Oppression in Istanbul

[Maddie]

http://defnesumanblogs.com/

 

Apparently for about a week now protesters trying to save a city park in Istanbul are being assaulted by the police, yet there is no media coverage of this. Just trying to get the word out.

[zerostao]

freakin' tree-huggin anarchists,,,,

wait, i resemble that remark.

[Marblehead]

Yes, Turkey is having her problems right now. The government is trying to cut back on its spending because it is spending more than it is bring in in revenue (just like my country).

 

It's hard for me to support the people in cases like this.

 

Nobody here in the US is rioting about the One Trillion Dollars my government is about to approve for food stamps and farm subsidies. That would be One Trillion Dollars my government doesn't have. Yeah, my government is over 17 trillion dollars in debt already.

[skydog]

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Edited June 4, 2013 by skydog

[Marblehead]

The sad thing, IMO, regarding the people vs government is that we want our government to have more responsibility for taking care of us. Little do people understand that the more responsibility we give our government the more power we are giving it to control us. This results in loss of freedoms and free will. But we no longer have responsibility - this is good, right? BS!

[Maddie]

Yes, Turkey is having her problems right now. The government is trying to cut back on its spending because it is spending more than it is bring in in revenue (just like my country).

 

It's hard for me to support the people in cases like this.

 

Nobody here in the US is rioting about the One Trillion Dollars my government is about to approve for food stamps and farm subsidies. That would be One Trillion Dollars my government doesn't have. Yeah, my government is over 17 trillion dollars in debt already.

That's of course assuming that the national debt it circumstantial as opposed to deliberate

[Marblehead]

That's of course assuming that the national debt it circumstantial as opposed to deliberate

That would be pretty hard to prove one way or another. There are lots of consipacy theories out there. Hard to know what to believe and what to ignore.

[zerostao]

Edited June 4, 2013 by zerostao

[Marblehead]

By Janet Davison, CBS News, Jun 4, 2013 5:13 AM ET

 

When protesters took to Taksim Square in Istanbul last week, the initial focus of their concern was the plan to cut down 600 trees for a big development project in the one of the few green spaces remaining in the congested, pulsating core of the historic Turkish city.

 

Since then, however, the demonstrations have rapidly escalated, riot police have fired tear gas and water cannons and the unrest is now widely seen as a visible display of pent-up frustration with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

 

To his critics, the leader of the Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) is seen as increasingly authoritarian, and presiding over what many secular-minded Turks fear is a creeping conservative social agenda.

 

 

So yes, what you said is true but it's not all of the story.

 

My objection is that the farm subsidies bill is attached to the food stamp bill. Farm subsidies give money to those who already have enough. Most of that money will go to large corporations and their stock-holders.

 

One way to lessen the need for food stamps in America is to create jobs in America. As it is now the taxpayers lose. If jobs were created everyone would win.

[zerostao]

not many govts anywhere are very "Taoist"

Edited June 4, 2013 by zerostao

[Marblehead]

not many govts anywhere are very "Taoist"

Hehehe. There are a few small ones but they hide from the rest of the world.

[zerostao]

what began as a peaceful enivironmental protest is turning into something nastier becoz of the heavy handed harsh

response from riot police, thus escalating the situation.

in a democracy, and turkey claims to be a democracy, you let the people gather in public peacefully and express their concerns.

the hard line response from their prime mionister is oppressive.