GrandTrinity Posted March 14, 2007 Whoa long article, whats the point and who is long rawn clark anyways? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumoessence Posted March 15, 2007 I am pretty sure that I recognize that as Mistele's writning. Bill  In fact I am absolutely sure  Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spyrelx Posted March 15, 2007 Thanks for the article. Two quick thoughts: Â 1. Part of his objection seems to be that he is caught up in what in these traditions would ultimately be considered and illusion that one should not be caught up in. That is, the "I" that wants to experience, manipulate and be conscious of the experiences it's having. J)ust look at how many times he uses "I" or says "I want", etc.). Â Â 2. I often wonder from certain early stories about chia whether he had some real power that was quite noticable and that would actually help individual students achieve certain results and progress in meditation. Most stories about the early days (and not just by HT instructors) indicate pretty rapid results -- results I rarely experienced in HT classes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites