johndoe2012 Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) . Edited August 18, 2013 by chris d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted June 15, 2013 Jeff Foster says...."what you are accepts everything that appears,...every thought, every sensation, every feeling, ....if it's appearing,...what you are has said yes to it." New Agers love that stuff. positive thought, senses, and feelings. And it is also a huge WHY, New Agers will not realize enlightenment. As Lao Tzu said, "Recognize that everything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth." Why did Lao Tzu have this contrary notion? "From beginningless time until now, all living beings have mistaken themselves for things and, having lost the original mind, are turned around by things." Buddha, Shurangama sutra Why did Buddha, supposedly an authentic enlightened guy, have a different notion of things han New Agers? "Existence really is an imperfect tense that never becomes a present." Friedrich Nietzsche Ah!....some philosophers seem to grasp the ridiculousness of uncovering truth through the senses, thinking, or feelings. Even some scientists felt the same way,...for example: Did not René Descartes say: “All that I have tried to understand to the present time has been affected by my senses; now I know that these senses are deceivers, and it is prudent to be distrustful after one has been deceived once.” Even Drummers have a clue,...listen to how many times the drummer in the below youtube says,...that one's HUMAN-NESS is the barrier to uncovering who you are. In other words,...you do not uncover who you are through thoughts, senses, and feelings of being present,...because thoughts, senses and feelings can NEVER be in the Present, Now, or Instant. Once more....it is IMPOSSIBLE for thoughts, senses or feelings to perceive the Present. The Present cannot be observed through faculties that can only perceive motion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Jeff Foster says...."what you are accepts everything that appears,...every thought, every sensation, every feeling, ....if it's appearing,...what you are has said yes to it." New Agers love that stuff. positive thought, senses, and feelings. And it is also a huge WHY, New Agers will not realize enlightenment. As Lao Tzu said, "Recognize that everything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth." Why did Lao Tzu have this contrary notion? "From beginningless time until now, all living beings have mistaken themselves for things and, having lost the original mind, are turned around by things." Buddha, Shurangama sutra Why did Buddha, supposedly an authentic enlightened guy, have a different notion of things han New Agers? "Existence really is an imperfect tense that never becomes a present." Friedrich Nietzsche Ah!....some philosophers seem to grasp the ridiculousness of uncovering truth through the senses, thinking, or feelings. Even some scientists felt the same way,...for example: Did not René Descartes say: “All that I have tried to understand to the present time has been affected by my senses; now I know that these senses are deceivers, and it is prudent to be distrustful after one has been deceived once.” Even Drummers have a clue,...listen to how many times the drummer in the below youtube says,...that one's HUMAN-NESS is the barrier to uncovering who you are. In other words,...you do not uncover who you are through thoughts, senses, and feelings of being present,...because thoughts, senses and feelings can NEVER be in the Present, Now, or Instant. Once more....it is IMPOSSIBLE for thoughts, senses or feelings to perceive the Present. The Present cannot be observed through faculties that can only perceive motion. You should really work with peyote... Edited June 15, 2013 by skydog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edward M Posted June 15, 2013 It doesn't mean accept and follow these thoughts, feelings etc.. it means accept them, because then they are not a problem and can be left in the past instead of lingering around and causing a constant battle within. It's considered that fighting/battling is a part of the egoic mind... so it makes sense not to fight thoughts and just accept they are there and let them go. Tibetan buddhist meditation stresses this point very strongly...... Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baiqi Posted June 15, 2013 Accepting is a key notion in many spiritual traditions, including Taoism. It has nothing to do with It is not the same as Tolerate something. You can, and should fight if something is wrong. However, you should also accept what is happening, at an emotional level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edward M Posted June 15, 2013 Agreed BaiQi, I was talking in relation to the subject at hand, mind stuff Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted June 15, 2013 Recognize ma bcos shes pa skad cig ma (or whatever you want to call it) versus the conceptualizing mind. Zen people do this by reading texts. Advaita people have satsang. Vajrayana people have direct introduction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
