The way it is for those who don't know

[deci belle]

About Me


Whether or not I forego conclusions
or shower you with heavy hearts
if I am here at all
It's not for approbation
it's not for polite discussion
it's not for the social repartee
not for friendship or camaraderie
nor for sharing understanding or exchanging ideas;
I offer no explanation or analysis of Complete Reality.

Having gone all the way myself
I only point at the source of impersonal awareness
so others will know it is the same as their own everyday mind
and that the matter of life and death is the crux of awareness;
long life and eternal vision must be discovered personally.

 

I have nothing to say to literalists, rationalists,

those entertaining recreational philosophy or

spiritual materialists practicing feng-shui'd lifestyles,
methodologists clinging to formal practices or
doctrines of religious, sexual or social convention~
except for extending the occasional bolt of ruthless compassion.

If you think you have thoroughgoing understanding of the wonder
I will reprove your understanding for you.
If I send it back, forget it;
you can be sure I do.

If there is a thing you consider not yourself
it is obvious you do not see the empty kalpa.
Even if you do see, the vertical must be dissolved
and leveled before you can make use of it.

 

 

 

ed note: add "spiritual materialists practicing feng-shui'd lifestyles" in third paragraph

Edited July 18, 2013 by deci belle

[Ohm-Nei]

Thank you

[deci belle]

haha!! You're welcome, I'm sure!!❤ Why such a dead-pan expression, hmmmmm Ohm-Nei?

[Cheshire Cat]

You should realize that there is someone who does not seek to know...

 

This is what an ancient zen master said about "knowing".

[deci belle]

The one you speak of is the one who knows not-knowing.

 

Do you seek this or do you know this?

 

Bodhidharma said, "Don't know".

 

I said about, oh, one day ago~ that this not knowing is to swallow the entirety of Complete Reality, neither being nor nonbeing.

 

You may be making a fine point, but do you really know this yourself?

 

 

 

Even if you do see, the vertical must be dissolved
and leveled before you can make use of it.

 

Do you also know this?

 

I don't mind talking about this with you, but let's please endeavor to pursue this on your own thread, ok?

 

Let's not get off-topic as this thread is about me and my working relationship with you.

 

Here I have laid down the ground-rules for bums who want to talk with me. I expect you to conduct yourself accordingly.❤

[Cheshire Cat]

The one you speak of is the one who knows not-knowing.

 

Not-knowing means nothing is not known...

Please consider that this matter cannot be explained that easily.

 

 

Let's not get off-topic as this thread is about me and my working relationship with you.

Edited July 17, 2013 by DAO rain TAO

[deci belle]

I said quite clearly that I offer no explanations, dear.

 

As for not-knowing, you do not know the first thing about it.

 

Fuck your zen-master. It is obvious your maturity on this subject is non-existent, otherwise you would not be pimping some chump you have never understood in the first place.

 

I know as well or better than anyone about there being absolutely nothing to know.

 

But you'd have to see your nature to ascertain THAT, and you haven't.

 

It's about me, yes. Evidently that's too much candor for one such as you?

 

Better get used to it…❤

 

 

 

 

ed note: spiced it up a bit

Edited July 16, 2013 by deci belle

[Cheshire Cat]

Fuck your zen-master. [...]

 

I know as well or better than anyone about there being absolutely nothing to know.

 

People nowadays take the immediate mirroring awareness to be the ultimate principle. This is why Xuansha said to people, 'Tell me, does it still exist in remote uninhabited places deep in the mountains?'

 

As for Not knowing

 

Sometimes when I question students, they all say they do not

know or understand; they just say they eat when hungry and

sleep when tired. What redemption is there in such talk? You

even say you are not cognizant of whether the month is long or

short, and do not care whether it is a leap year; whd understands

this affair of yours?

 

Now I ask you, how do you explain the logic of not knowing?

You hear others say this, so you say it yourselves; but have

you ever understood that principle of not knowing?

 

An ancient said, “Not knowing means nothing is not known,

nowhere not reached.” This is.called unknowing so that you people

today may reach that unknown state. This is the realm of

the sages —how could it be like the blindness and nonunderstanding

that people today call not knowing?

 

If you go on like this always declaring you don’t know and

are not concerned, how will you communicate if someone questions

you? There might be no one to continue on the road of

Zen! It Wfcm’t do to be like this. Make your choice carefully!

 

(Zen Master Foyan)

Edited July 17, 2013 by DAO rain TAO

[deci belle]

Redundant obedience from a position of superiority is humiliating.

 

Please consider yourself reproved and forgotten.

 

Only you can help yourself, cheri. Please forget it. I have.❤

[Cheshire Cat]

You think yourself greater than Foyan?

This is just splashing around in the ocean of Delusion, little child ...

[deci belle]

I bumped this for effilang.

 

Please don't complain. I don't comment about what or how you do on any threads you start, which is not only irrelevant to the topic, but terribly rude to boot, cheri…

 

We have nothing to discuss at this time, it seems.