voidisyinyang Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) O.K. today I bought a Tascam DR 05 and just stuck it in the computer, called up qigong master Jim Nance and put him on speaker phone and then started recording our conversation. hahaha. Actually I had mentioned this to him earlier as he had mentioned talking today - or hanging out. Anyway so I am now converting the file from .wav to mp3 so then I can use Audacity to save it as a podcast after I mix it or whatever. I just want to put it on my blog for now -- but am just learning how to do this -- so watching a youtube tutorial. Anyone with tips please chime in!! Anyway so then Jim called me back after he hung up and he was really happy about the conversation and so I said how I had mentioned the idea to my qigong cyber-correspondent in Brazil - longtime since 2000 -- and so he contacted our mutual cyber-correspondent in Spain - and they have also volunteered to possibly set up a website just for podcasts with qigong master Jim Nance. So qigong master Jim Nance said to go for it and the way we did this podcast was that another qigong friend had called me today - and he had all these questions for Jim Nance and so - this friend lives out East but I had met him at the Level 3 Spring forest Qigong class. So anyway I had mentioned that to Jim earlier today and he said sounds great - and so the podcast is me asking Jim all the questions that our friend had asked me to ask Jim about. haha. So Jim says that he wants people to submit any questions they have -- like we did this podcast conversation and then I can ask qigong master Jim Nance the questions again like we did this show. He thought that went real well. But anyway so then Jim let me talk to him for another hour and half! haha. I said - I wish I was recording this - and he said - well you can just write it down afterwards. haha. Actually - trying to remember everything - oh so Jim said how he is working with athletes on initiation - on how when people are maturing and young and how athletics can be a great means for real energy initiation training and so this is something he is working on. Yeah so he will have a website on that in the future but he has been very busy doing healing and teaching, etc. Anyway oh so we were talking about Jim getting access to more movies or t.v. channels as his t.v. only gets a few channels and so I was saying how I used to borrow dvds from the library and how I like movies with lots of music and singing like Indian films and then Jim says how he was in India for three months. So when Jim was in India everywhere he went people kept mobbing him because they thought Jim was this famous cricket player. So the mobs would then buy Jim food and give Jim tickets to movies and get Jim to the front of the line, etc. and I said - wasn't your wife with you? Jim goes - yeah and so his wife says - just tell them you're the cricket player! Jim goes yeah but I don't know anything about cricket so I better not. haha. He said they went all over India and everywhere they thought he was this cricket player. I said - so did you ever find out who the cricket player was? Nope. haha. Anyway so we were talking about he had learned how to do different things with reading the energy -- like he was saying how Chunyi is in Australia right now and Jim would like to experience the energy of the land in Australia - the healing energy from the so many years of the indigenous people of Australia. He says how the information is still in the land from all those years of healing. I said - so do you think plants have emotions? Because how science has done tests like electrical tests on plants and some wonder if they have emotion - and he gave the example of how his dad was in the rodeo and so riding bulls and how there are clowns and acrobats also in the stadium to distract the bull if the rider falls off. But the bull can feel the energy of the person - even the though bull can not see the person who was riding him - the bull can sense the energy and so knows which person it was and the bull still keeps the focus on that person despite all these distractions. So Jim goes yeah if you are walking through the forest the trees know you have been there and can sense your energy. I told a story about how I had dreamt of these trees I grew up with - this huge oaks - I dreamt one had a rainbow aura around it and so I realized that the tree was walking me grow up and then I dreamt this other tree had this huge white bear against it and so I knew the bear was a spiritual symbol of transition and so I went back to that old yard. Sure enough that same tree I had dreamt about had just been cut down. Jim goes - yeah I totally know what you are talking about the trees really do know your energy, etc. Anyway so when he was talking about athletic initation -- I was saying that I switched into music but that when you take music deep enough then it is also an initation - and I said how Jim knows this much better like when he was in Mali. He told me how the music there when he listened to it then he saw all sorts of colors. He said tonight how actually it is really the environment also - how the Dogon people he was with in Mali - they have such a culture of being spiritual and doing the energy training and so you go there and just the enviroment is making the music! Anyway I said that as far as the environment goes it seems like the people you are around is really the most important. I said like for Jim that he actually quit his job so that he could do the qigong training and so it seemed he was then able to train in his own enviroment. I said that was a really serious level of commitment that most people are not going to make. He said - yeah its like you are with people that you love but maybe that are ways to keep the mind flexible. Anyway I am just paraphrasizing and summarizing -- but Jim was saying that with the energy training then what happens is that it completely changes how you experience your past because you understand your past better. Take for example a flashlight - he says that now with his light energy he had learned how to focus the light and also he can make the light flutter and flash. He says that we have all this technology but just by learning to expand our minds we can do so much with the energy and then we can apply that to making the technology better also. haha. So he said like doing the podcast interviews is an example. Well I had kept Jim up past his bedtime and anyway he nicely asked about when we were going to hang out - and so I said well he had his qi-talk in a week and that is also the Free Friday healing day for Jim - so he will be very busy. I remind Jim - yeah and you turn 64 - he goes yeah that Sunday. So I said - well it's like the Beatles song - but not really. I said yeah because you feel even younger now! He goes yeah and I am less afraid to have a beginner's mind - to know the importance of being young. He said that how amazing it is in our culture for how the to have a beginner's mind and then to be able to use that for energy initation training. So I had asked Jim Nance about the website name for his podcasts - I think that is when he had mentioned the Stevie Wonder song - he asked me if I had heard of it: "Stars in the Key of LIfe" - I said I had but did not really remember it. He said there was a movie that went with it also and maybe I could find that. O.K. that must be the song he was talking about as it says "star" and it's part of that album - Songs in the Keys of Life. So actually someone on thetaobums had emailed me saying they had gotten a phone healing from Jim Nance - they emailed me just a couple days ago. So they said they had not really felt anything. I said maybe it was a chronic condition and so it would require a few more healings. Anyway I mentioned this to Jim and he said that he would heal them as a friend of mine and I contacted the person for more details. Obviously that was super nice for Jim to do. But anyway Jim did mention how just recently -- yesterday I think - there was a baby at the Spring Forest Qigong Center who came for a healing - the baby had a cleft palate. Qigong Master Jim Nance said how he could see the palate growing back as the healing took place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4J3P7ID-Aw Edited June 8, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 8, 2013 O.K. I am uploading an mp3 of the podcast to a googlesite so I can embed it as a widget on my blog. The cyber guru had to walk me through - but anyway he will probably want to edit out the noise. haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 8, 2013 https://sites.google.com/site/jimnancepodcasts/jimnancepodcasts You can download the podcast there directly or on my blogpost http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2013/06/songs-in-key-of-spring-forest-qigong.html Enjoy Qigong Master Jim Nance!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 8, 2013 O.K. so the cyber-correspondent qigong friend in Brazil is doing audio editing now to post the podcast on the new website he's created for Jim Nance. I will post the url when I get it..... he's still working on graphics, etc. Yeah so then I discovered this community of nuns doing Spring Forest Qigong support work. http://www.qigongconnection.com/ Very cool that they have their own website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 8, 2013 http://www.jimnanceenergyexperience.org/post/52485529397/talks-with-qi-gong-master-healer-jim-nance-about O.K. here is the NEW website for Jim Nance and new podcast editing.... from DINONISIUS REX in Brazil. haha. He's been corresponding with me since 2001 when I first started blogging on forums.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 9, 2013 O.K. I was talking with qigong master Jim Nance who has his third eye fully open - I talked with him for two hours on Friday night. So if you listen to the podcast I did with him - he says how the best practice is if you use your mind to move the energy and not use your body to move the energy. He says it's best to use your mind since the mind is more flexible and then you are accessing a system of energy channels all at the same time. He says it's kind of like using free weights to train your body instead of a fixed system that just trains one particular part of the body. So yeah when he said to use your mind - I immediately thought of the small universe meditation which Chunyi Lin repeatedly states is the "foundation" of his practice and he does the "small universe" in full lotus yoga position. I asked Chunyi Lin if he had created a yang spirit and he said that other people had told him they saw his physical body outside when he was meditating inside his house in China. Also as I've stated Chunyi Lin reported he had taken the small universe meditation to such a deep level and then he quoted the phrase used in Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality to indicate the stage right before the yang spirit "makes the breakthrough" outside the body. Anyway when I talk about how impure thoughts cause the yin spirit energy at the "cavity of prenatal vitality" at the pineal gland to then create postnatal generative fluid which then flows down the marrow -- I am not only quoting the book Taoist YOga - I am speaking from direct experience. I can directly experience this happen inside myself - I can feel the pineal gland and I can feel it being engaged to create postnatal generative fluid whenever impure thoughts are occurring and then I can "flex" my pineal gland to then stop the thoughts - and these thoughts are produced from external sources. So obviously that is NOT GOOD ENOUGH -- the whole point I have been making is that the yin spirit energy has to be focused in the lower tan tien to create the alchemical pill. So the quotes from Taoist Yoga clearly establish this -- the method of Chapter One is to "still the heart" to then cause the spirit fire energy to go below the water. But that is ONLY for someone who has a pure celibate mind with full water jing energy. Otherwise then the water energy has to be sublimated up through the small universe MCO practice. That is the MAIN focus of the Taoist Yoga book - that mind yoga does not work on its own because it's more difficult to lower the fire then it is to raise the water. So I think this is what you are also referring to - but maybe you mean to use more standing active exercise. Like qigong master Jim Nance said to me on Friday - if someone has a kidney energy issue then it is better for them to do the standing active exercise. The "moving of yin and yang" exercise that Chunyi Lin teaches is just the MCO exercise done with the hands. So the left hand is the dragon vitality energy channel - the yin chi energy - as detailed in the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality." I think it's chapter 10 -- where the mudra is taught of the dragon and tiger channels. So the right hand is the Solar chi tiger channel. So the "moving of yin and yang exercise" starts out with the right hand tiger channel of the yang chi - holding it in front of the heart. The left hand dragon yin chi channel is held in front of the lower tan tien. You hold them there in horse stance and then that activates those channels and then you began circulating them as the small universe MCO exercise - only standing up. So that is what I mean by providing specific detailed information. Now it's your turn. haha. You told me about your experience in a private message - your experience that I put you in contact with - the energy transmission you received. So maybe you should start with that and then why not share the specific exercise you advocate. But qigong master Jim Nance repeatedly states in his qi-talks that qigong master Chunyi Lin says we need to keep "purifying" our energy. Chunyi Lin said directly -- in 2000 -- that in order to build up the jing energy there has to be no sexual thoughts. He said that only once!! That is the only time I have heard him refer to jing energy. Now they just say "kidney energy" -- but the thing is that Chunyi Lin is now more "Westernized" as he calls it. haha. So obviously Chunyi Lin is not going to require his students to have no sexual thoughts because that is too strict - but he does state that we need to keep purifying our energy. So the Sun and Moon meditation of the Level 3 of Spring Forest Qigong is the SAME as the focus of Chapter Six of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality - and that means after the "cavity of spiritual vitality" has been filled up in the lower tan tien - then the middle tan tien begans creating the yin spirit as spirit vitality. This is not the same is being a ghost - obviously -- because it's very rare to fill up the cavity of spirit-vitality which does not even exist until the meditation practice begins. So the cavity of spirit-vitality - once filled - means the body is filled with chi electromagnetic energy and so already the person has "spiritual" powers. This is also why Master Nan, Huai-chin states it is very rare for a modern practitioner to actually get to the stage of immortal breathing as true Emptiness - why? Because the person gets "heroic overexuberance" because they get these powers developing and then they end up using them!! The powers are strong healing ability and telekinesis -- those are really the same thing - and also telepathy. So yeah I did develp those powers but then I used them! I even pulled this lady's spirit right out of the top of her head - and that was her GHOST spirit. haha. I mean I felt bad about it but I forgot that Chunyi Lin taught to never pull "energy blockages" out of the top center of someone's skull. She immediately bawled and kept bawling for at least 15 minutes - and I had never touched her!! Anyway so yeah as Master Nan, Huai-chin says if the powers are used at that stage then you have to reharmonize your energy again - because you have to rebuild your energy and also focus on the Emptiness more since the more you go into the Emptiness then the more powers you have. Actually Chunyi Lin says the practice can be summed up as one phrase - Use you consciousness to go into the Emptiness and keep it simple. haha. So the Emptiness means NO sexual thoughts -- and so what happens is that just talking about this stuff then makes the energy impure. But obviously so many people can not do this since their heart is not pure!! So then a real teacher will refuse to even talk about it. haha. That's why real energy masters are so rare. The other issue is that when building up the energy as chi energy then it makes the females go into heat. "Sighs of ecstasy" as Garrison Keiller stated on the NPR show last night - he is from Minnesota - but when he said that -- it is exactly what I have been referring to "orgasmic sighs" - that of course is NOT from me actually transmitting the energy. It's just the females picking up on the energy and then trying to suck it off. haha. So the issue here is that this energy is subconscious for people - and so if you do not PURIFY your thoughts then the pineal gland will have created postnatal generative fluid - and so that will cause a nocturnal emission or... I think the literal Chinese is "a mistake in the night." hahaha. So Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and immortality is very practical about this issue. Use physical restraint at the "gate of mortality" -- and then sublimate what is in the body. But if you study this the book says - it depends how much prenatal vitality has been lost from the emission. So that is the spirit-vitality energy of the lower tan tien -- and anyway -- so yeah the more advanced you are in practice then the more serious an emission is because that means more spirit-vitality is lost. Think about it! Qigong master Wang Liping says he does four hours of nonstop full lotus meditation every night!! Qigong master Yan Xin says his teacher at Shaolin also does meditation all night long - Yan Xin does full lotus and his teacher appeared to do the same. Is Haidan still alive? Probably not but anyway. Qigong master Chunyi Lin who trained at Shaolin - he also does several hours of full lotus every night. Qigong master Jim Nance does the same - three to five hours of nonstop full lotus yoga meditation every night. Qigong master Chunyi Lin said if you want to see if someone is a real master just see how long they can sit in full lotus in ease. So then I brought this up in regards to Master Nan, Huai-chin and then someone on the taobums said that Master Nan, Huai-chin was no longer sitting in full lotus very much. Well - he died soon after that - a few years later. Anyway so obviously the body has to be filled with chi energy FIRST before the real spirit-vitality energy can be used to "reinvigorate" the brain - to fully open the third eye. Oh yeah and on Friday night qigong master Jim Nance said that sitting in full lotus will purify your energy the best - it will purify your energy automatically! Qigong master Jim Nance then advocated using the "prayer mudra" with the hands held in front of the HEART - he said holding the hands in front of the heart while in full lotus while then transform every cell of your body. haha. This is why energy masters with the third eye fully open are so rare - because even if chi energy as spirit-vitality chi or yang chi is created - it will get used up first as other people will suck it up. hahaha. Yeah so people talk about how using your thoughts can then stop people from sucking up your energy - and I finally realize from the book Taoist Yoga that this is true - but only if the spirit vitality energy cavity has already been filled up so that the pineal gland energy is accessed directly. So then I can just consciously "flex" my pineal gland to stop the thoughts and I feel then immediately a focused magnetic force in the middle of my brain - and that is to stop the production of the post-natal generative fluid that would otherwise run down the center of the spine to turn into emission fluid. What is wild about this is it is direct experience but is still not proven by Western science - they just proved that females have their orgasm from the vagus nerve connection to the reproductive organ - in 2004. But so science has not proven the detailed connection of the pineal gland to the creation of emission fluid. But Taoist Yoga says that this is NOT the same as creating the alchemical pill - because you then have to convert the fluid back into negative jing energy and then convert the negative jing energy back into yin chi energy - which is positive jing energy as the dragon vitality. that process relies on the yang chi energy from the cavity of prenatal vitality in the center of the brain. So it is just a matter of continuing the process to then activate the "sea of chi" below the navel - that is the sea of yin chi that is stored up there as the potential energy that is then used up over the years through emissions - faster or slower depending on the person and how much energy they get from food, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gettodachopper69 Posted June 9, 2013 Okay so I wanted to share my phone healing experience with Jim Nance... Just a couple of notes, this was my 2nd healing, I have been doing QiGong for probably 4-5 months now inconsistently, meditating inconsistently for about a year and a half, have been celibate for about 23 days and have been really good about fasting from sexual thoughts over the past week. I did the phone sessions for general anxiety. The first phone session I did not really feel anything and here is what happened on my second session... Jim asked me about my anxiety issues and if its always apparent or if it comes and goes. I told him how it comes and goes and how meditation, QiGong and eating healthy help a lot with it. He said okay and said he wants to do some work right now so just told me to relax. I can tell how the phone goes in and out of static sounding to silence. The first five minutes I was not able to relax and did not feel anything, he asked me to walk him through what I was feeling and I said "not a whole lot, just trying to relax and clear my head", he said okay, just try to relax. Then two minutes later I just got a profound feeling of bliss and joy in my center (maybe heart chakra or something?) and the second after I felt that, he said "okay something just shifted now didn't it!" in a very laughing happy voice and I started laughing to and was actually trying hard to contain how much laughter I had. I said "yes it did, wow thats really cool." We talked for a bit more and he did another quick minute of healing and I am going to do more phone sessions with him but he said to watch what happens over the next week. After the phone I just kept laughing and am filled with bliss and joy about life with renewed energy. I am so absolutely convinced at how real this all is and how powerful it can be! I wish the feelings I am having would never leave but I know thats probably not realistic but it has showed me what I can aim for with my practice. Here is more on what it feels like: It honestly feels like I took some sort of happy drug and my outlook on life is just so rejuvenated and suddenly the trees in the backyard look beautiful even on this rainy day and all of my favorite songs are just so incredibly intense and inspiring. I am lucky that I know some good music that is able to keep up with how wonderful I feel right now. I have just about ZERO anxious thoughts, and if I do have a worrisome thought or fear, it lasts less than a second. I feel empowered to do good in this world and am confident that I will be able to accomplish all that I need to and help plenty of people along the way and just be a nice, kind and loving person in general. My whole center fluctuates with warmth rushes of happy love energy and I have been laughing sporadically throughout the day, sometimes for no reason at all except that I just feel so joyous and free!! The experience has been surreal for me! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 10, 2013 O.K. so I just got off the phone with qigong master Jim Nance again! haha. He called me to say that he just did a healing with the person who had contacted me on thetaobums recently and the healing went well and that the person would probably be contacting me. Sure enough I got a PM and so I asked the person to share his experience on the forum since testimonials help build the energy. But anyway let's just say he had an awesome experience! haha.O.K. so anyway I then talked to qigong master Jim Nance for probably another half hour! haha. He said that actually he was looking up black hole on the internet because he's never studied physics before and when he talked to me before he said that going into the Emptiness is like a dimensional portal - like a black hole. He said when he did the search he was getting back sites on healing energy. haha.Anyway so we talked about the science stuff and we are going to talk more about that later. But anyway what he says is that basically he is able to bring his spirit to his heart Emptiness and that this level is the fundamental level of reality and then once he makes that connection it enables him to then connect with the fundamental level of reality of any other object or living being, etc.Ummm.... so yeah I have read about how the qigong master body is filled with the yin spirit energy - and so they are recharging that all the time - like I said I saw this happening with Chunyi Lin. So my take on that is they are activating the spirit-vitality cavity to then access the yuanqi.So I mean if you use up your storage of life force energy that originally came from spirit -- and then it requires postnatal qi to restore -- but if you can build up the lower tan tien so that you can then open up the pineal gland - then you can also bring down -- you can just focus the pineal gland on the Emptiness to access the heart spirit energy. And so then you can recharge the spirit-vitality energy that way.ummm for example if I eat food to recharge my energy -- this is "dirty" qi energy because it comes from food which then has to be made into negative jing as bliss-heat and then into yin chi -- and then finally into yang chi like you say. But to make it into yang chi requires still bringing down some of the heart spirit energy - the fire - and so that requires the mind going into the Emptiness.O.K. so I was talking about this with Master Jim Nance - he said he was mentioning String Theory in the podcast I did with him -- I said how I had written an article on the science of spiritual healing but I had not even mentioned String Theory since that goes into all these other dimensions - but I said - you've actually experienced it! haha. He said that yeah if there is some scientist who can really do "string theory" then they would have to be keeping it a secret and he said - that's what I would do. I said yeah that's why you're the Master. haha.Anyway so we talked about how science is limited since it doesn't work with the mind consciousness - he said how science is actually a form of bondage due to the socialization process but that science is still a good thing at least in the context of socialization.so I asked Jim about how he mentioned the flash light -- how the light could be changed in focus or he could make it flutter or getting brighter, etc. and I said - were you talking about doing that to an actual flash light or with your mind? haha. He said with his mind - and I go yeah so I told him then about the scientists testing John Chang with the electrical voltage readers and the LED wires and how he had to ground himself through a person, etc. So we talked about this kind of stuff a bit.But anyway you ask if Chunyi Lin created a yang spirit then what happened to it?Ummm - if you read the book "Measuring Meditation" by Bodri and Nan - they talk about how this training of the Yang Spirit has different stages.So at first -- I mean you can access it at different stages - but at first it would just leave the body but not go very far and then go back into the body.Also like H.W.L. Poonja - Shri Poonjaji -- if you read the biography of him called "Nothing Ever Happens" by DAvid Godman - so when it was his birthday - he was expected at six different houses and he attended physically all six birthdays!! haha.But he did not know he did this until afterwards! So Master Nan and Bodri talk about this - because in the Emptiness things can happen but it's not "you" that does them. So that is the view of nondualism - advaita vedanta - but in Mahayana Buddhism that is not good enough.So in Mahayana Buddhism you have to develop the prajna to be consciously aware of what you are doing in the Emptiness but at the same time not be attached to the powers. So in that case you would have to be consciously aware you made the other physical bodies.O.K. so that is like -- consciously aware in spirit - but not consciously aware using the left brain ego.For example qigong master Jim Nance was saying the reason he began searching physics on the internet is because he uses his light energy - but that is not the same as someone's thoughts.So when he heals someone - everyone each has a different thought pattern but the light energy will access that immediately. So he said like the person he just healed - just today from thetaobums - the first time he did a phone healing with them at the Spring Forest Qigong Center - but he had not accessed that person's individual thought pattern yet and so they did not feel the energy at first.So today the person contacted me - and described how Jim just at first had to adjust -- or he tried it out a different way -- and so Jim told me that what is happening is that the light energy is then transferring it into the thought patterns.I actually experienced this when I had the cavity of spirit-vitality filled up with the yin chi energy and so my third eye was then opening up from the yang chi energy -- or yuanqi -- both I guess. But anyway so I had fasted for 8 days and I went into work on that Monday -- and this was right after the Level 3 retreat where I had seen the yin spirits.So I am in this room working and this female comes in and I felt this electromagnetic field of energy emanating out of the center of my brain - into the female - so that what was interesting was I felt like I could read her thoughts but what I really noticed is that the pineal gland was transducing her thoughts. In other words - thoughts are of course originally electromagnetic energy. So the pineal gland electromagnetic field was going into her brain and then it was "downloading" the information back into thoughts for me - it did this automatically.So that is a lower level of what qigong master Jim Nance is talking about.Yeah if you read the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" at the end it states how when you get this sign of the flowers falling in the sky and like snow -- umm that is the moment when the yang spirit is ready to leave the body - but you have to take advantage of that moment or else the yang spirit does not actually leave the body. So I think for now Chunyi Lin said how he had gotten to that stage back in 2000 - but my guess is he did not "take advantage" of it to create another yang spirit body. But earlier when he was in China he probably did that -- maybe he was doing less healing at the time or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 10, 2013 http://www.springforesthealingfest2013event.com/day_1.html?aff=4624 Spring Forest Qigong Healingfest podcasts! Qigong master Chunyi Lin talking about qigong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 11, 2013 http://www.springforesthealingfest2013event.com/day_1.html?aff=4624 Day 2 of the Spring Forest Qigong healingfest! Qigong master Chunyi Lin podcasts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 12, 2013 http://www.springforesthealingfest2013event.com/day_3.html?aff=4624 Day 3 of the Spring Forest Qigong healingfest! free podcast from qigong master Chunyi Lin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taiji_cat Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks,Pythagorean! I'm thinking of going back to SFQG so I wondered if you have any tips for people like me that overheat during practice. Which of the Active ex are you practicing. My favorite are the Moving of Y&Y followed by Breathing of the Universe :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 13, 2013 Thanks,Pythagorean! I'm thinking of going back to SFQG so I wondered if you have any tips for people like me that overheat during practice. Which of the Active ex are you practicing. My favorite are the Moving of Y&Y followed by Breathing of the Universe :-) hmm... if you want I can ask qigong master Jim Nance that question. Overheating.... maybe try storing the energy in the lower tan t'ien. Slowing down the breathing. I suppose obviously cool water - but I read about this Tai Chi master in Taiwan who won an award after his demonstration and someone gave him an ice coke and he slammed it and then he croaked because he scorched his lower tan t'ien too much. Yeah I know qigong master Jim Nance - we were in this restaurant back in 2005 and he told the waitress - no ice water please! Well I think bring the energy down the front should cool the energy. Yeah I just got the active exercise C.D. as I used to have the cassette back around 2000 but I gave it to my coworkers. So I do a half hour session and then some sitting and then maybe do another half hour session - like the 2nd half of the c.d. So I start with the moving of yin and yang and then it does the breathing of the universe and the rotating the ball -- whatever it's called. haha. So then the 2nd half is the Harmony of Heaven and Earth and the 7 steps of new life..... But mainly I do the "moving of yin and yang." So let me know if you want me to ask qigong master Jim Nance that question and I'll add it to my list of questions that people have submitted for him. thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taiji_cat Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) So I do a half hour session and then some sitting and then maybe do another half hour session - like the 2nd half of the c.d. So I start with the moving of yin and yang and then it does the breathing of the universe and the rotating the ball -- whatever it's called. haha. So then the 2nd half is the Harmony of Heaven and Earth and the 7 steps of new life..... But mainly I do the "moving of yin and yang." So let me know if you want me to ask qigong master Jim Nance that question and I'll add it to my list of questions that people have submitted for him. thanks! Haha I'm doing 1-1.5 hour session with at least 40 min Moving YY.I guess I was overdoing it. I think I have to split my session in two.Thanks for the tip Yeah you can ask him if doing Moving of YY for 60 min can be beneficial and is the overheating a good or a bad thing,should I avoid it.Thanks again Edited June 13, 2013 by taiji_cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 13, 2013 Joe Rogan has a new show coming out. Looks pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 13, 2013 Haha I'm doing 1-1.5 hour session with at least 40 min Moving YY.I guess I was overdoing it. I think I have to split my session in two.Thanks for the tip Yeah you can ask him if doing Moving of YY for 60 min can be beneficial and is the overheating a good or a bad thing,should I avoid it.Thanks again Are you feeling the heat in the lower tan t'ien mainly? Umm o.k. I will ask him - thanks! But yeah strong heat in the lower tan t'ien I think is to be expected.... I remember Chunyi Lin saying how when he was training -- his home town Guangdong gets super hot and humid - and so it was difficult in that sense.... But he calls Minnesota - the "Tibet of the U.S." haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 13, 2013 Joe Rogan has a new show coming out. Looks pretty cool. Yeah - you mean his new SciFi show? I tweeted him about having the qigong masters on it. haha. Joe still has his spirit energy stuck in his cavity of vitality -- it's a strong dopamine energy which is a good bliss -- but he tends to suck people's energy down -- like qigong master Jim Nance says he avoids swear words and sex - which, of course, is the exact opposite of Joe Rogan. haha. So I always have to empty out my Joe Rogan experience - I sit in full lotus while I listen of course but then I might have to wake myself up from a "evil" dream to then go back into more full lotus. But I am waiting - qigong master Jim Nance has a new website in the works for athletics -- and he is going to post his video testimonial from an IFC fighter that Jim Nance healed. haha. Qigong master Jim Nance is also working with some top volleyball athletes - like the national team, etc. hmmm...... So yeah his big interest is the initation process for athletes. Actually I had a dream last night where this dude was coming after me to "pump" me as the term used on JRE -- and so I stood the dude off in a martial arts fight and I ended up literally bashing the guys head in. umm -- I felt bad about it -you know that smashing watermelon sound of the skull smashing open. So anyway I do appreciate this aspect of the sublimation training that the JRE scene focuses on - and I know he definitely dabbles in the energy consciousness stuff - so I still think there is a possibility of this down the road. I do think Joe is a good guy - despite his $22 million net worth. hahaha. I mean -- the thing is that this energy training has such strict mind training standards -- it goes totally against JRE. I think words are one thing -but it's the electromagnetic intention behind them that is crucial - and I can read that about Joe.... he definitely activates the cavity of vitality that kind of sucks off people's energy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Ant Posted June 14, 2013 I'm quite sure that the heat you're experiencing while practicing Moving of Yin & Yang is pretty normal. I get very warm while practicing SFQ, especially certain exercises. For a while I was getting slightly nauseous when doing Breathing of the Universe but I continued and that subsided. I think feeling heat during Qigong is a good sign that qi is moving around, I often also some heat when having acupuncture. I don't think you have to be worry about overdoing it. I'd be interested to hear Master Nance's answer though. I was at Master Lin's seminar in Sydney last weekend and he's modified Seven Steps to New Life slightly. Now he's teaching to just stand still while doing the exercise. He says he's decided it's a better way to do it. I also remember Master Nance instructed it to be done this way in a recent Healing Connection podcast. I must say I prefer the new way, I'd always end up shuffling forward a fair bit with the previous way. all the best with your training Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 14, 2013 I'm quite sure that the heat you're experiencing while practicing Moving of Yin & Yang is pretty normal. I get very warm while practicing SFQ, especially certain exercises. For a while I was getting slightly nauseous when doing Breathing of the Universe but I continued and that subsided. I think feeling heat during Qigong is a good sign that qi is moving around, I often also some heat when having acupuncture. I don't think you have to be worry about overdoing it. I'd be interested to hear Master Nance's answer though. I was at Master Lin's seminar in Sydney last weekend and he's modified Seven Steps to New Life slightly. Now he's teaching to just stand still while doing the exercise. He says he's decided it's a better way to do it. I also remember Master Nance instructed it to be done this way in a recent Healing Connection podcast. I must say I prefer the new way, I'd always end up shuffling forward a fair bit with the previous way. all the best with your training So what was Master Lin's seminar like? Did you feel a lot of energy or see light or anything? Glad that you got to go! He said last night on his Guild podcast that there were 160 people there - pretty good turn out!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 14, 2013 Haha I'm doing 1-1.5 hour session with at least 40 min Moving YY.I guess I was overdoing it. I think I have to split my session in two.Thanks for the tip Yeah you can ask him if doing Moving of YY for 60 min can be beneficial and is the overheating a good or a bad thing,should I avoid it.Thanks again This is from the Taoist Yoga book - so this might work for you! The quick fire breathing is self explanatory -- quick reverse breathing up the spine.... If its from evil fire in the kidney and livers then practice quick fire breathing taught in chapter five. If it's fire in the heart from unwholesome food and drink then imagine a dark ball the size of a fist as taught in chapter seven. Hold the ball firmly and then use fresh air to drive it down to the lower tan t'ien and breath out to expel the inner fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant Posted June 15, 2013 So what was Master Lin's seminar like? Did you feel a lot of energy or see light or anything? Glad that you got to go! He said last night on his Guild podcast that there were 160 people there - pretty good turn out!! It was great, was great to meet other people who were both new and old to Qigong and SFQ. I felt pretty energised and refreshed during the meditations and throughout the weekend, certainly. And left with a lot of inspiration. He's a great speaker as well, very warm and down to earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 15, 2013 O.K. Podcast number 2 with Jim Nance has been recorded! I also recorded the Qi-talk. I'm now working to see about uploading to podmatic. I really enjoyed the conversation I had with Jim -- and then we meditated for probably over an hour - it was really awesome. So anyway.... This podcast is longer - about 1 hr 20 mns. -- so about twice as long! Plus the hour qi-talk which was also really amazing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) changed url! Here it is!! I edited the audio in a real crazy style - I had background computer humming noise - and Jim's voice was too low.... But with the edit you can hear him loud and clear but my voice is way distorted - which is fine with me!! There's more background distortion but less overall humming which was constant before..... Anyway enjoy!!!! Edited June 15, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites