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Marblehead Posted June 23, 2013 I like reading posts by practitioners, is the thing. Practicing at what? One would think that after one has practiced a while it would be time to start doing something. But then, there goes my logical mind again. I need to hide that in the closet whenever I am talking with you (and Gentlewind). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Marblehead Posted June 23, 2013 ... oops your' logic' failed you completely on that one.. But only from your personal judgement. Hehehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Marblehead Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) ha, no.. from a logical point of view. Take logic 101 and get back to me marbles,maybe then we can talk. I took it but failed. The instructor said I wasn't allowed to have my own opinion. Edited June 23, 2013 by Marblehead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlewind Posted June 23, 2013 Sadly when people have opinions about subjects like UFO's they are often ridicule based. Having a mature discussion about UFO's and ET's is almost impossible - as this thread is evidence of. I appreciate the effort of those who have posted their opinions without making fun of the subject, refreshing when it happens. Namaste, gentlewind 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 23, 2013 I have tried to be polite but I simply cannot say something in this thread that would indicate that I believe in such things. I will question and I will ask where the proof is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlewind Posted June 23, 2013 I have tried to be polite but I simply cannot say something in this thread that would indicate that I believe in such things. I will question and I will ask where the proof is. This is such a big subject marblehead, their is evidence - go ask your government, you'll be fobbed off though. You'll also experience ridicule. Thats why abductees generally remain very private people. The CH4 documentary shows what were up against. My proof is my own encounters with MILABS, and my implants. Sadly going to the doctor is NOT an option. Meanwhile in America there is a doctor who does remove implants, Dr Roger Leir. Namaste, gentlewind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted June 23, 2013 I need to modify my above post. After "Yep." I should have added: Even if it was an illusion or delusion. The other one is my real self that is - she exists in my mind just like that....so is me. As I am an illusion, it is a reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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voidisyinyang Posted June 23, 2013 O.K. let's be clear. UFO does not meant E.T. alien. Care to share more details about your MILAB implant experience? Did you get the implant out? Any photo of it? For example a lot of the alien abduction stories are based on hypnosis using leading questions. So the hypnosis method for "revealing" alien abduction is not to be relied on for obvious reasons. Either the hypnotist is pushing an agenda or the person under hypnosis is influenced by their own agenda. Basically a person has "missing time" -- they think - and goes to see a hypnotist -- and everyone knows that the reason you go to see a hypnotist about missing time is to reveal your alien abduction experience. haha. Another issue is sleep paralysis. Also minor OBEs get confused for alien abduction. For example a person called into Coasttocoast saying that they felt this heavy being on top of them at night and then they could see themselves on the bed and then suddenly woke up. So I knew that the person had a minor OBE experience - the heavy being "on top of them" was their own spirit witnessing their sleeping body - just before self awareness kicks in. So then when I listened to that show I was in full lotus and then I fell asleep in full lotus and sure enough I suddenly witnessed this heavy being on my bed. Then I suddenly realized I was seeing myself from outside my body and then I got sucked back into my body. So the thing is that if you see a UFO and then you have a dream that little gray aliens are peering over you while in your bed -- does that mean the e.t. aliens were in the UFO? Nope - it means that your subconscious associates UFOs with little gray aliens. The whole Whitney Streiber thing is another issue - he's promoting his story but that's all it is -- his story - and people get into it because it's creepy and people like creepy stuff - like the SciFi channel is all creepy stuff - "disaster porn" as it's called - that's also what the MSM news is. People like to have their lower chakra activated by fear because it is the kidney energy so it also activates their sex energy. but this is a way the energy is stolen from people. So really as Stan Gooch argued - the aliens - the little grays - are literally are subconscious projections from the technological apocalypse further relying on projected energy. Actually Nandor Fodor argued this also. In other words the little grays are literally are cerebellum brain subconsciously projected. This is also why people see e.t. aliens when on DMT - my friend had this experience but it was right after I told him about interdimensional spirits from other planets that were tall -- and so that is what his DMT vision was - only it was interactive, alive, talking to him, etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 23, 2013 I think what he said is you arent allowed to make blind assertions, and you heard that as 'opinion' because they are usually precisely the same thing. But that would have been a double standard as she placed her opinion on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlewind Posted June 23, 2013 Yes UFO doesn't necessarily mean its a craft from another planet - it means Unidentified Flying Object. Lets not forget about USO's - Unidentified Submerged Objects ! My own story involves both off planet beings abducting me as well as MILABS. I also keep clear of hypnotists. It is not just me who is being abducted, my wife is also an abductee. Fortunately we are also paranormal investigators and so use our many yrs of investigative experience to good use. We are both private people who would never entertain(!!!) speaking openly about this on television, and after the UK's CH4 'Confessions Of An Alien Abductee', you'll understand why ! As for photographs of implants, we are not about to release these on the internet ! I have posted a couple of photos of UFO's online and tried doing so here, but I need to reduce the size of the image but don't know how. My memories are returning - but slowly, which is annoying, but I really need to discipline myself and right a detailed account of my experiences; I lack in this discipline department though, lets say its a work in progress. From age 5 or 6 I have been abducted, maybe earlier, but for now I'll stick with 5 or 6. They were fun abductions and happened regularly, I'm dubious about going into detail though because I know that the ridicule crew will jump on them. Lets just say I really enjoyed my experiences which included 'piggy backs' on very tall beings ! Whereas the MILABS are not fun at all ! My wife has woken up with a needlemark in her eyeball, also she has woken up with a black eye; they do target her an awful lot, but we do know why. Again I'm not going to divulge why as when we have done in the past she has really suffered. I have woken up with strange markings and bruises, also needlemarks. Missing time happens regularly. Their is plenty of other evidence to substantiate our MILABS, but again, I am not going to reveal that. We have enough to deal with at the moment without encouraging more unwanted attention. Namaste, gentlewind 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) So it's a kind of catch 22. paranormal investigators. Posted ufo image online somewhere - no link given. Abducted by aliens and MILABS -- has evidence apparently but doesn't want to provide it. This is nice circular logic - a tautological reality!! So being a paranormal investigator and then you start to slowly remember something that happened to you that is paranormal!! Which came first? Chicken or the egg? Scully or Mulder? haha. So a paranormal investigator who does not want to be ridiculed and so keeps the evidence "secret" yet is being secretly victimized by MILABS. I am not allowed to ask questions lest I further the abuse right? Now you say if I watch the alien abduction doc on the UK I will understand better? Sorry but it seems like a cultish mentality. Now -- what isn't a cult these days? A job is a cult! A workplace. A family is a cult!! Sorry maybe I am cynical. haha. I think Western civilization - actually all left-brain dominance is based on circular reasoning. I Am that I am. A tautology. So yes your experience is as real as any modern ideological worldview is real -- be they a political or some hobby or a career or a scientific discipline. You might want to read Slavoj Zizek. The jouissance of a tautological worldview - create a "secret" personal world - it creates a sense of personal power as psychic energy. The modern worldview is the real psychic possession - the alien e.t. invasion is just a means of justifying colonizing outerspace as the next extension of the justification to oppress the "other." World War I -- had to create mass psychological warfare about the Huns to get the U.S. population to support it. Same lies about the Reds to support the U.S. imperial expansion. Alien e.t.s is the same thing - it's about implants being justified to protect people from the "invaders." For example the book Nanotechnology and Homeland Security. The book Nanotechnology and Homeland Security: New Weapons for New Wars byDaniel Ratner and Mark A. Ratner (2003) explains how people will be microchipped and hookedup to satellite systems to be “protected” against terrorist biowarfare attacks. “ A sensor can beused to detect an external threat, but it may also be used to detect blood and apply treatment.” (p.53) So yeah I am just observing -- a person's worldview is not going to be changed through words. What is your take on the ancient aliens? Do you think the aliens genetically engineered modern humans? Again this is a popular view pushed by the CIA, etc. - why? It justifies and assimilates people into accepting this technology. For example the NSA Big Brother Death Star - everyone now accepts it for the most part - why? Because it's necessary to protect us against the terrorists! Now just insert alien e.t.s instead of terrorists and what gets justified? Implants, space weapons, secret military ufo craft that will "save" humanity by colonizing outerspace, etc. Have you seen my Actual Matrix Plan expose? I posted this online in 2001. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_matrix43.htm "If then, we humans are cells in the great cortex of a world organism, would it not require a super-observer (extra-terrestrial) to scan the cultural movements of humanity and recognize them as planetary brain waves?" (p. 449, Cosmic Humanism) Edited June 24, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry maybe I am cynical. haha. Naw. Hehehe. I have been accused of being one of those. (Yep, I stand accused. No shame, no blame.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) .I once had a paranoid delusion that aliens had inserted an antenna into my head and were remote controlling me Edited June 24, 2013 by Songtsan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xor Posted June 24, 2013 If I knew ETs were here, I wouldn't change anything I do. I wouldn't be surprised if humans were reincarnating from other places. I mean I've felt like a visitor to an exotic and crazy place all my life... constant culture shock. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlewind Posted June 24, 2013 If I knew ETs were here, I wouldn't change anything I do. Same here Vaina. I wouldn't be surprised if humans were reincarnating from other places. I mean I've felt like a visitor to an exotic and crazy place all my life... constant culture shock. Another distinct possibility. I have known people say exactly this, and when out and about you do see certain people who look 'different' - they have a particular essence to them which is so different from the normal(!!!) run of the mill humans ! In a recent video I watched the lady being interviewed said she came from another planet. Again the possibilities are endless and wondrous. We haven't scratched the surface yet to what life is about. Excited ? I am. Namaste, gentlewind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlewind Posted June 24, 2013 Pythag, the UFO photo link. http://bufog.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=460 I'll respond to your post later as I have an appointment with my surgeon this afternoon. Namaste, gentlewind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 24, 2013 Excited ? Oh!, I am so thrilled I think I might pee my pants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Marblehead Posted June 24, 2013 “Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.” That's okay. I've been in the gutter before. Not all that bad a place, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Marblehead Posted June 24, 2013 Do you have a guttural accent as a consequence? Actually, it is Georgian. Some call it Deep South. I still speak a little German - that is a very guttual language. And I can swear just as good as most except perhaps the Aussies. I will likely leave this thread alone as it is apparent that I have nothing positive to add. C Y'all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites