What is Nei Kung? How do I begin to practice it, what are good sources for it and does anyone have any ideas on how or where I can practice either Tai Chi or Nei Kung for free? keep in mind im a total beginner and know very little on either subject. Can anyone instruct me on how to cultivate Nei Kung?

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/34350503/Lu-K-Uan-Yu-Taoist-Yoga-Alchemy-and-Immortality

 

This is a free book teaching internal alchemy.

 

Qigong and Neigong are interchangable terms depending on the teacher --

 

So yeah there's tons of free practices you can find on youtube -- http://springforestqigong.com has youtube practice videos.

[Wells]

Thank you im excited to get into this. Im not sure where to begin but hopefully I can find something. Are there any masters you would reccomend I train under? As of right now I live in Virginia

 

I would recommend to you to learn Master Gary J. Clyman's Mind Light Nei Kung system.

Gary's website is http://chikung.com

 

To learn about the theory of Gary's Chi & Nei Kung system, you can simply download the first chapter of his "Nei Kung Bible" and his complete "Chi Kung Bible" for free as .pdf files:

http://www.chikung.com/wp-content/files/NKBChapterOne.pdf

http://www.chikung.com/wp-content/files/chikungbible.pdf

 

 

Free Nei Kung exercise videos of Gary on youtube:

 

Condensing Breathing:

 

Upward/downward Mother Meditation:

 

Edited May 22, 2013 by Dorian Black

[Wells]

Quotes that prove that Gary is the real deal when it comes to Internal Nei Kung Power (Jing):

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/28356-here-because-of-gary-clyman/?p=432133

 

ssmith7

Hello Tao Bums World,

I am a young taoist pursuing the way. I have decided to join this forum because of a promise I made to Gary Clyman in exchange for showing me his techniques. He said that if his stuff was for real, then I should post on the Tao bums to tell all those "assholes" it was for real.

Now, I am not Clyman. I was not hypnotized by Clyman. I do not care if anyone takes classes or receives information from Clyman. I am not one of Clyman's students. All that said, the guy is legitimate. You may call him an asshole. I probably would. But, he has powerful internal power. He threw me against a wall with one wave of long power, on the floor, and gave me several punches each with a different feeling in the chest/stomach. These 5 strikes corresponded with the five elements (wood, Earth, water, fire, and metal). He named them before he hit me. I know that what he showed me was real because I had experienced other Tai Chi artists do similar demonstrations of power to me. Clyman's was just more of the internal power.

Regardless of what you think about the man, please remember that the Tao gives rise to both pleasant and unpleasant personalities. I believe Gary Clyman is a good person. His approach and way of speaking may offend some sensibilities, but the guy knows what he is talking about. He is open to demonstrations, he has nothing to lose.

That is my peace. I am happy to be apart of the Tao Bum community.

Peace,

Shawn

 

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There seems to be some confusion over Gary's statement and that's understandable. Gary isnt saying that the Chinese character for "chi" is what's in the characters of tai chi. He's saying that the actual manifestation of chi, the way he describes it, is what is involved in tai chi, or supposed to be anyway.

Gary will happily demonstrate on anyone who wants to doubt his training. His training isnt something to be overlooked or mocked. Hands down his system is the best system I've ever seen or trained in. Keep in mind that his teacher is Waysun Liao who is top notch.
I cant really speak for him. I have an opinion though, if it matters lol.

It's my understanding that when people actually project what they call "chi" that it's a more refined chi substance, jing. You can feel your own chi flow as I can feel my own chi flow but the vibration of my/your chi is on too high a level for me/you to project to me/you, unless it's been condensed through some sort of qigong, meditation, etc. That's Gary's say on it, I may have misquoted him or just completely fabricated that from poor memory but if I recall correctly that's how he sees it.

Personally I agree completely with Clyman. I also think that most qigong masters say what he says but maybe in a different way. Another way to view it (poor example warning) is like a big river or lake or whatever. The water source is great and all but if you build a dam then you can really use the source. Very poor example choice.

 

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5th August 2011, 03:04 PM
Neikung36
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I guess when I see statements like that, it makes me question whether individuals like this truly know what they are talking about. These types of people then go on writing books on subjects as fascinating as Qigong and really don't understand what it is, teaching nonsense to students to make a quick buck.

I was able to get through about a third of the article as I do find it interesting reading. On a similar note, there was also a thread on this forum with Sifu Doucherty talking about Qi as if it was irrelevant.

Just makes me a bit sad to see people make comments of this sort as it truly discredits their expertise.
Of course he knows what hes talking about.His master was waysun liao, you can go and see him, punch him and kick him in the torso to test his iron shirt and ask him to discharge his jing into you.Have fun with your insides bouncing around and collapsing to the floor once he does it.He also has an interesting story to tell you about sifu wong kiew kit if you ask him.Im not going to say anything or go into details, but lets just say Mr clyman is not impressed with his level of expertise.

 

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5th August 2011, 05:59 PM
Neikung36
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Ok let me clear some things up , ive read all of wong kiew kits books and i got bad deviations from his practices back in 2002. They lasted for years but i kept on practicing and practicing because i thought that the bad feelings were the chi clearing things out, not only that but i am aware that there are many others suffering deviations also. I did not insult him i stated that clyman did , but in reality he deserves my insults. He doesnt explain things clearly enough in his books and people have suffered.On to Gary now .I went to see Gary Clyman in person, he is everything he says he is and much more.I weigh 84 kilos(not fat) and punched him and his other top guys as hard as i could, ive trained with pro boxers and i can deliver a punch that will knock any man down.I delivered powerfull(liver and spleen) shots and they didnt tense up.When i punched Gary it felt like my wrist bent and could have snapped(he told me he could have snapped it if he wanted to) Not only that but his fa jing demonstrations were very impressive as was his emotional liposuction, he sent me flying with a light slap and i felt my insides bouncing around.Not only that but he said that he hadnt really hit me yet, I refused to test the next level off power.I have his entire system and he is superior to wong kiew kit by a 1000 lifetimes.That is my opinion and if it gets me kicked off then boo hoo hoo.I dont really care! Gary Clyman knows exactly what he is talking about and his stuff works way better than wongs.There are no insults just facts.GET OVER IT

 

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Peacedog
8/05/2003 10:59pm,
Yeah, I know Gary. He is a very good martial tai chi guy in Chicago. I've played with him a few times and he always wins very easily. He is big on meditation, but he also has the goods. He was orginally trained in martial tai chi, Temple Style I believe, and also knows shia chiao (I know I can't spell).

He is also one of the few practitioners I know who will demonstrate to anyone. He will gladly take anyone's punch to demonstrate the Golden Bell/Iron Shirt stuff. He also has very strong fa jing. Particularly for the non-believers out there if you want proof that this stuff work go to Chicago and ask him to discharge on you. I've never known any non-believer to ask twice.

Equally impressive his students can all also do the Golden Bell stuff. His good students can also discharge.

Hell, he sent me flying into a brick wall with only four fingers and I weighted almost 100kg at the time.

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Peacedog
8/05/2003 11:19pm,
Very funny. Ask him to punch you using the jing. The sensation is quite amazing and depends on the the typle of jing used. You will go flying.

While there are many frauds among the tai chi guys. Gary is one of the few who actually has it.

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Peacedog
8/05/2003 11:56pm,
Yes I've seen Gary do this to a variety of people all of whom had fighting experience. He has done it to me (judo, budotaijitsu, shotokan, boxing and alot of military unarmed combat stuff). I watched him do it to a 5th dan Jeet Kun Do guy who was about 215 lbs and a tad over six feet tall, and an experience boxer in the middle of a match, as well as a few other guys.

To answer the other person, jing is a chinese medical and meditative term that means something like cultivated essense. In fa jing this cultivated essense, which takes years to get apparently, is disharged out of the fighter into the target. It feels like you are getting hit with a brick.

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Peacedog
8/06/2003 11:41pm,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys but I'm about 10 hours ahead out here.

Nick Fury is some local grappling guy in the Chicago area. I've never met him personally but I've seen video of him fighting in tournaments a few times. His techniques look solid.

As for the JKD person you would have to talk to Gary himself. I only met him, the JKD person, over a two day seminar and those were his own words. In any event he was a big solid guy who knew how to move.

Gary has his opinions on the meditative side of the art, but he can back it up on the street. One of the nice things is that he is willing to demonstrate this on anyone who shows up.

I would suggest you call or go visit him in Chicago if you want to see a tai chi guy who has it. He is outspoken, but very friendly. And not in the weird ass cult/I am the master of the universe way that many of the frauds in this form present themselves.

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Peacedog
8/07/2003 2:46am,
Sam,
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the sincerity. Gary is also a very skilled meditator and accupuncturist with about 30 years of experience. I've spent a few days, on a couple of different occaisions, following him around his accupuncture practice and he is very impressive in his treatment of patients. I can't speak to AIDS patients, but based off of his record in treating other people I don't think it is unreasonable that he can help with an immune system dysfunction or health in general.

I got interested in the healing modalities after breaking my back in a skydiving accident about 2 1/2 years ago. After one treatment Gary took me from 50% to about 80 to 85% despite having done all the other rehabilitative/drug thearapies offered by conventional medicine. I have also seen him help people with circulatory and respiratory problems dramatically. As well as treating people who were suffering from mental and psychological problems as well with good results using the emotional liposuction techniqes.

In a world of frauds in the meditative/martial arts communities he is one of the few I have seen who had credibility in person. He is very honest about his abilities and will be the first to tell you if he cannot do something. Addtionally all of his stuff is solidly built off of technique and practice. No mythical nonsense. Everything is you do A and you get B. He is also open about the fact that his ability to do any of this is based off of lots of experimentation, good teachers, and years of spending several hours a day working on all of this. People out there can do some of this stuff, but the amount of effort required to do so is extreme and built over time. His techniques and training timelines closely mirror what I have seen among the few other credible practitioners I have met over the years and correspond to my own experiences which came from outside their systems.

Thanks for the message,

Tom Skarda

 

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http://www.emptyflower.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1899

 

Posted 28 January 2008 - 12:37 AM

To all,

I know Gary Clyman quite well. While his personality sets alot of people off he has some of the best martial tai chi I've ever seen. If you are in Chicago and want to see what real tai chi looks like go see Clyman. I never met anyone half as good while in living in Beijing.

BTW, Waysun Liao is no longer teaching the material he taught to Gary. As often happens as teachers age they find a new focus for their efforts. If you want to get the martial side of tai chi from Waysun's lineage you'll need to see Gary. Gary is very honest about what he is and is not capable of doing and I've never met anyone who doubted his skills who actually met him. Many people do not like Gary because of his personality. Too bad for them. I've often seen Gary repair the damage caused by other less concerned teachers and I've never seen him permanently hurt anyone either.

Out of a handful of teachers I've met who "had the goods" he is one of the most giving and certainly more concerned with his students' well being than most. He is quite intense. That is the reason why he is good at what he does. That said he is neither crazy or dangerous to the people around him. He just despises time wasters and chases them off. That cannot be said of all of the people I have studied with.

We all like to think that our teachers should be paradigms of virtue, have the wisdom of warrior sages and an angelic outward appearance. Reality rarely comes across that way. Several of my teachers completely terrified me and I often wondered if I would survive their training. Gary for example has never beaten me unconscious. The same cannot be said of a female teacher of mine who sits just over five feet tall and weights in at under 100 pounds. Likewise, the closest I ever came to death during training happened while going through a particularly intense series of trials at the hands of an angelic senior citizen that primarily practiced a school whose focus is out of body projection. It always surprises me when others meet these folks and are completely freaked out.

Best of luck with your search for a teacher,
Peacedog

 

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http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67552&page=16

I have met at least a dozen or more of Liaos's students including those who have been practicing for over 30 years. It looks like this to me:

20 years ago or more he was teaching good stuff. I haven't seen any students who have been with him for less than 10-15 years who have in significant skill. Some of the older guys are really good and really nice. I know the training is very different than it used to be, because the older guys told me so.

The newer students seem to be way way off in some fantasy land. The older ones seem to have some base in reality. I don't think Liao actually teaches any Taichi anymore. If he does, just barely. It's all student teaching.

I think anyone with a solid six months of Jiujitsu could take out virtually any of the students who have less than ten years of taichi practice under there belts.

Even the guys who have been with him for over 20 years still say he hasn't given them everything which is very interesting since Liao himself was in training for less than 10.

I have touched hands in a teaching environment with Liao about half a dozen times. He is really really good! And, yes soft like a willow. Truely amazing. Very powerful.

To Liao, from his mouth, as I understood him say it, the purpose of taichi is to purify and return to the Mother, the Dao itself. I believe that is true.

It is also a nice excuse for students who don't want to face reality. They can just pretend that their taichi is good because they are "returning to the Dao." When someone puts them on the ground or into the wall they can respond with "That was really physical," or "Taichi is not a martial art," or any other nonsense that will help them justify the fact that they don't have anything to show for their training. I feel really sad for them. Especially because Liao is so good.

 

 

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Quote: Dorian Black

My friend and Thetaobums-member LittlePie took part in Gary Clyman's „Personal Power Training“ and tested Gary's Jing: Gary touched him slightly on the shoulder and LittlePie went down like "hit by a sledge-hammer". Gary told him that he only used ONE vibration...he could have used HUNDREDS if he wanted to.

 

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thetaobums member rodgerj testimonial:

Lol, howd the Gary Clyman work for ya??

I have seen lots of people diss him and it's understandable. When I first spoke with him I nearly flew out to Chicago to fight him as he called me a looser. But he is actually a nice guy. Everyone has a personality and some are more eccentric then others. If we let our own pride and arrogance get in the way we could miss something valuable.

His training works. When I say it works I am talking about lightning in your arms. You want Jing or power for Martial Arts this will deliver. It seems to be mechanical in that you get just what you put in. I have met him and tested his Fa Jing and he has it for sure. At the time I was 240+ pounds and he made me leave the ground and hit a wall.

One thing to remember is that when he is presenting is Waysun Liao's entire system. This alone for me was a reason to train. I thought.... 'I can spend the next 20 years of my life to get some of this info from Master liao or I can get it all now' This is a wrong attitude but It was a long while ago and I was a bit younger.

To put in short.... you fill the dantien, burn some pathways, open up your channels, vibrate the energy and more. I remember when I first got some effects.... I had been feeling 'heat' and tingling' for ages. Threshold stuff. Then one day while training suddenly my arms felt like I was literally holding power lines. This grew to be everywhere. After, I noticed that when not training if I got emotional it would start im my arms on it's own. If I hit something a freakin lightning bolt would fly down my arm and out of my hand.

The focus in on the dantien. As well as the Chi Kung and Nei Kung there are other meditations like uprooting and sinking jing or Tai Chi connective meditations. It is powerful stuff. I do not do it anymore though because it does not mix with what I do. It is great for Martial arts as it covers Golden Bell etc.... In fact Grandmaster Gene Chicoine and a student of his met him. The student tried his Iron Palm on Master Clyman and just hurt is hand. Grandmaster Ch'ang Tung Sheng punched him in the face while he just laughed (to test his gold bell)

I could go on for ages but I can't really right now. I will answer any questions from PM's. Lastly though I will say that for those that think him charging $3000 for his Nei Kung is outrageous.... think about it.... this is 20 years or knowledge that you can get only two ways. Train 20 years or pay up. I will warn that there is a reason that this knowledge is given over time and not to jump into advanced stuff without a foundation! take time with it.

Before anyone criticizes I would say have the balls to do it to his face. Then come here you will have the right to comment. It's like a crazy man holding a bag of gold coins. You may think he is crazy and be put off by his madness but he still has the bag of gold coins. (I am not saying Gary is crazy BTW! he is a nice guy).

Does anyone know if you can practice the Clyman dvd's and still practice Kunlun? Not back to back of course.

Errr that depends but the short answer is no. The reason for this is mostly because you cannot do MCO and Kunlun. At least, in the beginning you can't. Gary's system is huge, there is a lot in there. There are elements that you can put with Kunlun but it depends how long you have been doing Kunlun. In both of these methods there is an internal alchemy that is taking place. A very different one!

In the Chi Kung of Gary's system you collect and condense energy to create the alchemical agent that is then circulated via the micro and macro orbits. When you get to the Nei Kung then that shit is a whole other level! Certain vibratory meditations are used to accelerate the vibration of the Jing you have created. This kind of stuff would not mix with Kunlun and I would not put them together.

This does not mean you cold not do them both though. You have to wait for one alchemy to finish before you attempt another, and your goal is the deciding factor in what type of method you choose. You find this even within certain schools such as Grand Master Doo Wai's. You cannot train for healing and ging and the same time as your cultivating different energy. Opposites almost....

 

 

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http://thetaobums.com/topic/28273-new/?p=432289
Barracuda1975

Hi Basher!!!

The experience is such that I practiced Tao Kung about 14 years and just in a fortnight after starting Nei Kung my life changed dramatically. I would highly recommend jumping on The Nei Kung bandwagon , in other case you will just waste your time burying your head in a heap of 3rd grade of exported chinese Qigong stuff.

Please.visit www.chikung.com this is the fastest and safest route and your hard earned £££ will be saved at least.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Dorian Black

[chi 2012]

Gary teaches 6 of his Tidal Wave Chikung exercises on Youtube for free. Actually 7 - but you just do the first one time. I dabbled with them for a few months and they are very intense. About 5 weeks ago I decided to do them for 20 minutes twice a day. Since doing this - my "presence" is now inside my body at all times. Basically the stuff that Eckhart Tolle teaches about being in the moment at all times - you can pretty much reach this state by accident if you do Gary's practices.

 

Basically, I think people have dysfunctional habits because they either become bored or they become afraid. With Gary's youtube practices - I have become more centered and even if I get really crappy news - something has changed where it won't bother me anymore.

 

I still practice Spring Forest Qigong tonight at night for health. I'm not sure how good Gary's Youtube practices are for health - I just notice my presence is more inside my body. I'll probably order the Tidal Wave Chikung this week as I have the money.

 

I challenge anybody out there to do Gary's Youtube exercises for 20 minutes twice a day. They are intense as hell - but you'll feel different overall after a couple weeks.

Edited May 22, 2013 by chi 2012

[voidisyinyang]

I would say that the practices are very similar.

 

Chunyi Lin trained doing the 2 hours nonstop horse stance with thighs flat and arms outstretched - everyday -- no moving!

 

That was at Shaolin for three months.

 

So that is way beyond "intense" - at the end of the training his third eye was fully open and then master Yau had Chunyi Lin do long distance healing.

 

So anyway it's a beautiful thing to do the standing exercises and the focus on storing up energy in the lower tan tien.

 

This is what Chunyi Lin told me to do directly when I got my phone healing from him.

 

So yeah at first Chunyi Lin says to do three times as much standing active exercise as sitting passive meditation.

 

So someone asked him if doing walking physical exercise was a good as the standing active exercise and he said standing active exercise was better and they wondered if it was aerobic enough - he said just see when you stand with your knees bent and the blood really starts to pump.

 

haha.

[chi 2012]

Well, I've done 2 hour SFQ standing exercise sessions before - and last year I did 1 hour and 19 minutes straight of moving of yin and yang. I think I recorded it in my journal. SFQ standing active exercises will make you well balanced and clear blockages - but I think it fills the dantien at a much slower rate than Clyman's exercises. Qigong is best mixed with Tai Chi. Clyman wrote that his Chikung is like the equivalent to practicing Temple Style Tai Chi for 4 years I believe.(I might have the numbers wrong). So I notice after practicing his exercises - I am in the present moment at all times.....And no shitty news can make me resort into any kind of dysfunctional behavior. It makes you physically and mentally tougher. For example there's a poster on here who just got suspended - and seems to be suffering from emotional problems and internet addiction. I guarantee that 2 sessions a day of Clyman's Youtube videos would fix this person fast.

 

Drew, As an experiment try Clyman's 6 youtube exercises twice a day for a month. Actually 4 of the exercises are sitting and only the first two are standing.

 

I do 3 sets of Condensing Breathing into the stickman for 10 minutes. The first set for 6 minutes and then the next 2 sets for 2 minutes. After that I just do the remaining 5 exercises for 2 minutes. 4 of them are seated. Try it as an experiment.

[voidisyinyang]

Well, I've done 2 hour SFQ standing exercise sessions before - and last year I did 1 hour and 19 minutes straight of moving of yin and yang. I think I recorded it in my journal. SFQ standing active exercises will make you well balanced and clear blockages - but I think it fills the dantien at a much slower rate than Clyman's exercises. Qigong is best mixed with Tai Chi. Clyman wrote that his Chikung is like the equivalent to practicing Temple Style Tai Chi for 4 years I believe.(I might have the numbers wrong). So I notice after practicing his exercises - I am in the present moment at all times.....And no shitty news can make me resort into any kind of dysfunctional behavior. It makes you physically and mentally tougher. For example there's a poster on here who just got suspended - and seems to be suffering from emotional problems and internet addiction. I guarantee that 2 sessions a day of Clyman's Youtube videos would fix this person fast.

 

Drew, As an experiment try Clyman's 6 youtube exercises twice a day for a month. Actually 4 of the exercises are sitting and only the first two are standing.

 

I do 3 sets of Condensing Breathing into the stickman for 10 minutes. The first set for 6 minutes and then the next 2 sets for 2 minutes. After that I just do the remaining 5 exercises for 2 minutes. 4 of them are seated. Try it as an experiment.

 

 

Well I did watch his vids before and I read his Chi Kung Bible free book -- and my friend did also and said how Chunyi doesn't talk about this flexing of the anus sphincter and flexing the PC muscle. I have read elsewhere how it really is the physical stomach exercises that build up the jing energy.

 

So yeah I agree those are crucial aspects of the training just as the sex doctor Lin emphasizes the anal breathing and Mantak Chia emphasizes the perineum and PC muscles, etc.

 

 

For instance, you would not do Inside Air while you're doing The Micro Cosmic Orbit, but

squeezing the urinary and anal sphincter muscles is a very common detail that is in most of the

techniques.

 

and

 

 

sphincter training helps the student comprehend how to pump Jing

 

and

 

 

Q. How tight do you squeeze your urinary and anal sphincter muscles?

A. Many beginners are actually shocked to discover that this is a physical function.

Squeezing the sphincter muscles at first should be done with one long solid draw as consistently

as possible. As a practitioner becomes more advanced and comfortable with the practice the

sphincter muscles can be pumped without fully letting go.

When contracting the urinary and anal sphincter muscles, many people have the conception that

they only "think" of putting their attention on these muscles. This is wrong; this is not enough.

When I say squeeze the urinary and anal sphincter muscles, that's exactly what I mean. To

contract the urinary sphincter, for men and women both, is like retracting your urethra upon

completion of urination. With this I mean, you actually "suck up" so you don't "wet" your pants.

To contract your anal sphincter muscle, I use the humorous metaphor of having eaten Mexican

food for lunch and riding on a crowded elevator back to work and not wanting to embarrass

yourself and everybody else that is with you. Actually physically squeeze your urinary and anal

sphincter muscles, don't just think about it.

This practice should be done on the inhale only, never on the exhale.

[JingQiShen]

Hey guys, ive just recently been exposed to Daoist culture and philosophy (if you want to call it that) and ive taken a considerable interest in Nei Kung and Tai Chi. I cant afford to join a Tai Chi class around me and I have almost no idea what Nei Kung is aside from it being internal alchemy, my question is where and how do I start? What is Nei Kung? How do I begin to practice it, what are good sources for it and does anyone have any ideas on how or where I can practice either Tai Chi or Nei Kung for free? keep in mind im a total beginner and know very little on either subject. Can anyone instruct me on how to cultivate Nei Kung?

 

when can we post on the other parts of the forum ? so we can talk more on these stuff

[XiaoYaoYou]

Hi Faceless_One,

 

I've personally had a lot of benefit training in Jerry Alan Johnson's system of qi gong (qi gong = nei kung). He is very open with his information which I really appreciate. He has a DVD video that is very good for beginners called Chi Kung: The Healing Workout. You can find it on Amazon, and lots of other places as well.

 

There are many teachers and many different systems. The most important thing is to find a teacher and a system that you resonate with. Our body has strong natural healing abilities. If you find a system you resonate with, healing is sure to happen.

 

Best of luck to you!

[LeirTheFox]

Your doubt was the same as mine: I also wanted to pratice Nei Kung (I had not known it was a synonym for Qi Gong), but there's no teachers in my place, and the town I'm about to move over is way overpriced for me.

 

This topic condensate lots of informations for those who want to start learning alone, so well, don't want to look like a leecher. Here goes my sincerest thank you for bringing up this point

[1TRUECHISEEKER]

Hello all, i too am new to this site.. Ive been hoping to learn and practice as much about developing and using my internal chi energies, or Nei Kung as ive heard its called.. The only problem however is that there are alot of people out in this world who will give false teachings that will get you nowhere.. As much information and help with a newbie like me would be most appreciated.. I would like to get started as soon as possible!! Just need to know the correct way though.. Ive read that meditation is the main way and there are specific techniques and exercises that produce certain results. I would like to mainly learn how to awaken and develop my chi to be stronger. Only allowed practices though please. I dont want to dis-respect anyone by practicing there techniques if im not allowed to. Thanks!!

[Water and Spirit]

Gary Clymans stuff is the real deal. I am qualified to make that statement because I purchased his Tidal Wave chi Kung and Mind Light Nei Kung.

 

It changed my life for the better. I do it everyday. It made me more graceful, think faster, I feel less tired, I feel more effective at work and at home. I feel more powerful. It really helped me to gather chi at Tan Tien and circulate it.

 

Dorian Black knows what he is taklking about.

[Wells]

Gary Clymans stuff is the real deal. I am qualified to make that statement because I purchased his Tidal Wave chi Kung and Mind Light Nei Kung.

 

It changed my life for the better. I do it everyday. It made me more graceful, think faster, I feel less tired, I feel more effective at work and at home. I feel more powerful. It really helped me to gather chi at Tan Tien and circulate it.

 

Dorian Black knows what he is taklking about.

 

Hey buddy,

 

I'm happy that Gary's system works great for you!

[Basher]

Hi Water & Spirit, lots of people on the internet saying Gary's the real deal. Would think most have studied under him directly, or (like you) bought his material & trained hard by themselves. I respect the way he uses his powers to heal those suffering from various ailments, etc. I've read the NKB & found it extremely interesting...

 

But unsure why there are so many others who really dislike the guy. Nobody said that an Instructor has to be a nice guy. But most mention his terse manner. But is he really just telling it like it is, without any pretense ? Or do these techniques eventually affect your personality ? As it seems as if, whenever anybody dares to even mildly question Gary or his Nei Kung School, they're constantly bombared with criticism or insults from one of his students.

 

Surely most people believe that what they're studying is worthwhile, but is there really any need to belittle others who are learning something different ? If the rest of us are all wasting our time, how does that effect you ?

 

Basher (the non-Basher)

[Wells]

As it seems as if, whenever anybody dares to even mildly question Gary or his Nei Kung School, they're constantly bombared with criticism or insults from one of his students.

 

Well, can you point to such a case?

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[Basher]

Well, can you point to such a case?

 

Hi Dorian,

sorry for my delay in responding, I was away on Holiday. But, as it happens, no I can't offer any "proof" as such.

 

I remember reading a few articles a while ago, on other Forums (ie not the Tao Bums), where there were a lot of insults thrown by both sides (Pro/Con Gary). But have to admit that I didn't save or print the articles / threads...so am 100% reliant on my memory of them. But a search on "Gary Clyman" should be enough to see these articles I'm refering to.

 

Also believe there have been a few "lively" threads on TTB's, that have spiralled out of control. But think these have been deleted / binned by the Mods. ???

 

Whatever the truth of it, Gary does seem to invoke Passion in people & seems equally passionate about helping others.

 

Although not really a Taoist viewpoint, I admire anyone who's passionate about the Art they're learning / teaching and those who really respect their Instructors.

 

But it does tend to grate, when somebody says their art / path is the only true one & all others are rubbish... that's all I meant.

I was not, by any means having a go at you, or Gary for that matter.

[TheGhostWhoWalks]

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