curious Posted June 19, 2013 tired it using the technique described by wayson liao in his book, and I definitely felt a spark of vitality about an hour later, in both limbs and arms and it felt like I was bringing back some jing and like a pleasant internal massage of healthy life force  my questions are to anyone who may know  do you have to do considerable tai chi to tranform chi into jing as I have just begun, after my chi feeling quite low/perhaps blocked  does chi sometimes transform naturally into jing, have read before that chi, jing and shen, despite being described as different can interchange and kinda bleed into each other  is Gary Clyman condensing worth trying, saw a link on you tube earlier  has anyone suffered any ill effects from the condensing breathing, am just doing this to restore life force, as been feeling quite depleted for a while and wish to change, jobs, write, more and bring about more positive change in my life  is it just me or does treadmill cardio use up a lot of energy even if it's just interval walking speeds  are there any techniques to help with sexual desire, build up while, one retains the semen for jing cultivation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 19, 2013 The jing that you are referring to is "power". If you are already doing it bone by bone then continue that way until you've done every bone. After that then do the entire body. Clyman is ok. I don't promote him really. I promote Liao or an ordained Master of the Taichitao center. Will Clyman give you power? Yes. If you practice what's in Liaos classics and then buy Clymans stuff you might do better. I'm going through the classics again and I'm seeing things much differently now that I have experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 19, 2013 by every bone  what literally, like a finger bone, a thumb bone  what skeleton do you study in order to have a chance to do that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 19, 2013 by every bone what literally, like a finger bone, a thumb bone  what skeleton do you study in order to have a chance to do that ?  The spine is most important. Look up skeleton anatomy on google images. You don't have to do every bone but of you've started that way then you should see it through I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted June 19, 2013 The spine is most important. Look up skeleton anatomy on google images. You don't have to do every bone but of you've started that way then you should see it through I think. Â I personally prefer Gary Clyman's "streamlined" version to the classic version of condensing into every single bone. I tried both versions and the results seem to be superior if I suck into the five center lines (which equal the five bows of Taichi) of Clyman's version instead of sucking into every single bone of the body. I'm not sure if there is a point in sucking into the jaw bone, the ribs,... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 20, 2013 Dorian , I take it, you have to keep on cultiaving chi in order to have it, to convert to jing with the breathing, I know we have chi naturally like jing and shen but is it not true, that, if chi is low, we may be drawing off that to convert it into, jing, thus having power but not much juice in the engine  does that make any sense ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted June 20, 2013 Dorian , I take it, you have to keep on cultiaving chi in order to have it, to convert to jing with the breathing, I know we have chi naturally like jing and shen but is it not true, that, if chi is low, we may be drawing off that to convert it into, jing, thus having power but not much juice in the engine  does that make any sense ?  It does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 20, 2013 Dorian , I take it, you have to keep on cultiaving chi in order to have it, to convert to jing with the breathing, I know we have chi naturally like jing and shen but is it not true, that, if chi is low, we may be drawing off that to convert it into, jing, thus having power but not much juice in the engine does that make any sense ?  You need to cultivate qi with the flow of the yang form. Also, when you do suck qi into the bones you need to breath with the skin, sucking in qi outside your body. Like pore breathing but into the bones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 20, 2013 There are other ways to add qi besides the form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 20, 2013 well yes, have been drawing chi from the air when I tired condensed breathing and it has been quite effective but yesterday, seem to pull it by mistake from the dan tien and sure, I felt a loss there  yang form, not sure I have done that yet  so far, have only been using a made easy tai chi dvd( which has definitely helped a lot) by guy called Ian Fox  I noted Paul Lam has a 44 minute vid on you tube and have looked at Wayson Liao site but his dvds are quite pricey, though I would probably buy one but need I guess, a beginners one  I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 20, 2013 If you buy just 1 buy 8forms 6 components. It's a great qi promoting DVD. I can't link it on this phone or I would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) is that the full title ? Edited June 20, 2013 by curious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 20, 2013 I think the full title is  8 forms 6 essential components Google it with taichitaocenter and it should come up.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 20, 2013 Or for now just find a free YouTube vid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 21, 2013 is it in the beginner section of his dvds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 21, 2013 https://taichitaocenter.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 21, 2013 https://taichitaocenter.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=74 thanks so much dude, but it says advanced ? Â will that be too much for me to take in terms of chi ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 21, 2013 It's easy. Step by step. He explains when you should feel the qi, stuff like that. It's not advanced really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 21, 2013 ok, mate will give it a whirl come pay day, I take it the angles of the camera are well thought out so you can actually reproduce the forms, without getting confused Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted June 22, 2013 ok, mate will give it a whirl come pay day, I take it the angles of the camera are well thought out so you can actually reproduce the forms, without getting confused  And well lit. His vids are good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious Posted June 22, 2013 many thanks dude for your assistance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites